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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4475 on: October 02, 2020, 10:48:50 PM »
1. Is there a way to get a useable 16mm equivalent field of view (FF) with the canon 10 - 18 @ 10mm with EOS M with Magic Lantern Raw? With the 1736x976 16:9 mode maybe?
- it's possible to shoot 24/25fps
- 1080 mode with 1.6x Crop + speedbooster & 10-18mm @13mm will give you 15mm FF Equivalent
- I've gotten usable footage with noise reduction @800 iso, but honestly with the M, it's no A7S, I'd just keep it at 100 ISO and let it do it's thing.
- Using the higher crop modes will perform worse in lowlight. Using a fast lens and speedbooster will help, as well as NR Software.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4476 on: October 03, 2020, 01:18:13 PM »
Sorry if I still don't get it -

You say "1920x1080 1x1 RAW" and "The only downside is the crop factor" - does this mean that the 1920x1080 RAW is still recorded with the Canon FW 3x feature already in the earleir ML vesrions, and then upscaled from 1728x1152 ?

I don't get what you don't get.  A "1920x1080 1x1 RAW" is a simple rectangular crop of the center part of the image sensor that has the size of 1920x1080 pixels, meaning that all 2073600 pixels in that area are sampled 1 by 1, as they are - no binning, no line skipping and no upscaling.  And this is the cropped image that you get, just in the same way as you would make in Photoshop a 1920x1080 crop of the center part of a still 18 Mp RAW image that you shot with your camera.  That's all.  In that way you preserve the RAW quality of your cropped image.   Cropping means that you do not use the entire sensor area but just a cropped part of it, meaning that you end up with a crop factor.  In this particular case, the crop factor is 5208 (the full sensor width of your 18 Mp camera), divided by 1920 (the width of your crop), multiplied by 1,61 (the crop factor of your camera vs. 35 mm full frame camera) which is 4,37.  This means that if you use a 10 mm lens with your camera, your field of view will be exactly the same as what you see in the view finder/screen of a full-frame camera with a 43,7 mm lens on it.  And that's a downside because you use just a fraction of the sensor area and cannot film wider than that unless you use a fish eye lens.

If you still don't get it, I don't know how to make it clear to you.  I am giving up, sorry.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4477 on: October 04, 2020, 03:22:15 PM »
i am aware that this might be stupid question, but...how do you guys focus in 5K anamorphic?
In 2.5K I can switch between framing and 5x zoom through Info button, but I wasn't able to replicate it in 5K. Is it even possible?

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4478 on: October 04, 2020, 03:38:10 PM »
Lately theBilalFakhouri accomplished just that. Real time preview plus zoom in preview while recording. I have the code so at some point I put it in.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4479 on: October 04, 2020, 03:46:41 PM »
Thank you for the clarification.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4480 on: October 04, 2020, 05:08:28 PM »
Stupid question but how do I update Magic Lantern, do I just copy over the new files to the SD Card and overwrite? Or do I have to do more than that? I'd rather not uninstall and reinstall if unnecessary. Thanks.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4481 on: October 04, 2020, 05:30:24 PM »
Stupid question but how do I update Magic Lantern, do I just copy over the new files to the SD Card and overwrite? Or do I have to do more than that? I'd rather not uninstall and reinstall if unnecessary. Thanks.

I simply delete the old files and copy the new ones directly from the ZIP archive into the root directory of the card.  Then I just activate the modules and adjust the settings that I need and that's it.  Never had a problem with this type of update.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4482 on: October 04, 2020, 06:18:16 PM »
Just overwriting files may cause unwanted side effects if there are incompatible settings or outdated modules. Better (as IDA_ML wrote) just rename/delete autoexec.bin and ML directory and copy extracted build contents to card. Overwriting ML-SETUP.FIR is optional, code hasn't changed for quite some time.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4483 on: October 04, 2020, 08:52:07 PM »
New test build:
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern_jip_hop_git/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Oct05.EOSM202_frtp.zip

Adresses 5K anamorphic frtp preset:

- Zooming with halfshutter while recording possible. While recording simply hald halfshutter for a zoom helping to nail focus easier while recording. Release button to get back to real time preview.

- This preset will work with HDMI out with correct real time preview. Didn´t test for corruption but seems stable on 700D. Zoom help disabled when in HDMI out.

- Fix for halfshutter causing cropmarks to disable and not come back. Should work now.

Bleeding edge tet build. Please report what works and if having issues. I look into it when I can.


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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4484 on: October 04, 2020, 09:59:21 PM »
Just overwriting files may cause unwanted side effects if there are incompatible settings or outdated modules. Better (as IDA_ML wrote) just rename/delete autoexec.bin and ML directory and copy extracted build contents to card. Overwriting ML-SETUP.FIR is optional, code hasn't changed for quite some time.
Alright, thank you.

I simply delete the old files and copy the new ones directly from the ZIP archive into the root directory of the card.  Then I just activate the modules and adjust the settings that I need and that's it.  Never had a problem with this type of update.
Thank you also.

New test build:
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern_jip_hop_git/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Oct04.EOSM202_frtp.zip

Adresses 5K anamorphic frtp preset:

- Zooming with halfshutter while recording possible. While recording simply hald halfshutter for a zoom helping to nail focus easier while recording. Release button to get back to real time preview.

- This preset will work with HDMI out with correct real time preview. Didn´t test for corruption but seems stable on 700D. Zoom help disabled when in HDMI out.

- Fix for halfshutter causing cropmarks to disable and not come back. Should work now.

Bleeding edge tet build. Please report what works and if having issues. I look into it when I can.
Thanks for the update, Danne!
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4485 on: October 04, 2020, 10:17:27 PM »
Since I often shoot 2-hour jazz concerts (usually with three EOS-M cameras, one of them with a C-mount zoom), there would be massive raw files to convert before editing, so I was hoping for something more direct...
You are only shooting 2 hours with 3 EOS M cameras. I would be using raw your case, where as I shoot with 4 cameras for 8 to 10 hours and that is when raw is too much data. In your case all you need is three 256gb SanDisk Extreme Pro cards, which will fill about 204GB on each card give or take, for 1080p Raw at 2 hours. Not bad at all. You are lucky. I wish I could use raw in my case. Run a test in raw and see how long you get until your card runs out, then do the calculations. It should be under 256gb for 2 hours @ 1080p.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4486 on: October 04, 2020, 10:47:40 PM »
I don't get what you don't get.  A "1920x1080 1x1 RAW"...(explanation) If you still don't get it, I don't know how to make it clear to you.  I am giving up, sorry.

Hi IDA_ML, its not just him, there's more people confused with the terminology used here, this is a canon eos-m thread and people keep using terms like "crop factor" for comparing with full frame sensor and then crop factor for recording video modes where only a croped area is used and people tend to get confused about what is what, i know this is for advanced users but people have to start somewhere.

I think everyone apreciates all the help/dedication/time that developers put on ML and still answer questions here...its priceless all the help given here but i think its normal for people to get confused with terms being used to describe 2 different things.

I know its a thread for advanced usage...just my 2 cents.


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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4487 on: October 04, 2020, 10:53:54 PM »
New test build:
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern_jip_hop_git/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Oct04.EOSM202_frtp.zip

Adresses 5K anamorphic frtp preset:

- Zooming with halfshutter while recording possible. While recording simply hald halfshutter for a zoom helping to nail focus easier while recording. Release button to get back to real time preview.

Bleeding edge tet build. Please report what works and if having issues. I look into it when I can.

Holy smoke that was quick  :o
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4488 on: October 04, 2020, 11:10:58 PM »
New test build:
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern_jip_hop_git/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Oct04.EOSM202_frtp.zip

Adresses 5K anamorphic frtp preset:

- Zooming with halfshutter while recording possible. While recording simply hald halfshutter for a zoom helping to nail focus easier while recording. Release button to get back to real time preview.
Bleeding edge tet build. Please report what works and if having issues. I look into it when I can.

OK, so zoom does work nicely, recording works in both full frame/zoom and alternating between the two. Unfortunately, when i try to replay record i get only blank screen and orange led blinking, after long wait metadata header (name+resolution+frame rate...) show up with frame counter increasing, but no video (only static image of other video on the card) i could go back to recording and when i try to replay for the second time, camera freezes completely (so, battery out). Every setting in default, only 5K anamorphic frtp chosen.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4489 on: October 04, 2020, 11:18:41 PM »
Uploaded a new build again.
THere will probably be some strangeness happening. Much stuff is new. I can play my files over here but I deleted any still images and started with a clean card som maybe that was what was needed. Do try the latest again.

https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern_jip_hop_git/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2020Oct05.EOSM202_frtp.zip

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4490 on: October 04, 2020, 11:28:02 PM »
I deleted everything from the card, loaded new version and now it works like a charm including replay.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4491 on: October 05, 2020, 03:48:11 AM »
Is there a way to change the word "Immortal"? I have 5 EOS M cameras and would like to label them.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4492 on: October 05, 2020, 06:44:32 AM »
Can we have the new zoom mode for 1080p also? I dont know if its just me but whenever i use the old magic zoom in 1080p mode, it takes around 3~5 seconds to get into it and get out of it. The new zoom mode in x5 anamorphic is super quick. So, i wonder of its possible to have that quick and real time zoom in 1080p mode as well?

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4493 on: October 05, 2020, 08:05:53 AM »
If you know or learn how to compile I tell you where to look. Hard and timely work.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4494 on: October 05, 2020, 10:32:49 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4495 on: October 05, 2020, 12:44:08 PM »
Can we have the new zoom mode for 1080p also? I dont know if its just me but whenever i use the old magic zoom in 1080p mode, it takes around 3~5 seconds to get into it and get out of it. The new zoom mode in x5 anamorphic is super quick. So, i wonder of its possible to have that quick and real time zoom in 1080p mode as well?

Yes, it's possible, I am planning to do it, a 1080p preset (1736x1158 3x3) which support Magic Zoom V2 (the new zoom mode), but, unfortunately . . not in near future.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4496 on: October 05, 2020, 12:59:15 PM »
TheBilalFakhouri and Danne (and all developers), you guys are doing great work. Thanks you so much for the new builds. It is really enjoying and it's making the Eos M a wonderful cinema camera for everybody with a budget. Thanks again!

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4497 on: October 05, 2020, 03:18:14 PM »
New build:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg208959#msg208959

- Crude attempt of a zoom function for mv1080p modes. Also for the higher frame rates 48fps etc.

Comes as is. To get it even better we need to alter too many regs for me to do atm.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4498 on: October 05, 2020, 10:16:46 PM »
Yes, it's possible, I am planning to do it, a 1080p preset (1736x1158 3x3) which support Magic Zoom V2 (the new zoom mode), but, unfortunately . . not in near future.
Thats Awesome. You never say no to any request. Keep up the hardwork you are doing for this camera

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #4499 on: October 05, 2020, 11:25:38 PM »
Thats Awesome. You never say no to any request. Keep up the hardwork you are doing for this camera
Then I humbly request 10-Bit H264 with FPS Override, Shutter Range, and Shutter Fine Tuning Support. For when you need to record for 10 hours on multiple cameras. I'm joking, btw. I don't believe that is even possible.
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