Author Topic: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording  (Read 163265 times)

bass1012dash

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2013, 02:07:25 PM »
It's $640 at B&H. Seems to be the same speed as the Lexar, probably just rebadged. There's been mention of 64Gb cards being faster than 128Gb cards.

What they print, and what their actual speed is are not always the same.

reason I'm leaning toward delkin - they come from a cinema lineage, meaning their write speeds may not be marked up as they expect to be used for video.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2013, 10:23:55 PM »
A lot of CF cards have been tested already: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471.msg37692#msg37692

As you can see in A1ex graph (which is not up to date), the Delkin cards habitually underperform.  In my testing, I have found the Delkin 1000x to be >40MB/s slower than Lexar 1000x and >20MB/s slower than SanDisk Extreme Pro CF cards.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 01:34:05 AM »
A lot of CF cards have been tested already: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5471.msg37692#msg37692

As you can see in A1ex graph (which is not up to date), the Delkin cards habitually underperform.  In my testing, I have found the Delkin 1000x to be >40MB/s slower than Lexar 1000x and >20MB/s slower than SanDisk Extreme Pro CF cards.

great link, exactly what I was looking for. thank you!

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2013, 04:59:56 PM »
Ive tested 16gig Lexar 1000x cards, two of them actually and they both are only able to reach 77MB/s So went back to the store to test the 32gig &64gig Lexar and they both reached 92MB/s
So if your planing on buying 16gig cards don't they wont crack 1080.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2013, 05:21:11 PM »
16GB Sandisk 600x
Have had no issues. Since the first time I put it in my 5d3 I'm able to get a steady recording of 1080p with ZERO dropped frames. Buffer doesn't blink more than one star.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2013, 03:39:03 AM »
I got approximately the following speeds in benchmark tests.

Komputer Bay 1000x 128GB: 73 MB/s write
 
Lexar 1000x 32GB: 92 MB/s write

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2013, 06:48:20 PM »
Just tested RAW video recording on a 32GB Delkin 1000x UDMA 7 Card and only got max write speeds of 40mb/s. The print on it says its supposed to be up to 80mb/s. I'm pretty disappointed in this card. Will be returning it tomorrow.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2013, 08:43:06 PM »
Transcend 1000X 128GB - 85-90MB/s, consistently 10-15MB/s faster than my fastest Komputerbay 1000x 128GB cards, which topped out around 74-75MB/s. My Lexar 1000x 64GB card is still my fastest card clocking in at 97-102MB/s.

John-Jo

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2013, 01:46:52 AM »
I want to try and shoot RAW 1080p video on my 5D Mark III, unfortunately i don't have a 1000x CF Card, so i was looking forward to purchasing one or two, i too came across Komputerbay cards, unfortunately these cards are not available in my country (India), i checked everywhere, on eBay.com people who are selling these cards have 'Asia' in excluded countries for shipping. Currently i see they are available in abundance in US only. If you guys come across a shop selling those cards with International Shipping to India, please let me know.

Me too. Amazon wont ship them to New Zealand either. Have contacted Amazon to see if they will ship to nz.
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Benchmark/Experiences with Sub-1000x card speeds
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2013, 09:07:55 PM »
I know this is kind of off-topic, but I am wondering if there exists a thread dealing with CF card benchmarks/experiences/testing (@speeds below 1000x)?
I have been following the ML forums for a long time (daily since the RAW breakthrough) and I have not been able to locate the desired information.
I am the happy owner of a 5D mkIII (after owning alot of canon and non-canon DSLR)
I am keen to experiment with RAW video, but for now, I cannot justify the expense of the 1000x cards (I invested in Transcend 400x and Lexar 800x Just before the RAW breakthough).
I would however, love to play around and hopefully contribute to testing of workflows and sharing of experiences.
As a videographer, I do abstract/experimental/narrative work and thus, I don't need continuous RAW recording to get going (anything between ~15sec and a few minutes would do just fine).
Long story short, I am looking for information pertaining to the maximum recording time in widescreen and cinema-scope @ 1920/24fps with various card speeds.
My apologies if I have overlooked this information on the forum as I for one find the endless "contamination" of threads with information already covered a distraction if not a nuisance in trying to keep up with all the relevant threads.
And again, thanks to everyone involved in this great initiative!
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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2013, 11:05:16 PM »
Any longterm experiences with the Transcend 1000x 128GB?
Seems to be a pretty decent performer @ 1080p... Is it keeping the speed until the card is filled up?
How far can one push the resolution with this one?

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2013, 10:26:22 PM »
Transcend 128Gb 1000x is very slow. I've got 2 of them and none is faster than 68-70Mb/s write. Impossible to record decent raw files. I'm very disappointed, it's a waste of money, no more than 5% faster than 70% cheaper cards.

Steven

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2013, 08:20:06 PM »
Does it at least work for 1:2,35 cinemascope?

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2013, 07:07:16 AM »
Well, I don't know if it is the card or the firmware at the date that had a problem, but I was able to record this video here with Transcend 128GB 1000x:


It was recorded at 1920x1152px. After I turned the camera off, then I wasn't able anymore to record anything past 3 seconds, at any resolution.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2013, 04:19:41 PM »
Maybe... the System has changed the card slot.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2013, 06:47:10 AM »
Great information!

They use ssd technology in them which helps to achieve super fast writing and reading speeds.

SSD stands for solid state drive, which basically means a storage device with no moving parts.  This describes all memory cards - just a friendly FYI from a forum newbie.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2013, 05:58:03 AM »
It's really disheartening to know that I'm going to have to gamble with Komputerbay cards until I get one that writes above 100mbs. Ideally I'd keep playing until I got one that peaked at 120mbs.

Has Komputerbay or any of the other manufacturers been able to sort out what exactly causes the differences in write speeds?

The moment someone comes along and provides a card that GUARANTEES good write speeds I will be violently throwing my money in their faces.

I'm willing to pay decent change to get a guaranteed good write speed.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2013, 08:52:53 AM »
Has Komputerbay or any of the other manufacturers been able to sort out what exactly causes the differences in write speeds?

As for Komputerbay I don't think they would care. There is a reason why they are much cheaper than the rest of the brands....

The big name brands seem to be really close to me.
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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2013, 10:41:31 AM »
Me too. Amazon wont ship them to New Zealand either. Have contacted Amazon to see if they will ship to nz.

Yea have tossed up whether to send one to my brother in oz and have him send it over but the risk that it wont work is too great. Cant imagine trying to send it back for a second or third one. Went for a Lexar 32gb instead, got it for half the trademe price. Goes hard.
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anchoricex

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2013, 04:52:06 PM »
As for Komputerbay I don't think they would care. There is a reason why they are much cheaper than the rest of the brands....

The big name brands seem to be really close to me.

That stinks because if I'm not mistaken the lottery-winner Komputerbays are scoring highest in write speeds. There *needs* to be a card that guarantees these write speeds, even if they cost an arm and a leg.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2013, 05:07:36 PM »
Kinda, but you also have Toshiba 1055X.

It also doesn't seem to last. Reading around here and on different forums cards are losing these speeds after a short amount of time/stress and they are also going corrupt or just plain dead.

Some people are also going through 2 or 3 cards to get 1 good one. Others are lucky and get a good one right off the bat. I wouldn't touch them if one was free but thats just me.

There are reliable cards out there but they're expensive and only equally as fast. IMO are best option is what is under devolopment by the DEVs or a hardware option (SSD)
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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2013, 07:53:19 PM »
Kinda, but you also have Toshiba 1055X.

It also doesn't seem to last. Reading around here and on different forums cards are losing these speeds after a short amount of time/stress and they are also going corrupt or just plain dead.

Some people are also going through 2 or 3 cards to get 1 good one. Others are lucky and get a good one right off the bat. I wouldn't touch them if one was free but thats just me.

There are reliable cards out there but they're expensive and only equally as fast. IMO are best option is what is under devolopment by the DEVs or a hardware option (SSD)

I haven't seen any recent developments for hardware options. I hope I'm mistaken, but didn't that idea end up getting floored due to some impassable obstacles?

Believe me I would love to have some sort of SSD that could mount underneath my camera.

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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2013, 01:48:35 AM »
My komputerbay 128gig 1050x udma 7arrived today, promptly tested it! And unfortunately IT DID NOT WORK.

Cannot be formated by 2 cameras, 5d2 and 7d. cant be recognized by my PC as well.

I have a proven Lexar 1000x 32 gig for several weeks now and never failed me.

I wanted to try this out since there is one reviewer here in ML that tried it.

So I filled out my return form and sent it back.


edit: in touch with their tech support to find what caused problem and find solution. See my posts below for updates.
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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2013, 07:46:22 PM »
I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.

5D3:

1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames
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Re: Supported 1000x CF cards for continuous RAW recording
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2013, 07:54:43 PM »
I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.

5D3:

1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames

 Since when did you buy the 5D3? Much better than the 6D in terms of raw video...