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a1ex

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #675 on: May 03, 2019, 12:56:01 PM »
I agree, things could be a lot better. What I mean is that reddeercity did not actively take steps towards hiding the source code. Rather, I believe he just had some difficulties getting started with Mercurial.

TLDR - yes, it's not the preferred way of sharing things, but I don't see it as a GPL violation.

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #676 on: May 03, 2019, 01:01:43 PM »
TLDR - yes, it's not the preferred way of sharing things, but I don't see it as a GPL violation.
That's a good thing though.
I would label it communication breakdown. Leaning towards either getting this cam myself and do all presets or take active measures to stay off this topic completely(no threat intended)  8).

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #677 on: May 03, 2019, 01:05:55 PM »
No need, my plan is to make crop_rec fully generic on all models (arbitrary resolutions, binning factors and frame rates, within the sensor readout speed limits).

That is, I'm going to use the current code (preset-based) only as documentation.

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #678 on: May 03, 2019, 01:17:16 PM »
Didn't see that one coming. Looking forward to this coded artwork.

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #679 on: May 03, 2019, 01:30:21 PM »
Ah.....thanks a1ex.

I did check back through several pages, hence the merged duplicate posts, and I did check the OP, but it was a speed-read of the OP.  No apologies though, because.....

One could have taken the high road and simply linked to the correct current source, everything sorted.  Pats on the back, apologies.  I mean, you could even link to the current source, and still take a jab at the lack of reading skills of the participants of the conversation.

.......the op got what he was after!

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #680 on: May 03, 2019, 10:30:23 PM »
Ugh.. That was the "coming of gods" time... So, i just wanna say to @banertop, that my 1x1 on h264 is absolutely distorted, but not with lines... It was absolutely wrecked.
I do not know if this will be any use in this thread but anyway just in case.




Video from phone (sorry for shaky footage):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rwb-UcuOI658NBkzb3biFNm-PGJScFrk/view?usp=sharing

Footage from camera:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Lye4j21sme_KfOt8bBoIVQy-tIphahHT

Also, my 5d2 started to have some problems with turning on, I don't know if it's related to the ML build:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vGMVn1rD5uO7QnOF6xHv0GOPU8Zh7h1f/view?usp=sharing

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #681 on: May 03, 2019, 11:38:48 PM »
@Igor_Braun
Dont be sad about 1:1 mode.....it is really not worth it.....just an interesting idea, to shoot h264 in crop mode :)

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #682 on: May 04, 2019, 01:49:34 AM »
@banertop, Yeah... And as i said, it was very very useful on my previous 650d when shooting some kind of events

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #683 on: May 04, 2019, 04:05:43 PM »
I tested the new crop module and at the beginning I thought everything was great, no stripes or anything and I can change the Shutterspeed as I want, but ... later i see "sometimes" (not everytime or always) false greenish blacklevel for some sec.
Yes, I record ALL in manuel mode and i have testet the 1/48 shuterspeed too -> same resultat

Btw. if i set shuterspeed to 1/33, it set to 1/26 -> good for low light

Here a short testfootage, no correction, F11,3, iso 100, 1/48, 10bit (112 black, 1013 white), temp. 5800 -> false blacklevel here at the beginning :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n11skw92t0fo6et/M04-1357.mov?dl=0

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #684 on: May 04, 2019, 09:40:20 PM »
By the way, i can confirm that, i have the same thing that Bender@arsch has

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #686 on: May 06, 2019, 07:59:23 PM »
See first post in this thread.
5D2.212 | EOSM.202

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #687 on: May 06, 2019, 09:23:04 PM »
ok, i forgot it that the 1 is in the first post, sorry but i can't see 30 only 24 25. this image shows 30


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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #688 on: May 07, 2019, 08:23:38 AM »
Change PAL/NTSC region in camera.
EOS R

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #689 on: May 07, 2019, 05:31:14 PM »
#kitor Thanks will try when i coming home! it worked thanks!


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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #690 on: May 12, 2019, 06:26:34 AM »
 @a1ex yes, you're exactly right .

 Just pick up a cheap 50d body from my local camera store with 90 day warranty  :D
when I have time I want to build on @aprofiti early work & porting 3k/UHD crop_rec to 50d
Code: [Select]
Report : Canon EOS Digital INFO - v1.4 - CANON EDSDK v2.14
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Camera Product Name : Canon EOS 50D
Serial Number : XXXXXXXXXXX
Firmware Version : 1.0.3
Shutter Counter : 21006
Battery Level : Battery Level : 80%
Camera Date/Time : Saturday, May 11, 2019 , 11:48:43 PM
Still need to be updated to firm 1.09v , only has 21k shutter activations
Very good shape , just like new almost , $300 cad ($225 usd) .

So I'm wondering now after all that did I waste my time getting this 50D ?
Is the drama over now , can I get back to work ?

FYI , I have always known that a1ex was going to make a generic crop_crop for all cams
but I couldn't wait that long , and this thread is the result of the effort .

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #691 on: May 12, 2019, 09:03:27 PM »
well guys,

after some testing, i can say that 2.6k build is the best thing ever happened to 5d2!!!

More useful than anything before -......very filmic, nice resolution, very nice aspect ratio, not so terrible crop with lens like sigma 18-35....

For now, only con is aliasing

5d2 is finally so close to be a true film camera....

BUT....is it possible to deal with aliasing and moire problem? In other crop modes there is no aliasing issues

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #692 on: May 13, 2019, 05:08:32 AM »
BUT....is it possible to deal with aliasing and moire problem?
show me please , upload a dng or short mlv file .
It can't happen in 5x zoom , because you are in true 1:1 pixel so there no pixel binding or line skipping .
If I open up the horizontal & vertical to the maximum (5632x3752) which is = to the full res cr2
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=19336.msg205622#msg205622

I have canon "L" lens and I never seen aliasing and moire pattern in crop_rec ,
I use my EF 24-70 f2.8L at 24 in crop_mode and no issue .

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #693 on: May 13, 2019, 06:13:52 AM »
ran a adtg_gui log in 1080 mode & 5x zoom mode on the 50d
Looks almost like the 5d2 exactly , just different cmos numbers
shouldn't be too hard to get this in the D4/5D2 crop_rec code .
50D-adtg_gui_1080mode.log
50D-adtg_gui_5xZoom.log

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #694 on: May 13, 2019, 12:59:22 PM »

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #695 on: May 13, 2019, 11:55:32 PM »
No a original dng & or a short mlv file , all  I see is bad h264 compression (blocky) & hi ISO noise 

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #696 on: May 14, 2019, 02:14:58 AM »
Got some interesting results from the 50D today with adtg_gui



4640x1078 M13-1935_00001.png
4640x1078 M13-1935_00000.dng
Short 11 second h264 clip 4640x1078_8fps-M13-1935.mov

The only real differences I found was sensor pinning is done by CMOS[4] instead of CMOS[2] on 5D2


in 5x zoom default = 0x484 ,  to center the image to the right decrease the second valve (0x424)
I could have move the image a little more to the right in the 4640 test but I have only 1 battery so time is limited
and I wanted to get as much done as possible before battery dies .
So that's close to the maximum horizontal resolution of 4752

I did notice with the mlv's the write speed was 83MB/s , very nice more then 5d2 (75MB/s)
less overhead in the 50d . and with the faster sensor speed 28Mhz I think the 50D
will get a higher resolution then 5D2. But time will tell .



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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #697 on: May 14, 2019, 02:34:57 AM »
Some old notes which can come in handy on horizontal and vertical, plus a spreadsheet of the initial analysis.

Cmos[5] may be responsible of vertical crop area position; expected full-res up to 7 FPS compared to 5 FPS 5d2, due to faster clock speed.

Haven't tried yet to increase vertical resolution and reduce to minimum timing, because I'm currently experimenting in other areas.
I expect to see some interesting results from you, reeddercity. Good luck! :)

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #698 on: May 14, 2019, 07:16:47 AM »
Yes that's right cmos[5] does the vertical offset , tried to increase vertical to 1200 , got it close but can't find the right vertical offset 
have to do it by trial & error and that eat up battery time .

On a happier note , the 50D is a beast ! without trying too hard
I could get 3200x1080 @ 23.965fps (battery running low so I stopped , did have it close to 25fps at times)
Thinking I my get close to UHD(3840) or 3520 with the 50D , thou the vertical is a different story , but the future looks bright for the 50D
So don't sell your 50D yet it my be one of the best for crop_rec.

Here are some test images & H264 files

50D_3200x1080_23.965fps_M14-0016_00001.png
50D_3200x1080_23.965fps-M14-0016_00000.dng
50D_3200x1080_23.965fps_M14-0016.mov

 

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Re: 3K/UHD 5D2 Raw development and Other Digic IV Cams
« Reply #699 on: May 15, 2019, 08:08:01 AM »
Looks like I found the horizontal limited @ 23.976fps



I can get about 7 seconds (177 frames) write speed needed is 115MB/s , I get 75-80MB/s .
But I'm really liken this APS-C small (22.3×14.9 mm 4752×3168 ) sensor image , very clean & sharp  :D

Some more samples images & h264 clip

50D-3744x1080_23.976fps-M15-0046_00001.png
50D-3744x1080_23.976fps-M15-0046_00001.dng

Left hand side has a 200w incandescent light bulb - cam setting 100 ISO , 1/27th shutter, f8 24mm , crop factor 2.0 =48mm (Canon EF24-70mmf2.8L)
Has great dynamic range .

50D-3744x1080_23.976fps-M15-0046_00154.png
50D-3744x1080_23.976fps-M15-0046_00154.dng

h264 clip,  7seconds 50D-3744x1080_23.976fps-M15-0046.mov

So after this test I think I should be able to get 3200x1300 @ 23.976fps being I'm at 3744x1080 right now .
I may look at getting another 50D ( they're dirt cheap) at this rate , if I can get CF card over clocking working. :)