Canon EOS M

[mcgillro]

Hi

Does anyone know if this build works for the M5?  Thanks.  I'd like to use it for bracketing, but haven't used it for several years now, since I had the 600D.

[dfort]

Does anyone know if this build works for the M5?

Nope--it definitely doesn't work.

@12georgiadis - I also have a 5D3 and an EOSM and can tell you they are different cameras--very different.

I don't think any camera, not just the EOSM, can successfully do the H.264 proxy workflow the way you can do it with the 5D3. One reason may be that on the 5D3 you can record H.264 on the SD card while recording raw on the CF card.

Do you put your H264 settings in 0.1x ?

Not even that will do it though you're welcome to keep trying. If you can get it working please share your settings.

What are the risks to enable sd overcloacking ?

Global warming and the possibility of ruining your card.

Next month, I go to HK and I'd like to find a viltrox speedbooster EF-M to make some test in cropmode with the 11-22mm!

Let us know how it works out. I only tried one cheap ebay speedbooster for the EOSM and of course it was rather disappointing.

[mcgillro]

Thanks for the reply.

[12georgiadis]

I don't think any camera, not just the EOSM, can successfully do the H.264 proxy workflow the way you can do it with the 5D3. One reason may be that on the 5D3 you can record H.264 on the SD card while recording raw on the CF card.

Not even that will do it though you're welcome to keep trying. If you can get it working please share your settings.

Let us know how it works out. I only tried one cheap ebay speedbooster for the EOSM and of course it was rather disappointing.

Thanks Dfort. Tested with your settings and it works very well !! It's impressive and there isn't a lot of aliasing on most shots.
H264 proxy is not working. It is freezing. MOV is recording with sound but corrupted&frozen frame and MLV is 10ko. Maybe it can work with a 8...11bit script?
Can we record MV1080 in 8...11 ?
Cropmode possible in MV1080 ?
Sorry for the noob questions but it is very different from my 7D & 5D3 settings !

[Lanza]

Hi !
What is the best resolution to have the maximum image quality with the less aliasing possible : 1736x1120 (1:2) or 1736x976 (16/9) ?
Also i hesitate between Danne's builds : Nightly.2018Aug07.EOSM202_mv1080p
And
Nightly.2018Jul03.EOSM202_mv1080p

It seems the Jully version does not allow the 1736x976 ?

Any help would be very welcome !
Thanks a lot.

[Danne]

You can record mv1080p continuous with 14bit lossless(16:9, 24 fps) with sd_uhs module set. You find the setting in crop rec section. Regular RAW video(mv720p will not work with this build):
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/magiclantern-Nightly.2018Aug07.EOSM202_mv1080p.zip

[12georgiadis]

OK thank you Danne. For now, I'll stick to MV1080, that's the best result for regular shooting !

[Danne]

Only way to get mv1080 is with the build above but I assume that is what you are using right now? Otherwise you are shooting mv720p even when mv1080p is selected in canon menu.

[12georgiadis]

Danne,
yes I'm using this build with 1080MV.
What I'm looking for is something that doesn't seem to work :
1) 1080MV with cropmode & normal to shoot without aliasing and to extend focal lenght possibilities.
2) 1080MV with cropmode + Lossless 8...11bits + H264 Proxy+sound for a similar 5D3 workflow
3) or maybe 1X3  is a possible solution to shoot smaller than HD rez but without aliasing ? I suppose it's not for now because of the development

[Danne]

Just exit crop rec and enable movie crop mode for 1920x1080p 3x zoom mode. Working with all bits.

[theBilalFakhouri]

@12georgiadis

1-Like what Danne said.
2-H.264 doesn't work for all cameras except for 5D3, If you enable it you will have corrupted frames in both MLV and H.264 Especially with lossless compression.
3-It's working but with very wide aspect ratio 1736x386. We are trying to increase the resolution.. nothing interesting yet to make it under preset.

[12georgiadis]

Thank you Danne & theBilalFakhouri for the update infos !!

[norek]

Hi!

I try Danne build (Nightly.2018Aug07.EOSM202_mv1080p), but always freez the lcd when I focusing in the canon live view and ML view too. Globaldraw always on, preview set Real-time. The jul03 build is work fine with same settings.

what do i do wrong? 

thanks.

[Lanza]

 you must be in MF , AF doesn't work with mv1080p i think . At least with the 2 builds i tried .

Anyway i'll stick with danne's Nightly.2018Aug07.EOSM202_mv1080p . It allows some great quality footage in 1736x976 16/9 , and for the tricky shots with aliasing i found i can get rid of it with Mlv app .
So far so good !

[norek]

you must be in MF , AF doesn't work with mv1080p i think . At least with the 2 builds i tried .

Anyway i'll stick with danne's Nightly.2018Aug07.EOSM202_mv1080p . It allows some great quality footage in 1736x976 16/9 , and for the tricky shots with aliasing i found i can get rid of it with Mlv app .
So far so good !

thanxs your's reply

[theBilalFakhouri]

Trying to get 1x3 Binning with increased resolution with Danne:

"I got 1736x2184 using adtg_gui without problems (resized to 1736x728). When enabling preset in mv720 it offer 1736x2084 resized to 1736x694 . Of course this for EOS M maybe you should tweak something in raw.c like you did before to get max resolution. But hey it's 1x3 Binning .

Here is a compiled version: Download.

Here is the settings:

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case CROP_PRESET_3x3_mv1080_EOSM:
    cmos_new[7] = 0x260;   
    cmos_new[8] = 0x400;   
                break;


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case CROP_PRESET_3x3_mv1080_EOSM:
    adtg_new[0] = (struct adtg_new) {6, 0x800C, 0};
adtg_new[1] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8172, 0x9fd};
adtg_new[2] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8173, 0x453};
adtg_new[3] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8178, 0x9fd};
adtg_new[4] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8179, 0x453};
adtg_new[5] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8196, 0x12e};
adtg_new[6] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x8197, 0x38c};
adtg_new[7] = (struct adtg_new) {2, 0x82b6, 0x9f4};
break;


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static inline uint32_t reg_override_mv1080_eosm(uint32_t reg, uint32_t old_val)
{
    switch (reg)
    {
        /* raw resolution (end line/column) */
        /* X: (3072+140)/8 + 0x17, adjusted for 3072 in raw_rec */
        case 0xC0F06804: return 0x8a601d4; // 2520x1386  x5 Mode;

        case 0xC0F06014: return 0x9df;
case 0xC0F0600c: return 0x20f020f;
case 0xC0F06008: return 0x20f020f;
case 0xC0F06010: return 0x20f;

case 0xC0F37014: return 0xe;

        case 0xC0F0713c: return 0x8a7;
case 0xC0F07150: return 0x46a;


The settings is a mix between mv1080 for EOS M and 1x3 Binning."

Unfortunately the resolution hasn't increased it stays 1736x1120, in 700D as I said I can get up to 1736x2084 in mv720. So what is the limit for the resolution here? Before it was from raw.c when we tried to get mv1080, But now? 1x3 Binning is working but when hit recording at above settings in EOS M we have a jumping frames it seems like corrupted in 700D it's working without probelms.

When Danne tried different values in raw.c:
"Good catch with the exception. Unfortunately I am getting corruption as soon as going over 1150 the same as when filming mv1080p."

What the problem can be here?

[Teamsleepkid]

thanks bila. been messing around with it. does seem like 1x3 is working if you set canon menu to 720p you get live view. but its about a 5x crop it feels like. doesn't appear to have any aliasing though. i have no idea what I'm doing though just playing around. i almost bricked my camera yesterday. hit a button while formatting and it was unresponsive. somehow got it back working. close call.

[theBilalFakhouri]

@Teamsleepkid

Unfortunately it doesn't work yet in EOS M. corrupted frames in above settings.

[BSimo]

You mean you dumped your other cameras and kept the EOSM?

Ahah, yes but not because of ML on EOSM! [emoji6]

[Tullen]

Just interested in the different crop factors for current recording capabilities?

[whothe]

So I played arround with the liveview in MV1080 and stumbled uppon this little trick:

When in MV1080 and using Realtime Liveview you get a more accurate, fluid representation by using "Anamorphic 9:5" and "DigitalPanning".
However the framing, although better, is still not properly centered and is missing info on the top and bottom.

Not sure if this helps, but maybe there is a way to fix the liveview this way?
Although Im optimistic there is a way to make it work properly... at least in 16:9... but I wouldnt know where to start.

Here some comparisons:



Streched Realtime liveview




Correct framing but slow liveview




Anamorphic9:5 and DigitalPanning Method




Recording is not affected




Settings
...

Hope this is helpfull in any way.
Cheers!

[tung1323]

is there a read me or instruction on which model this ML is for?
is this only for M1?
i was not sure if M is general for m1, m2, m3, m5, m6, m10, and m100.

[Walter Schulz]

This thread is for Canon EOS M (without suffix).
Top of page -> Downloads -> Download Nightly Builds -> Your cam is not listed? -> Last item. M100 runs PowerShot firmware, too.

[dfort]

When in MV1080 and using Realtime Liveview you get a more accurate, fluid representation by using "Anamorphic 9:5" and "DigitalPanning".
However the framing, although better, is still not properly centered and is missing info on the top and bottom.

Not quite following you. The Anamorphic 9:5 setting is under the Display menu but where's DigitalPanning? I'm not seeing a big improvement in preview performance just by turning on Anamorphic 9:5.

[whothe]

Not quite following you. The Anamorphic 9:5 setting is under the Display menu but where's DigitalPanning? I'm not seeing a big improvement in preview performance just by turning on Anamorphic 9:5.

Right!
The quality of the improvement is debatable.
I meant: In my opinion this method offered the best trade-off between the correctly framed but laggy "Framing" live view (selectable in the raw menu) and the fluid but very stretched "Realtime" live view (selectable in the raw menu).

The effect of the describe settings are:
Anamorphic 9:5=Elimination of the stretching of the real-time liveview

Digital Panning (in the advanced Raw settings)= pushing the liveview upwards a tiny bit towards (although far from) center framing

Sorry for my inaccurate post before.
I hope this is not confusing things even more.

Although center framing in real-time liveview would help even more in getting a sens of what I am recording,  I preferred the non-stretched liveview over the stretched... even with the cutoff framing...