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Started by nanomad, March 19, 2014, 08:37:15 PM
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Quote from: gary2013 on March 21, 2014, 03:54:52 PMI agree. Why would anyone not share and give back to the parent?
Quote from: 1% on March 21, 2014, 06:41:35 PMBut yes, all, this is not your problem. you just want camera software.
Quote from: 1% on March 21, 2014, 06:41:35 PMOn top of that the implication FEELS like throw out your work and cease to exist.
Quote from: 1% on March 21, 2014, 06:41:35 PMAnyways, these are/were my motivations. I just don't feel good about any of the hostility or schism from what essentially is my first real coding project and mostly a thankless labor of love. At the same time I don't like letting ML down and pissing off A1ex to the point he wants to quit. So everything seems like its burning and I feel like shit and there you go.
Quote from: simulacro on March 28, 2014, 12:57:32 PMCan please anyone tell 50d TL users where is their thread?
QuoteThe topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you
Quote from: simulacro on March 28, 2014, 01:22:24 PMMaybe I'm losing something
QuoteUgh? Seems to be divided in to user classes, /me as a big important hero member can access it. Just write enough forum posts (or probably donate and become a contributor) and you'll be elevated to our godly level :-p
Quote from: nanomad on March 19, 2014, 08:37:15 PMI'm a user, what does this mean for me?Tragic Lantern usage and discussion will no longer be accepted on this forum. Please continue discussion about the Magic Lantern ports in these threads: 50D, 7D, EOS-M, 6D, 600D.
Quote from: Andy600 on March 27, 2014, 02:38:27 PMTo all 50D Tragic Lantern users.First, thank you all for contributing to this thread, one of the biggest on the forum. I'm sure, like me, you learned a few things here but apologies to new 50D users who might have found it difficult to find answers among the 180+ pages.I am now locking this thread ahead of the changes being introduced to the forum. You can read what, why and how these changes affect things here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11080 I completely understand the reasons behind the coming changes but I want to add a personal thank you to 1% for maintaining this third-party mod, bringing features to the 50D and other cameras that may not have made it to the main Magic Lantern builds. As I have always pointed out, I only compile the code that 1% commits to his Bitbucket repository. The 'Tragic Lantern for the 50D' builds are derived from the code maintained by the main developers (a1ex, g3gg0 and others) but tweaked, pushed and pulled by 1% for the 50D. I personally have never experienced any major issues with Tragic Lantern on the 50D (and originally on the 600D) but, as I point out when notifying you of new builds, Tragic Lantern does not have all the built-in safety fallbacks of Magic Lantern and there is always the potential for irreversible damage to be caused to your camera.So, third party modifications are no longer being supported in the forum which means we can no longer discuss Tragic Lantern. I will continue to upload TL builds to my Bitbucket repository for the foreseeable future but I suggest 50D TL users begin the transition to using Magic Lantern nightlies http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ as the builds I upload will not be supported in any way. Questions about Tragic Lantern will be met with silence and may even result in a ban from the forum so you have been warned. If you choose to download and use a Tragic Lantern build you do so on the strict understanding that you cannot ask for support on this forum! As suggested in the thread linked to in the first line of this post, it would be helpful to the developers for users to provide bug reports for Tragic Lantern here: https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/issues?status=new&status=open. To report or request 'missing features' that may be in Tragic Lantern but not in the Nightly builds please use this topic: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10593.0To discuss Magic Lantern 50D builds please use this topic: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9852.0Thanks for your understanding!Topic locked by Andy600
Quote from: Marsu42 on March 28, 2014, 01:12:46 PMRead the first post of this thread or look here directly: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=58.0
Quote from: simulacro on March 28, 2014, 04:25:41 PMWith all respect: You are banning the TL efforts the same way Canon would with you.The TL threads were part of the ML forum for some time and now they disappeared? Why not let them visible but closed?
Quote from: Genscher on March 28, 2014, 05:21:23 PMI totally agree.
Quote1%, the maintainer of Tragic Lantern, and other users, are free to fork and do whatever they wish with the project.
Quote from: nanomad on March 28, 2014, 05:49:27 PMAlso, 1% is doing an amazing job lately by providing new features and suggestions to ML. Sure, they may take a bit longer to merge but I'm quite confident that with the help of the community pointing out the differences between TL and ML this split will soon be a thing of the past. I just want to restate that the only TL discussions not allowed on this forum are those regarding support matters of said fork. You are incouraged to discuss key differences or missing features all you want provided it's a constructive discussion and that it's done in the proper sections and threads.
Quote from: Audionut on March 28, 2014, 05:40:40 PMhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CollaborationTragic Lantern was a one way process. The Magic Lantern developers were developing ML, and Tragic Lantern was taking these developments from ML, and developing features of it's own.However, TL was not sharing these developments, back with ML. Taking, taking, taking, and not giving anything back.This is not how open source collaboration works. ML is a development project first and foremost. We, as users, are gifted these developments, by the developers.During the discussion regarding these recent changes, suggestions where made, to have TL run on it's own website. TL users are more then welcome to do as they see fit.However, TL discussion cannot be supported on this forum. If anyone bothers to read the OP, and consider the circumstances, beyond their own personal needs, the reasons why this decision has been made, should be abundantly clear.
Quote from: johnhenryrupe on March 28, 2014, 06:01:09 PMSooooo is Tragic Lantern taking taking taking, or providing new features??
Quote from: Audionut on March 28, 2014, 05:40:40 PMTragic Lantern was a one way process. The Magic Lantern developers were developing ML, and Tragic Lantern was taking these developments from ML, and developing features of it's own.However, TL was not sharing these developments, back with ML. Taking, taking, taking, and not giving anything back.
Quote from: gary2013 on March 28, 2014, 06:02:23 PMwell, if that is true, then let us talk with 1%. I am concerned that he told me he can now fix the EOSM to have a headphone output. Then all this stuff started here and we can't get what was wanted by many loyal forum users, like myself, who have asked for this and waited patiently.
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