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Johannes

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2014, 01:29:28 PM »
Yeah I agree.


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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2014, 01:35:09 PM »
The fastest memory card would now surely have to be this one: http://www.canonwatch.com/ces-2014-lexar-announces-worlds-fastest-memory-card/

Of course no current camera would be able to take full advantage of it but some memory card readers will. That would make downloading your raw footage very snappy indeed...

[edit: I just realised this is a CFast card, not CompactFlash. Same form factor but different pin configuration and not compatible with Canon cameras]
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2014, 08:04:20 PM »
The fastest memory card would now surely have to be this one: http://www.canonwatch.com/ces-2014-lexar-announces-worlds-fastest-memory-card/

Of course no current camera would be able to take full advantage of it but some memory card readers will. That would make downloading your raw footage very snappy indeed...

[edit: I just realised this is a CFast card, not CompactFlash. Same form factor but different pin configuration and not compatible with Canon cameras]
Well like you already said, no camera currently available can take advantage of their speed anyway. They're designed for the next generation of cameras anyway. It doesn't say if they're backwards compatible, but seeing as they are the same form factor it is like they will be. Just get the new reader since it can handle current cards as well as these.
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2014, 08:14:50 PM »
It doesn't say if they're backwards compatible, but seeing as they are the same form factor it is like they will be.

They simply won't. CF-Card with PIO/UDMA is just like IDE/parallel ATA. CFast is like SATA (=serial ATA). Without some intelligent adapter there is no way to have both standards working together.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompactFlash#CFast
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2014, 08:45:40 PM »
I have been using the 64gb 1000x KB card and the 1050 128gb KB card since may with no issues. The only thing i notice is with the start up time of the 5d3. the 5d3 takes a lil longer to start up with the 128 card in then the 64 card.

Question for 5d3 raw shooters. Can the lexar 1000x 64gb handle these specs: or 2048x (2:35:1 forgot other dimension) 24fps, 1920x818 @ 32fps and 30fps, and 1920x1080 24fps and 1920x515 48fps continusly? Im not asking sarcastically im actually asking if it can sustain those resolutions cuz ill get one.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 03:50:53 AM »
I have been using the 64gb 1000x KB card and the 1050 128gb KB card since may with no issues. The only thing i notice is with the start up time of the 5d3. the 5d3 takes a lil longer to start up with the 128 card in then the 64 card.

Question for 5d3 raw shooters. Can the lexar 1000x 64gb handle these specs: or 2048x (2:35:1 forgot other dimension) 24fps, 1920x818 @ 32fps and 30fps, and 1920x1080 24fps and 1920x515 48fps continusly? Im not asking sarcastically im actually asking if it can sustain those resolutions cuz ill get one.
Its not about frame rate, it about data rate. And at approx 120 MB/s no DSLR camera I know of can attain that anyway.  Certainly none from Canon.

Anyway, those are the fastest CF cards there are. To go any faster you'll need a different form of card technology which hasn't been implemented in cameras yet.
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2014, 05:07:13 AM »
Lexar also announced updated CF cards with 1066x instead of 1000x. 160mb/s read and 155mb/s write speed.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2014, 04:43:10 PM »
Lexar also announced updated CF cards with 1066x instead of 1000x. 160mb/s read and 155mb/s write speed.
Joining Toshiba and Sandisk who have had them for a while now. The Lexar cards are cheaper though. Incidentally, those max speeds are like the car mileage ratings: you ever quite get that at home. :)
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2014, 12:16:10 AM »
I have been using the 64gb 1000x KB card and the 1050 128gb KB card since may with no issues. The only thing i notice is with the start up time of the 5d3. the 5d3 takes a lil longer to start up with the 128 card in then the 64 card.

Since may RAW recording with no issues sounds good.

Had someone problems with the KB 1050x 128GB, although using a UMDA 7 3.0 cardreader?

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2014, 01:21:36 AM »
If I remember correctly, I have stumbled on plenty of posts regarding problems with KB 128gb 1050x, mostly disappointing speed. Me myself have 3 x KB 128gb 1000x cards that I have been forced to send back 4 times by now. Since passed summer. Different problems. Speed, defected frames with artifacts, corrupting with udma7 card readers etc. Thats why I gave up with them and bohght this mighty 256gb Sandisk and planning to buy another one. Btw, 2x128gb is ~200 eur more expensive than 1x256gb.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2014, 02:52:58 AM »
Yes..
I have a SanDisk 256 GB 160 MB/s too.. I tested it just shortly, because my own 5DIII will be delivered next week, but about speed there is no advantage to a KB 1000x 64. And my friendĀ“s KB 128GB 1050x have a faster speed than the SanDisk 256 GB 160 MB/s. -.-

Question is: What cards fail iven if u use a UMDA7 3.0 cardreader...

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2014, 05:15:47 AM »
If I remember correctly, I have stumbled on plenty of posts regarding problems with KB 128gb 1050x, mostly disappointing speed. Me myself have 3 x KB 128gb 1000x cards that I have been forced to send back 4 times by now. Since passed summer. Different problems. Speed, defected frames with artifacts, corrupting with udma7 card readers etc. Thats why I gave up with them and bohght this mighty 256gb Sandisk and planning to buy another one. Btw, 2x128gb is ~200 eur more expensive than 1x256gb.
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2014, 06:54:27 PM »
Has anybody experience with the durability of the KumpterBay 128 1050x ??

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2014, 03:03:22 AM »
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2014, 10:35:29 AM »
For capacity the best card is 256G Sandisk Extreme Pro, that does 1920x1080@25 with 5d3, but not 30 (at least mine does not).
Cheapest RELIABLE sandisk-option for me seems to be Sandisk Extreme 120MB/s - i've got one 64G version and it does well with 1920x1080@25.
I did like Komputerbay before, but with the long waiting period for exchange if the card is faulty the sandisk seems like a better option.
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2014, 04:41:10 PM »
For capacity the best card is 256G Sandisk Extreme Pro, that does 1920x1080@25 with 5d3, but not 30 (at least mine does not).
Cheapest RELIABLE sandisk-option for me seems to be Sandisk Extreme 120MB/s - i've got one 64G version and it does well with 1920x1080@25.
I did like Komputerbay before, but with the long waiting period for exchange if the card is faulty the sandisk seems like a better option.
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Is this the Sandisk Extreme 120MB/s that can do continuous 1920x1080 @24 on 5d3?
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2014, 10:06:26 AM »
That one is exactly the card - for me it did a full cards worth of mlv with sound, 1920x1080x25, without dropping frames or any anomalies. I would say that in both of my 5d3's it's a bit faster than the 256G/Extreme Pro.
I will order the 128G version also for testing.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2014, 05:34:13 PM »
That one is exactly the card - for me it did a full cards worth of mlv with sound, 1920x1080x25, without dropping frames or any anomalies. I would say that in both of my 5d3's it's a bit faster than the 256G/Extreme Pro.
I will order the 128G version also for testing.

Thanks, I'll head over to B&H tomorrow and give this Sandisk a shot. I'll update
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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2014, 12:32:06 AM »
Nang, any news on the Sandisk CF card?  The specs say only 60MB/s Write.  It is way cheaper than the other 128GB cards so it would be great if it worked with continuous 1080p.  Thanks.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2014, 04:12:10 PM »
Nang, any news on the Sandisk CF card?  The specs say only 60MB/s Write.  It is way cheaper than the other 128GB cards so it would be great if it worked with continuous 1080p.  Thanks.

Sorry for not updating, but there was a change to the plan. I was heading to B&H, but then I received an alert that my KB 1000x 64gb was delivered. I ended up benchmarking/testing that card instead and then using it on a couple of shoots. I'll eventually give that Sandisk a try, but for now I have enough cards and don't have as much time.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2014, 05:33:38 PM »
Hey, no worries.  I went with buying a Lexar 1066x 64GB card from B&H for $212.  This should hold me for a while and hopefully newer, faster cards will appear over time.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2014, 10:49:32 PM »
Hi Guys nice to see a thread dated this year regarding cf cards and which ones to get.....as a newbie to the whole RAW thing and pretty new to dslr shooting i had to think about pennies and go with the KB 64gb x 2 cards due to constraints on budget...beginning to worry a bit about them after reading this post but not had any issues yet (crosses fingers and toes!) Anyway my write speeds whilst recording appear to be around 93mb/s and about 96mb/s which will sustain full 1920x1080 at 24fps pretty well although i have only really used ten second shots..are these speeds ok or should i send them back and try to get faster cards? Also wondering when peeps say they have recorded 2.5k raw etc how is this achieved?

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2014, 11:38:32 PM »
hey Bassman2003, how did the Lexar 1066x 64gb cards work out for you? was thinking of buying them...well either this or sandisk 64gb 160mb/s CF...

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2014, 12:35:44 AM »
I just got it yesterday.  I don't really know how to run the benchmark tests as shown in this thread with the different buffer levels shown.  Could somebody let me know how this is done?  And maybe how to best optimize the settings for ultimate speed?  I don't want to post benchmarks without them being true of the performance of the card.

I will be happy to post my results.  Thanks.

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Re: Best CF Card for RAW recording December2013-January2014
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2014, 01:04:41 PM »
Just to add my 2 cents, I tested various 128 GB CF-cards recently, among them Komputerbay 1050x, SanDisk Extreme 120MB/s, Lexar Professional 1000x and Hama 150MB/s, but the only ones that I found reliable are the SanDisk Extreme Pro 160MB/s. 64GB cards seem to perform a whole lot better (understandable), the 128 GB models work much faster as FAT and rather unreliable formatted in ExFAT.