Tragic Lantern for 6D

[kgv5]

haha! Good find! Doubt the camera would write any faster though even if you did use that.

Not faster for sure but there would be an option to have much more data storage.

[noisyboy]

Not faster for sure but there would be an option to have much more data storage.

Very true! Just ordered one

[teo770]

About SD to S-ata adaptator...

Faster perhaps not in burst but perhaps a SSD would have write access times lower than SD cards... who knows.
And price for a 256GB SSD is lower thant fast 256GB  SD card !

I'm not for this solution.... made of wires out of the cam and scotch/taped.... burk !
I know 1% wants to explore the grip way, much better solution IF the usb wirering inside is fast enough.

Even if we had the same speed of actual SD slot.... would add another SD card slot in the grip for example and guess what ?
Canon 6D + 2 SD card slots..... i'm pretty sure ML would figure out how to write on both so we would have 2x35MB/s !
After, 1st frame on internal SD card, second frame on grip SD card.... and so on.... audio....

Why not ?

Wouldn't be surprised that "gigabit lan" interface in the WFT-E7 Wireless File Transmitter is wired with a kind of USB to LAN
interface.... Would be a bad news....

[noisyboy]

I'm not for this solution.... made of wires out of the cam and scotch/taped.... burk !
I know 1% wants to explore the grip way, much better solution IF the usb wirering inside is fast enough.

Yeah - no doubt! I'm just fastinated about whether it can be made to work

[1%]

Its great we have one of those adapters. Unfortunately SD isn't like CF. CF is pretty much IDE so its plug and play. SD is a different serial interface. Don't know if there is any kind of SD to IDE adapter, I haven't seen one.

The recovery commit won't do us much good I think... the double buffer is using a 6MB chunk. Next chunk is ~30MB, next smallest is 2MB.

[noisyboy]

Its great we have one of those adapters. Unfortunately SD isn't like CF. CF is pretty much IDE so its plug and play. SD is a different serial interface. Don't know if there is any kind of SD to IDE adapter, I haven't seen one.

The recovery commit won't do us much good I think... the double buffer is using a 6MB chunk. Next chunk is ~30MB, next smallest is 2MB.

Potty Ah well - I'm just stoked to  use what I already have anyway now so whatever else you manage to get is a bonus for me!

Thought you can pretty much stuff an SD car into an IDE cable? Sure I saw that somewhere once?pretty sure its possible and that the sd connectors line up like half way down the IDE connection.

[noisyboy]

I bet i could use that adapter i ordered and snip the end off then solder it 1 to 1 with the SD socket on this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SD-SDHC-Secure-Digital-MMC-to-SATA-Converter-Adapter-/171028513929 or I could get two cables and make like a male to male SD cable.

[1%]

That adapter goes the wrong way.

Lots of SD card to IDE/SATA but no sata/IDE to sd card. Male to male not going to work.

[teo770]

Noisyboy, soldering something to the cable i talked earlier was neer a joke.

The cable itself would help but we first need a female S-ata device which can deal btw a S-ata on 1 side and SDcard on the other side... It's not simple... Perhaps a external hardrive with a SDcard slot like a card ripper but i remember my last one, tried with a SSD in it.... damned slow !

It's because of his design. Mainly, the card reader part in built like a USB reader and interfaced to the S-ATA disk...
I never saw another kind of design.

Perhaps the need of more memory will leads ML to disable any photo features in C2m mode (for example)...
I mean, while recording video in C2m ... noone needs photo ability. Can we disable photo features ONLY in C2m... that's the question.

[1%]

Or disable all photo features in video mode in general. I tried some memory hacking last night and to resize the resource manager... just got corrupted screen.

[noisyboy]

Okay - so basically the connection would run the wrong way? Think I see what you are sayin'.  Basically I thought it would be a case of connecting the 9 pins on the SD to corrisponding pins on the SSD as my limited understanding was that SSD basically behaves like SD. You dudes are clearly more clued up on this though so I'll take your word for it. Certainly not gonna let it stop me having a bloody good go at something though

[noisyboy]

Found the page I was talking about with SD-IDE and looks like I had it wrong *slaps forhead*

http://hackaday.com/2006/09/12/floppy-connector-mmc-card-slot/

Just gonna slowly walk away from this conversation and forget it ever happened

[DTSET123]

Imagine if we could record to this via wifi in your backpack: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/WD+-+My+Net+N900+802.11a/b/g/n+Dual-Band+Wireless+Router+with+Built-In+2TB+Hard+Drive/5720675.p?id=1218686490710&skuId=5720675&st=hard%20drive%20wireless&cp=1&lp=2

too bad 6d wifi is slow and cant stream video

[teo770]

And the car battery to power it up in ur backpack !

[DTSET123]

there are other ones much smaller and with built in batteries. What Im trying to figure out if you can record to these hard drives or they are just for streaming 

I think you could, this dude just copied files from ipad (5:25) to the hard drive so it goes both ways- right? http://www.esorun.com/wireless-hard-drive/49-wireless-external-hard-drive.html

[teo770]

I'm going to try a simple thing, got a Wifi dongle on a PC, will try to transfer from the 6D, to check the speed.

[DTSET123]

I think 1% said it is around 15-30

[RenatoPhoto]

And the car battery to power it up in ur backpack !

LOL but.. also needed to run the cam in RAW video mode.

[teo770]

Tethered wifi N using EOS utility.
Liveview is 10-15 fps i think.
When shooting a burst of 5 jpeg S2 (2.5MB each), transfering is rather SLOW...

Transfering a single RAW (22.2MB) => 11 seconds

Wifi will be a hard option. Imagine, while testing RAW video, i m pleased to have 2 batteries cause LV consumes a lot of power,
add wifi function to that... even the grip + 2 batts will be... for real short shooting !

The real good surprise would be that the USB port in the 6D also acts as USB Host.... who knows ?
1%, you think testing this would be riscky for my 6D ?
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Cable-Adaptateur-USB-A-Femelle-vers-Mini-B-USB-Male-/280784513642?pt=FR_C%C3%A2bles_adaptateurs_audio&hash=item41600faa6a

(to plug a usb key for example)

[sparedog]

Or disable all photo features in video mode in general. I tried some memory hacking last night and to resize the resource manager... just got corrupted screen.

I think this is a good idea. switch to photo mode for photos, video mode for raw video. its easy and if it enables full frame raw video, that would be worth the trouble

[noisyboy]

Haven't updated modules or bin for a few days as I'm away but have of course read about playing back raw in camera. So is this true - you can now view raw previews or have I read wrong? Probably another bold idea but just wondered - do you think it's possible at all to run this playback through a LUT in camera?

My bad! Just realized I posted this in the wrong thread! Eek!

[1%]

The adapter is worth a try but not sure if USB hdds work on that port or if there is host mode... I guess you'd have to power the HDD externally and try it. Its only like $2

The playback is only for the last raw.

[kgv5]

Or disable all photo features in video mode in general. I tried some memory hacking last night and to resize the resource manager... just got corrupted screen.

Yeah, I would like to try, I bought my 6D mainly for video.
We were discussing such thing before - maybe it would be possible to have ML in two versions on two different cards - first the one we have now - photo + video, second - everything disabled besides RAW video. It would be interesting...

[1%]

There needs to be a way to do it without switching versions... I shoot photos then shoot video then photos again. Seems possible, just needs research.

[DTSET123]

Yeah, I would like to try, I bought my 6D mainly for video.

should have gone with 5dm3 for camera A. Moire is so bad on wide angle that I never use it. I use 6d as camera B and only 35mm and up. Speaking of moire, I read an article http://www.eoshd.com/content/10450/2-5k-cinemascope-anamorphic-raw-on-the-5d-mark-iii where this guy is saying that there is no moire with raw cause it scans all 1080 lines and it is not skipping anything.  He was talking about 5d but if that was the case then in theory 6d would also have no issues. Is he right about 1080 TV lines I wonder or am I mixing things up cause I still have bad moire...