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Walter Schulz

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[ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« on: March 02, 2015, 09:24:08 PM »
In other news: Since late January ML is able to record +30 minutes without frames loss/drop at 29:59. You don't even need to set "Movie Restart ON". Just press the button and record as long as you like and battery/card's memory size*/temperature limit allows.

* = Today's build enables MLV recording to exceed 40 GByte.

H.264 is still hampered by hardcoded 29:59 limit and is therefore not able to pass this border without frame loss.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2015, 01:26:52 AM »

Sweet  8)

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2015, 07:17:51 AM »
Cool!!!!
(And Ice for the camera)  :P

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[ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2015, 07:56:23 AM »
It may also be killer for the 5D3...

Hence the reason why there's a 30 minute limit to keep it from overheating.

But when shooting RAW -- the camera is actually not working as much as it would normally while shooting h.264 (compression takes work!) and indeed an icepack may help a bit but it also cause mold inside out from moist.

It ain't RED, if not better!?

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2015, 08:11:26 AM »
You're wrong about the main reason for this limitation. It's connected to the price tag because video cameras will be taxed in a different (more expensive) way. And  everything able to record up to 30 minutes is not a video camera by definition.
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/0794343949/wto-looking-at-moves-to-remove-30-minute-limit-from-digital-cameras

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2015, 08:22:20 AM »
I second that, Walter, which reminds me of what most of my teachers say during my Cinematography studies in college back then... "They came up with this Laws to better control the market for cameras with longer recording times consider more profession as oppose to consumer friendly 30 minute limit." which sounds kind of lame to me IMO, perhaps they should lift that up a little with the ITA?

Is that right, buddy?

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2015, 09:00:03 AM »
Sorry, I won't try to fight legal stuff and economics with reason.
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[ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2015, 09:13:21 AM »
Wasn't trying to initiate an argument.

and I understand your reason so Never mind then.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 05:02:07 PM »
And another one! Props to the devs!!!

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2015, 11:57:40 PM »
In other news: Since late January ML is able to record +30 minutes without frames loss/drop at 29:59:59. You don't even need to set "Movie Restart ON". Just press the button and record as long as you like and battery/card's memory

Does this mean you now longer need to use the sticky shutter workaround to hinder live view auto power off?

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2015, 12:15:07 AM »
For external recording? I'm afraid it does not: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14638.0

EDIT: Seamless HDMI/USB recording implemented in experimental builds for some time.
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2015, 04:10:14 AM »
I ment for mlv recording. I had some troubleshooting with this  a while back when testing out cont. recording on 256gb cards. Longer than 30min mlv's without sticky shutter work around would be great ☺.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2015, 05:12:48 AM »
That's why I posted this:
No workaround needed.
Not a single frame lost.
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2015, 06:33:30 AM »
Great work, thanks!

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2015, 09:26:16 PM »
Ummm . . . 50D ?

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2015, 12:33:52 AM »
And the question is?
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2015, 03:50:44 AM »
And the question is?

 . . . larger files than 4GB on FAT32? . . .Is eXFAT enabled on the 50D? Heat is a big issue with 50D. I have not been able to do 30 min continuous in RAW.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2015, 05:22:16 AM »
. . . larger files than 4GB on FAT32? . . .
Just impossible.

Is eXFAT enabled on the 50D?
No.

Heat is a big issue with 50D. I have not been able to do 30 min continuous in RAW.

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record as long as you like and battery/card's memory size*/temperature limit allows.
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(And Ice for the camera)  :P
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2015, 01:27:37 AM »
Just impossible.
No.
And 2nd reply

Well, It was a nice dream.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2015, 03:34:58 AM »
Astrophotographers mod their cameras with cooling all the time. There are plenty of solutions out there for that.

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2015, 08:58:18 AM »
Astrophotographers mod their cameras with cooling all the time. There are plenty of solutions out there for that.

I had an idea last summer for a shoot (I live in South Florida) to cool my 50D by insulating it with a rain protector then encasing the bottom in dry ice. A little extreme but never actually tried it. Although, I think it would have done the trick to keep the camera cool. . . or it would have petrified the camera solid. :P

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2015, 09:12:23 AM »
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2015, 05:23:59 PM »
The problem with heat on 50d persist if an external battery is used?

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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2015, 05:42:04 PM »
It will help a bit but it won't solve the problem, I'm afraid.
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Re: [ALREADY DONE] Seamless RAW/MLV recording +30 minutes
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2015, 02:55:47 PM »
Does 30+ min recordings work on the 5d3 firmware 123 with the newly released nightly?