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Hi Guys,

thx to your good tips, I am working on a project with mlvfs and Dokan for the first time

I am in windows 10 pro, working with Davinci Resolve right now.

Clips are 1080p 25fps (NO dual iso)
My camera is the 5dmk3

I have succesfully imported all the clips (about 50 files) into davinci but the problem now is that playback is really slow, it stutters and it's not possible to work this way

Surprinsingly, when I deliver (render) one of these clips, rendering speed is quite good (40fps minimum with DNxHD)

EDIT: now playback in timeline is smooth and that's the most important thing. The problem is when I play the clips in the "media" section.

Would you have some tips?

Thank you. Cheers.

thanks dmilligan

kind as usual 

I'll download it and install

Hi guys,

I am in windows 10

I actually use Pismo and convert mlv files directly in davinci resolve. Is really smooth.

But Resolve did not recognized audio and video linked so I spent hours relinking audio and video together

Is there a solution? (newer version, or a different software than Pismo)?

Thank you. Cheers.

Now I get it:

pismo is mounting the system and the mlvf.dll is "doing" the conversion
The mlvf.dll has the same settings as in fuse

Thank you for your answer ;-)

Hi,

I tried the webdav solution but when I click "map" I get the error 53 "unable to connect"
I am on windows 10 pro

Then I tried Pismo and it works fluently but I have a doubt: is the color conversion reliable? I recall @Andy600 saying that mlvfs is reliable but I don't know anything about pismo

Cheers. Carlo

Hi all,

I'd like to cut a step in my current workflow tha is at the moment:

1) convert mlv with raw2cdng into dng files
2) in Davinci Resolve, convert dng files into DNxHD 444 ArriLogC files
3) edit DNxHD files in my projects

I'd like to cut step 1 and starting directly converting the mlv files in Davinci. My ipothetical solution would be to use webdav MLVFS version for windows

In my attempts, I succesfully imported in Davinci the mlv clips from the virtual directory created in webdav. And I can see the clips but I cannot play them, only see them frame by frame. If I try to play them, I get some corrected frames alternated with red warnings frames (I suppose indicating missing frames) but again, if I see them frame by frame, I can see all of them.

I have anyway put the clips in a timeline and tried to render them. The result is unsuccesful: I get a crash of the converter at the first red warning frame davinci finds in the timeline.

I guess it's a disk speed issue and I am writing for a confirmation

In my test configuration the mlv files are on an usb3 external disk. Should I buy a 1TB internal ssd in order to get it work?

Thank you for your help 

Hi @Andy600,

a couple of points in order to help me to better use cinelog:

1) following your indications, I always use raw2cdng to convert my mlv files to use with cinelog. (davinci resolve luts).

Now, I see that there is a tool under development:  "MLVProducer for Windows". Is it possible to use it for conversion? In other words: is its output reliable as raw2cdng?

2) I'd also be interested in purchasing the AE & Premiere Version of the luts since I have to work with Green screen and I am looking for a suitable process:
At the moment my process is:
a) Import DNG into resolve
b) apply Cinelog lut adnd white balance (as you well describe)
c) export in DNxHD applying a Cinelog --> 709 rec output lut because I need to import it in Premiere and match the clips with RGB images of the background imported from photoshop.
d) import 709 dnxhd clips into Premiere, as well with jpg backgrounds
e) eliminate the green screen by a keying plugin
f) edit and export (to Resolve for CC or not)

With this process, I have to use a lot of hard disk space, since I mainly export the dng clips  DNxHD both with a Cinelog -> 709Rec  (to use with premiere) and one version without the output lut for backup purpose. So I double the used space.
at step c) I'd like to export only the version without the "Cinelog -> 709Rec" output lut
d) import in Premiere and either:

dI) apply a "Cinelog -> 709Rec" lut to the "cinelog" clips in order to have the right "final" curve to work with the jpg background
dII) best: apply a sort of "inversion" lut (also in photoshop, or in premiere) to the images of the background in order to have a "flat" background matching with the "cinelog" clips
This would be the best option, since I could keep working with a Cinelog curve and export to Resolve for a final CC still with the cinelog curve.

Do you think that buying the AE & camera raw version of the Cinelog luts this would be possible?

Would you suggest a better workflow?

Thank you. Cheers. Carlo

Thank you all for your feedback.

@Walter Schulz: I see your point... wise words 

@dubzeebass: I also have cinelog luts, I think I'll go for conversion then.

@Levas: raid is my next step. I think that the nas I mentioned (4 slots actually) will receive 2 more hdds soon :-)

Hi,

I started recording our clips in raw (mlv format) and I am enthusiast about the results.

As already said... thank you A1ex and ML guys for this 

The other side of the coins is obviously the huge amount of data to storage comparing to h264 clips.

I already ordered a new NAS with 12TB of HDs (2 x 6tb) but I am afraid It will not last long.

What do you guys usually do?
- Do you keep your MLVs or convert them?
- Do you store them in HDs or else?
- do you store 1 copy or do also a backup somewhere else?

Thanks 

@Andy600

Thank you Andy, it worked 

Hi @Andy600 and guys

I followed your tips and I am converting in Resolve my dng clips into DNxHD.
But I have a gamma shift issue during one of the steps of my workflow.

My workflow:
- convert MLV to Dng with raw2cdng
- open my clips in resolve in a timeline
- white balance
- in the first node, apply the transform lut "bmd to cinelog" (I did not do it in the input panel and now I have too many clips already done... )
- render as individual DNxHD 1080p 444 clips

now, I have my clips ready to edit in Premiere:
- import DNxHD 1080p 444 clips in premiere
- edit
- send to resolve with fcp xml
- apply in the last node cinelog to rec709 legal LUT (as above, I should have put the LUT in the output voice in the panel)
- Color correct in the nodes before the lut


Now, it comes the issue:
Since I need to apply lower thirds and graphics to my final Color graded clip, I want to send it back to Premiere, so:
- render as unique DNxHD 1080p 444 graded clip
- import into premiere
- apply graphics etc
- render as h264

And the problems are:
- When importing in premiere, the grade is slightly washed (comparing with the result I see in resolve), like there is some gamma issue.
- When I render as h264 from Premiere, the clip is even more washed than what I see in premiere.

I checked rendering directly in resolve a h264 clip and the result is perfect, exactly what I see in resolve as well.
But this way I cannot have my lower thirds, nor my preffered transition effects I apply in Premiere...

I don't know if this is the right place, but since you reccomended to render our clips in DNxHD and keep them and discard MLV, maybe you already know how to handle this.

Thank you. Regards.

wetransfer sent 

Thank you. Regards.

Hi all,

chmee, thank you for your efforts and results. I'd like to put raw2cdng in my workflow and there is just an element I'd like to understand:

I am using 1.6.5 version and trying to understand how to solve some vertical banding issues: in order to reduce vertical banding, should the "vertical banding" button be green or white?

I am asking because when the button is white I get absolutely better results than when it is green. When the button is green, vertical banding is very strong.

I am also comparing the results with MLRawViewer's output and I tink that banding in this MLRV is almost absent (with banding reduction on).

I'd really like to pass to raw2cdng since I find it more stable and I see you are still developing it.

Thank you. Cheers.

Thats how it is supposed to work.
We can only crop, not resample.

Ahh ok, thank you for your support 

[I don't understand why my clips are always only an inner part of what I see on the screen. In other words, the clip is like cropped.]

Hi all,

I am an usual ML user and I am thrilled about this great new option! 

I have installed the MK11174 on my 550d, made some testing clip (resolution is 960x540, 16:9) and converted with ra2dng converter.

I don't understand why my clips are always only an inner part of what I see on the screen. In other words, the clip is like cropped.

Am I missing something or this is the way it's supposed to work? Maybe I am not able to disable the 5x crop mode? (Actually I don't think I have ever activated it  )

Thank you for your help