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Walter Schulz

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #700 on: April 27, 2016, 06:41:42 AM »
Or is it already in the nightly builds (could not find it in the changeset informations)?
According to link this one was merged into main (= nightly build) April, 10th. All builds since contain it.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #701 on: April 27, 2016, 07:28:25 PM »
I don't get it.  You guys had issues with a pink frames bug on a 2015 nightly build.  Why didn't you just update to a 2016 build?  Sorry, I just got a 5D3 after using ML on a 6D for one year.  I'm fairly new lol. 

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #702 on: April 27, 2016, 10:37:11 PM »
According to link this one was merged into main (= nightly build) April, 10th. All builds since contain it.

I checked all nightly updates after this date but couldn't find any mlv_rec changes in the changeset informations :)

Walter Schulz

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #703 on: April 28, 2016, 07:17:19 AM »
Sorry to read that.
Search gives 9 matches, however.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #704 on: April 29, 2016, 03:27:53 AM »
Sorry to read that.
Search gives 9 matches, however.

Oh, maybe I didn't search it right. I looked at downloads->chose 5d3-113-> looked at older builds after 04-10->changesets and looked trough "files changed". Where did you find it?

Walter Schulz

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #705 on: April 29, 2016, 08:20:54 AM »
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/
-> 5D3.113
-> Changes (Top left)
-> Use browser's find function (STRG-F on Windows) to look for mlv_rec
or (to restrict search)
-> mark change lists 401-403. Copy-paste to your editor of choice (Notepad++ here) and ask editor to count.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #706 on: May 01, 2016, 03:10:00 AM »
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/
-> 5D3.113
-> Changes (Top left)
-> Use browser's find function (STRG-F on Windows) to look for mlv_rec
or (to restrict search)
-> mark change lists 401-403. Copy-paste to your editor of choice (Notepad++ here) and ask editor to count.

Thank you Walter Schulz!



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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #707 on: May 01, 2016, 03:56:39 PM »
Hi guys

Just 2 quick question to you all:
I have had ML on my 550D for years, loved it.
I now want to install ML on my 5D mrk3. Im going to downgrade firmware to 1.1.3 and have an attempt at installing.


Q1:
I get the impression that the 5D mrk3 installation is a little more complex than the 550D installation, anyone got a good link to step-by-step installation? Im getting lost in a wealth of discussions and methods. (Im looking at you Walter Schultz)

Q2:
Having little knowledge of code and the inner workings, should I stay away from RAW filming? It would massively help my video productions.


Cheers in-advance, I can imagine rookies like me are a pain in the arse.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #708 on: May 01, 2016, 10:13:32 PM »
Q2: You don't need to know code to use raw. You need:
1 - a fast CF card
2 - a lot of hard drive space
3 - a decent computer
4 - time and motivation to learn a new post-process (one of several described on this site)

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #709 on: May 02, 2016, 08:00:32 AM »
Q1:
I get the impression that the 5D mrk3 installation is a little more complex than the 550D installation,

Not at all. Installation is painless providing you've already downgraded your firmware to v1.1.3 through EOS Utility. That's the only bit that's different. Full instructions here:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14460.msg140355#msg140355

Q2:
Having little knowledge of code and the inner workings, should I stay away from RAW filming? It would massively help my video productions.

No coding necessary. V1.1.3 on 5D III running ML is solid in my experience, however if you're unsure of whether to shoot in RAW I'd urge you to take a look at a recent RAW vs h.264 video comparison that I did. IMHO as long as you take care in exposing and use a non-sharpened picture style when recording, the h.264 results can almost be indistinguishable from RAW in most situations:


Personally I'm going to shoot h.264 now for the main part and use RAW for when a project is "special" or for certain clips that I know that I'm going to want to push-in in post as the workflow speed / storage / machine requirements are a fraction of what they are with h.264 but without sacrificing any perceivable image quality in isolation. At least not to my eyes.  ;)

All the best,

Mark.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #710 on: May 02, 2016, 07:06:40 PM »
For those wondering about where the fix is with the nightlies, it was fixed in the April 11th 2016 build for 113 (see point 4)
https://builds.magiclantern.fm/jenkins/job/5D3.113/394/

@a1ex - I've got a gig coming up this week where I need to run my Atomos for backup (i.e. I need clean HDMI). Can I just copy the mlv_rec from the fixed 113 build and use that with the latest 123 build? Or is there a new 123 nightly in the works which addresses the pink frame bug?

Thnx

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #711 on: May 02, 2016, 07:35:38 PM »
I'm not trying to boost my own bug here but I believe this is MLV Pink frame related. I was just wondering if anyone has seen this. I couldnt find it in my searches. See this link in bitbucket:
Issue 2527 https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/issues/2527/mlv-bad-frame-3-2-5d-mark-iii-4-28-2016

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #712 on: May 03, 2016, 01:45:40 AM »
Cheers @markodarko and @Frank7D for your time.

Just wondering if theres any definitive reason for choosing ML 1.2.3 version over 1.1.3?
I keep seeing warnings saying that 1.1.3 is more stable?

Ive managed to downgrade my firmware to 1.1.3 but not sure whether its a wise choice?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers in advance

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #713 on: May 06, 2016, 02:48:44 PM »
Can someone tell me how to turn off this annoying beep sound? A year ago it was enabled only for the rec button. And now I hear it when I press ISO and hulf shutter buttons. Can it be as it was a year ago?

Thanx.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #714 on: May 06, 2016, 03:06:32 PM »

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #715 on: May 30, 2016, 10:21:56 AM »
I have been off forum for a while - has there been any progress with identifying the source of pink glitches and whether it has been solved?

I have downgraded to the old 2014 version and that works flawlessly so far.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #716 on: May 30, 2016, 05:38:12 PM »
I have been off forum for a while - has there been any progress with identifying the source of pink glitches and whether it has been solved?

I have downgraded to the old 2014 version and that works flawlessly so far.

We discovered it was the debug logging in the mlv_rec module that was causing it. It's been disabled in 1.1.3 since April 10th I think. There's still no 1.2.3 build that doesn't glitch post August 2014.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #717 on: June 23, 2016, 05:25:21 PM »
Hi guys, I'm back again.
Some weeks ago I downgraded from 1.2.3 to 1.1.3 to have the fix for pink frames. (Btw, italian users on ML Italia user group on facebook keep asking for the fix for 1.2.3 version. @a1ex, since 1.2.3 version is not updated since last year, is there any chance to see a new nightly in a short time?)

Now I wanna talk about two issues I've found using 1.1.3 16 May nightly.

1st. Highlight clipping as you can read in this thread. I posted there more info.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=16401.0

2nd. With 1.1.3 fw I can't see desqueezing on an external lilliput monitor. Is it normal for 1.1.3 or not? I'd like to know if it should work on 1.2.3 version before I upgrade all to try out.

Thanks

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #718 on: June 25, 2016, 03:09:06 AM »
@anDyIII

Come stai, per utilizare il Liliput, debi instalare la versione 1.2.3.
Ciao!

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #719 on: June 25, 2016, 05:17:26 PM »
@budafilms

I'm fine, thanks.
1.2.3 fw just gives you mirroring and clean out, but global draw works exactly like on 1.1.3 with my lilliput monitor. Today I had some spare time to test this out.
It seems like anamorphic desqueeze doesn't work at the same level of global draw and so it won't be output through hdmi.

Here are two images showing how camera and lilliput monitors disply with 1.2.3 version of ML. Desqueeze is applied in camera.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ex09qil61j2kv37/Camera%20Monitor%20with%20desqueeze.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugt9a9l56er99gt/Lilliput%20monitor%20global%20draw.jpg?dl=0

Is there any way to make desqueeze visible through hdmi on both 1.1.3 and 1.2.3?

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #720 on: June 26, 2016, 09:32:05 AM »
@anDyIII

Andy, only in 1.2.3 you get this features from Canon:
- clean HDMI out
- dual monitor support

In my experience, 1.1.3 is faster, more stable, fewer death pixels, but you don't have - for the firmware - that features.
You have to use 1.1.3 for the pink frames? Maybe, you can try Raw (1) and no MLV RAW.


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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #721 on: June 26, 2016, 10:27:56 AM »
I know that those features are available only on 1.2.3 and that's what I said.
I'm just saying that I can't ouput anamorphic desqueeze together with global draw on both 1.1.3 and 1.2.3.

I don't have pink frames anymore with 1.1.3, just highlight clipping depending on MLV viewer/converter.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #722 on: June 26, 2016, 10:45:39 AM »
@anDyIII try this: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzJ3L6nv6Fn0ZHhSUTdCRVNSWG8
You'll get an error message because the pink frames fix module is from a 1.1.3 build, but apart from that it works ok for me.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #723 on: June 26, 2016, 10:55:12 AM »
@squig

Thanks, but maybe I can't explain myself.
I don't have any pink frames, just highlight clipping in some cases, which is a different thing.
And I can't output anamorphic desqueeze through hdmi, even with Force HDMI-VGA as a1ex suggested in another thread. Another user has the same problem.

Btw, I also submitted a pull request with the pink frames fix for 1.2.3 last night, and now I'm still testing the fix from a personally compiled build for 1.2.3.

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Re: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III
« Reply #724 on: June 26, 2016, 11:36:45 AM »
If you use the build and post workflow I've suggested you shouldn't have any problems. Just convert your CDNG files to ProRes4444 in After Effects and you can edit and grade in whatever application you prefer.