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DeafEyeJedi

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Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #250 on: March 23, 2015, 10:16:40 PM »
Entire frame of 1080p is possible in Liveview of 5D3.

According to my KB 128GB x1066 CF card:

1920x1080 @ 24fps as well as 25fps is possible for continuous recording.

1920x648 @ 60fps (stretch 1.67 in post to achieve 1080p) is also possible for continuous recording as well.

Don't forget that you can actually gain more out of 5D3 by using crop-mode... [emoji6]
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #251 on: March 23, 2015, 11:29:08 PM »
Entire frame of 1080p is possible in Liveview of 5D3.

According to my KB 128GB x1066 CF card:

1920x1080 @ 24fps as well as 25fps is possible for continuous recording.

1920x648 @ 60fps (stretch 1.67 in post to achieve 1080p) is also possible for continuous recording as well.

Don't forget that you can actually gain more out of 5D3 by using crop-mode... [emoji6]

Thanks that's great to know. I'm planning to purchase a 5DII but am waiting for the prices to drop a bit more.

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« Reply #252 on: March 24, 2015, 12:55:00 AM »
Save up to get the 5D3... You can prolly find a used one (with 20-25k shutter count) for $2K or possible less if you search hard enough...

Trust me I sold my 5D2 and got the 5D3... Never regretted it once!!!

Here's one I found...
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/pho/4908735073.html
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #253 on: March 25, 2015, 02:31:53 AM »
So we can get full 1920x1080 60fps continuous slowmo Wow.. Great info @DeafEyeJedi  What firmware you suggest I use 1.1.3 or 1.2.3? and what nightly build did you use to get continuous slowmo recording? Which nightly build you think is the most stable even when using HDMI?  I'll be receiving my 5D Mark III tomorrow Yeah!!! soo.. excited  :D coming from a 50D & BMPCC.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #254 on: March 25, 2015, 02:52:47 AM »
No, you can't. Read his post again carefully. At 60fps, you get 1920x648 (you get a squashed image that must be stretched in post). The data rate for true 1080p 60fps would be impossibly high for continuous recording (~200 MB/s).

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #255 on: April 14, 2015, 05:38:53 PM »
Hi, any M owners out there with updated raw video capability info? Am using the new U3 SD cards from SanDisk and Transcend, and it seems I've been able to pull fairly decent resolutions. My highest continuous record for 2:39:1 at 23.97 fps is currently 1728x434 (using MLV RAW w/sound). Still nowhere near CF, and still limited by the M's 40MB write speed, but at least it seems to be an improvement. Just wondering what resolutions other M owners are pulling these days. Also wondering if most of the M info on Roman's most excellent raw capability chart still applies. Thoughts?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #256 on: April 14, 2015, 06:21:27 PM »
Hi, any M owners out there with updated raw video capability info? Am using the new U3 SD cards from SanDisk and Transcend, and it seems I've been able to pull fairly decent resolutions. My highest continuous record for 2:39:1 at 23.97 fps is currently 1728x434 (using MLV RAW w/sound). Still nowhere near CF, and still limited by the M's 40MB write speed, but at least it seems to be an improvement. Just wondering what resolutions other M owners are pulling these days. Also wondering if most of the M info on Roman's most excellent raw capability chart still applies. Thoughts?

Take a look at this calculator of mine:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14909.0

1728 is actually the limit of what the EOS-M can record, it is already using the whole width of the APS-C sensor with 3x5 sampling. The calculator will allow you to see what the practical and theoretical limits of the EOS-M and other cameras are.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #257 on: April 16, 2015, 09:56:38 PM »
Take a look at this calculator of mine:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14909.0

1728 is actually the limit of what the EOS-M can record, it is already using the whole width of the APS-C sensor with 3x5 sampling. The calculator will allow you to see what the practical and theoretical limits of the EOS-M and other cameras are.

Very nice, rbrune. Very nice indeed. Thanks much. Thought I'd seen just about every ML forum out there; don't know how I missed your crop factor calculator thread.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #258 on: April 28, 2015, 02:39:49 PM »
Hey,

is it possible to add the 70d to the Features Comparison? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5

thanks.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #259 on: May 06, 2015, 01:13:10 PM »
I am wondering about the write speed on 5DMKIII. Perhaps I am doing something wrong..

it says 100+20 from SD.. But I don't think I have ever gotten close to 120MB/s write speed.

I just tested 1920x1080 in 34 fps with card spanning, when I deactivated card spanning I did not get any less recording time. Also the RAW menu alaways calculates that I will get around 300 frames at around 90 MB/s (as that was my last write speed)..

Also tried 1856x to get some more recording time.

Am I doing something wrong ?

Card Spanning ON
Canon menu - Write to multiple ON
Card Buffer for CF - Tried 1 and 4, heard 4 could be good for higher fps (dont remember where)
Fill method - 1 and 0
GD - OFF
Preview - Canon

Tried 30p ALL-I and 24p All-I. There was no difference at all. Though my experience when testing write speed on my card says 24p is higher.

Need help pushing the write speed to max.

Edit: Cards are Lexar 1000x 128 GB 150MB/s and Sandisk Extreme 40 MB/s
once you go raw you never go back

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #260 on: May 06, 2015, 02:17:06 PM »

Tried 30p ALL-I and 24p All-I. There was no difference at all.
Aren't these H.264 related and have no effect when recording RAW anyway?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #261 on: May 06, 2015, 03:02:46 PM »
it says 100+20 from SD.. But I don't think I have ever gotten close to 120MB/s write speed.

120MB/s is a very theoretical limit. Do not expect to get anywhere above 100MB/s.
Either reduce fps or resolution to get longer/unlimited recording time.

You can use this to estimate bandwidth use: http://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/
(make sure you do set your measured write speed after selecting the MKIII to see what your limit for long recording times is)

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #262 on: May 06, 2015, 04:48:15 PM »
Aren't these H.264 related and have no effect when recording RAW anyway?

It had effect in earlier builds, same as setting RAW for pics. It forced to use larger buffer probably. Doesn't have effect in new builds.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #263 on: May 30, 2015, 06:57:08 PM »
Hello guys, i'm new with magic lantern, but reading a lot here in this forum. i have a 5D2 and i'm just wondering about the CF-Cards... here it's say that the max writing spead of the 5D mk2 is about 75mb/s, so if i understand right, for the 5D2 i don't need any 1066x CF-Card but a 800x would also do the job? or would i get some time restriction?

thanks in advance

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #264 on: August 06, 2015, 10:20:55 AM »
Does anyone know the Highest continuous recording time for 6D until a 64gig CF card is full  ? with what resolution? and with sound?

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« Reply #265 on: September 05, 2015, 04:10:42 AM »
I may be wrong but I believe a 6D only uses SD cards for storage. That would mean limited bandwidth and resolution for recording in RAW.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #266 on: September 05, 2015, 11:27:08 AM »

I may be wrong but I believe a 6D only uses SD cards for storage. That would mean limited bandwidth and resolution for recording in RAW.
https://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/

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« Reply #267 on: September 16, 2015, 01:47:16 PM »
Hey,

is it possible to add the 70d to the Features Comparison? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgQ2MOkAZTFHdFFIcFp1d0R5TzVPTVJXOEVyUndteGc#gid=5

thanks.

I second that, can somebody please add the 70D to the list?
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #268 on: September 16, 2015, 07:43:18 PM »

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #269 on: September 16, 2015, 08:32:33 PM »
agreed and the M's Modules category needs to be updated... any chance I can help on that?

I don't mind tackling that one down for you guys.
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« Reply #270 on: September 23, 2015, 06:45:48 AM »
Hi!
Which cards did you use for Canon 6d for ML continuous recording with sound and for 16:9  1152x648 and  1280x720?
I mean is it possible with sandisk extreme hcI 80mb/s class 10? I guess not  ::)
thank you thank you


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« Reply #271 on: September 23, 2015, 06:55:48 AM »
Have you googled for a benchmark of this card?
And please add fps you want to use.

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« Reply #272 on: September 23, 2015, 07:07:31 PM »
I cannot find anything else about the card except that it is SanDisk 16GB Extreme SD Card (SDHC) 80MB/s - Class 10 UHS-1 :/
I would do a 24 fps
can anyone recommend me a card for this and for canon 6d? thanks a lot

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« Reply #273 on: September 24, 2015, 07:33:15 AM »
@Berlin

more than the speed of write of your camera model, it's not necessary.
The write speed of your Canon is in the first post of this thread, in a google doc.

CF card is different as SD card. Don't confuse with this.

Check the best brand you can buy in that speed.

For the moment Lexar appears to be the best, and Komputerbay CF card 64 GB 1000X in my case works better than Lexar 1000X That I have one.

It's weird but could be probable that a card works different as the same card from other part number. This is impossible to know, except with trial and error.

Cheers!

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« Reply #274 on: September 24, 2015, 08:48:52 PM »
Thanks for the advice!