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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #125 on: October 11, 2013, 02:56:27 AM »
Can someone describe the current tools to use for deflickering, since the guide in this thread appears outdated?

According to http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8149, the .xmp method has been removed, at least for the Canon 600D, and I can confirm that with the 10/3 build xmp files are no longer output with the cr2s (though for some reason the .xmp output menu item is still there.)

I can't very well use the ETTR mode without some way of deflickering, so I wanted to ask what to do. I'm using Lightroom to process the .cr2s.

What i do is select all images change WB to auto then back to As Shot, this sometimes creates them not always, if it doesn't export the settings and try again :)

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2013, 10:09:38 PM »
Someone please post an alternative way to downloading UFRAW for MAC, the current download link are outdated , and also not working. Anyone please.

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2013, 10:34:58 PM »
Someone please post an alternative way to downloading UFRAW for MAC, the current download link are outdated , and also not working. Anyone please.
I have tested the provided links and they work.  Which link does not work?

Also you should find instructions for mac in here: http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Install.html
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2013, 10:40:19 PM »
when i go to download and under mac osx, none of the links will re direct (they all say service unavailable or internal error). The gimp osx link works but in the descripton it says there isnt a stand alone version in that. Im just looking for a direct link to get just UFRAW on my mac so i can test out this flicker free timelapse process. Also to you have any file renaming applications for mac?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2013, 10:46:21 PM »
http://namechanger.en.softonic.com/mac

But use Google and search for it
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2013, 10:50:23 PM »
what about for the UFraw? any direct link?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #131 on: October 15, 2013, 10:52:23 PM »
https://www.google.com.ec/?gws_rd=cr&ei=z6NdUsT9AYag9QTOwIHYAQ#q=ufraw+for+mac

When you find what works please added here to update the opening post.
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #132 on: October 15, 2013, 10:55:31 PM »
will do

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #133 on: October 15, 2013, 11:41:22 PM »
would you say its better to invest in a PC just to do this process?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #134 on: October 16, 2013, 12:00:55 AM »
I dont think so..  some one will have done this on a mac.  The other option is to download an Oracle VM virtual box and install a windows OS inside your machine.  I assume this is doable, I use the VM virtual box in my windows machine and run Unbuntu 64bits.
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« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2013, 01:59:43 AM »
Hello all
Having some major issues with this.  I'm new to doing timelapses in general but I've followed everything by the book and still can't get a flicker free timelapse.


Here's the timelapse I shot today.  I'm using a 5d Mark III with the Oct. 13th build. 

Camera settings:
M mode
24mm
ISO 100
f/16
1/25 sec - 1/8 sec

Auto ETTR: Always ON
Trigger mode: Always ON
Slowest shutter: 11"
Exposure target: -0.5 EV
Highlight ignore: 0.2%
Midtone SNR Limit: 6 EV
Shadow SNR Limit: 3 EV

Post Deflicker: XMP
Deflicker percentile: 50%
Deflicker target level: -4 EV

Intervalomater:
Interval: 2 sec
Start after: 3 sec
Stop after: 910 shots
Manual FocusRamp: OFF

I copied all the .cr2 and .xmp files to the hard drive in a new folder.  I used Bulk Rename to rename the XMP's to match the .cr2 files.  I imported the catalog into lightroom and made sure to sync the folder - I see all the signs that it's working.  The XMP's are being read, I see the little -/+ signs at the corner, and when I'm develop mode I can see the exposure changes for each frame. 

I brought them into AE and didn't touch anything in ACR.  I simply imported them, made a new comp, and exported to test the flicker and there seems to be a lot.  Did I miss a step or do something wrong?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm working on Windows 7 btw.  Thanks in advance

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2013, 03:40:54 AM »
How do you import to after effects after working the files in lightroom? Not sure the metadata follows to ae from lightroom? You could try to mess with metadata settings in lightroom though. Think I had som troubles going from lightroom to after effects myself once. Are the pics flicker free in lightroom? I usually export my processed files from lightroom to jpegs and import the jpegs to after effects then creating a moviefile from there

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2013, 03:50:47 AM »
Oh I thought that the metadata would've followed.  It could've been that.  I'm gonna try to export .jpegs but looking at some of the photos, some of them are darker than others - not by a lot but enough to cause the flicker most likely, but I thought that was the whole point of the xmp's to begin with.

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #138 on: October 17, 2013, 04:03:24 AM »
The xmp should take care of flicker. at least for most of the photos. Sure you didn,t fiddle with the exposure setting in develop mode in lightroom? I got some serious flickering too once but only when having a real long interval like 1:30 between shots. Found out from  Renatophoto that he also had some problems with xmp;s having trouble with intervals longer than 1 minute. Don,t seem to be the case here though

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2013, 04:06:54 AM »
Nopee haha 2 second interval for me.  And I didn't touch ANYTHING in develop mode.  I did do everything correctly though right?  As far as setting everything up?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2013, 04:14:29 AM »
Nopee haha 2 second interval for me.  And I didn't touch ANYTHING in develop mode.  I did do everything correctly though right?  As far as setting everything up?
I dont think ETTR can work properly at 2 seconds interval, try 10 seconds and limit the slowest shutter to 5 seconds.
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #141 on: October 17, 2013, 04:18:31 AM »
Ahh okay fair enough.
I'm gonna try to shoot another one tomorrow but hopefully I can try and salvage this one. Thanks a lot!

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #142 on: October 17, 2013, 02:07:49 PM »
This script should make it easy to modify or ramp xmp deflicker settings in Bridge.

https://github.com/davidmilligan/BridgeRamp/blob/master/BridgeRampingScript.jsx

This should be a lot easier than the exiftool trick, and you can do a ramp as well. If you're modifying the post deflicker exposure, make sure to check the "additive" box. This will add the ramped value to the existing value, perserving the deflicker (might be a good idea to backup your xmps before running this script, incase you do something wrong, or I did something wrong in the code ;))

The script should give you a new context menu item, so just select the images you want to ramp, right click and go to "Ramp ACR Settings..." at the bottom.

I opened a new thread for this, get more info there and report bugs, requests.

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #143 on: October 17, 2013, 04:01:10 PM »
Thanks dmillgan, I have added your great script to the OP!
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2013, 01:35:39 AM »
I dont think so..  some one will have done this on a mac.  The other option is to download an Oracle VM virtual box and install a windows OS inside your machine.  I assume this is doable, I use the VM virtual box in my windows machine and run Unbuntu 64bits.
Check this site: www.virtualbox.org


Can the batch processing of the CR2 and UFraw files be done in any adobe programs? for example photoshop or bridge?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2013, 02:25:41 AM »
Yes
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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #146 on: October 18, 2013, 07:49:23 PM »
sorry to bug, but do you know how to go about that?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #147 on: October 18, 2013, 07:54:18 PM »
sorry to bug, but do you know how to go about that?

what i meant was merging the raw photos and the metadata , not just batch renaming. I have the whole adobe suite, and if there is a way to do that through photoshop,bridge,lightroom then id love to see the direction on that if possible. Maybe there is a thread on that in hear i have not seen yet?

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #148 on: October 18, 2013, 07:56:54 PM »
Have you followed the excellent first post. All info is in there.
Do you ask for how to use the xmp deflicker files in bridge? If so, simply open up your cr2 files together with the xmps (same name) settings will automatically apply

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Re: Flicker Free ETTR Timelapse: - -Beginners Guide & Basic Post Processing --
« Reply #149 on: October 18, 2013, 08:11:09 PM »
I have but i am not on windows, most of the apps and programs are windows based, doesnt run smoothly for me trying to run windows programs on my Mac. Thats why im looking for a solution within the adobe creative suite. Oh really ? that simple? hmmm i will give it a try, thanks a lot for responding Danne! Im assuming that you can save the files with the deflicker xmp as a batch?