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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #450 on: June 06, 2013, 10:04:08 PM »
Video Test using 550D ;)


Really nice shots! Long shots too! Can you share your set up and workflow?

Thanks for sharing

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #451 on: June 06, 2013, 10:11:05 PM »
Another build with the help of Xaint

Congratulations to both ! Meanwhile, I updated the head post by adding also this release !
If I can be of help, let me know !

PS: do you will pull your memory improvements to the repo ?  :)
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #452 on: June 07, 2013, 12:13:26 AM »
I will try(i don't promise anything) to do test comparison between 5Xraw, raw and h.264(bitrate 3.0x) tomorrow. Let's see can you guys tell a difference ;)

I will try to match the scene, DOF, colours etc. best as I can.

Why I'm telling this? Because then I have some reason to do this test, other wise I would probably move it tomorrow and then again tomorrow etc. You know what I mean. Now I have social pressure to do this, I can't let you guys down. :D  ::)

E: Comparison will come next week...

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #453 on: June 07, 2013, 12:37:54 AM »
Really nice shots! Long shots too! Can you share your set up and workflow?

Thanks for sharing

Sure, I used the 2.35 ratio, 1024x448, Global Draw off. SD card is a Transcend 16gb class 10. Lense is the Kit Lens 18-55 IS II with an ND8 filter.

I used Rawanizer to extract the DNG, then I imported,graded and exported every files in Lightroom 4.
I finally used Sony Vegas to make the final video rendered at 1280x720 24fps.

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #454 on: June 07, 2013, 01:32:41 AM »
I can not achieve good results with this. All shots that I take are with too much noise (even with ISO 100) and after I try to use noise reduction in ACR and a bit of sharpening, loaded frames in AE are still noisy. And every frame is a bit different, you can see like a noise movement all across the final render. Dont know if Im doing something wrong here. I tried both kit lense and 50mm 1.8 II.

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #455 on: June 07, 2013, 01:39:50 AM »
Another build with the help of Xaint getting us a bit more memory for recording, I am getting much more frames before skipping now with 1280x432x24p 193 frames to be exact, was only getting 86 before his hack.

This also includes Alex's latest bitbuckit update, gives us more resolution choices looks like and a mem hack but doesnt seem to help our cam at all.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/09bl5v3ovzca5c7/ML_Raw_MemFix.zip

This includes Filemanager as will, you can find in the Debug menu.

Thanks for this upload but unfortunatlely there is not enough choices in 2.35 resolution format. There is no 1024*450 choice, it's 1180 and then the next lower resolution is 980x....
Can you include a resolution in the 1024 range ( so we can record at around 18,5Mbit / sec ? )

Thanks ;)

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #456 on: June 07, 2013, 02:02:02 AM »
Thanks for this upload but unfortunatlely there is not enough choices in 2.35 resolution format. There is no 1024*450 choice, it's 1180 and then the next lower resolution is 980x....
Can you include a resolution in the 1024 range ( so we can record at around 18,5Mbit / sec ? )

Thanks ;)
That is the version from the unified, does the tragic lantern version have the size you want, I can do a tragic-lantern build with the mem patch.
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #457 on: June 07, 2013, 06:41:00 AM »
on the new build

http://www.mediafire.com/download/09bl5v3ovzca5c7/ML_Raw_MemFix.zip

Getting the following

1280x640 - 56frames
960x480 - 101frames
864x432 - 126frames
768x384 - 222frames

before Getting
960x544 - 71frames

thanks for more frames!!

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #458 on: June 07, 2013, 10:10:55 AM »
Now i'm getting stable 1280x536 (lovely 1:2.4 cinemascope ratio) at 18 fps, and with some effort and tricky twixtoring, i'm pretty sure i can shoot the whole short film entirely within the RAW workflow.

With all the fine detail, dynamic range, beautiful color reproduction and other flexibilities, we can now get a bunch of really shiny shots, guys.
Another color test:

A couple of tests with motion and slightly moving objects. As you can see, this technique theoretically can handle some more complex motion, so this is promising:

My current workflow:
- movie mode with overlays off
- 1280x536 18fps or 1344x576 15fps
- minimal possible ISO of course (for day outdoors usually i use iso 100-0.3 ml ev = 80)
- shutter speed for filmic look is obviously dictated by 180 degrees rule, so it should be around 1/40 - 1/50 sec. (if you are planning using some time remapping plugins like twixtor, the shutter speed shoud remain the same for natural motion blur, regardless of actual fps you are shooting on).
- Raw2DNG
- Initial and most thorough grading in Adobe Camera RAW
- Importing DNG's directly to AE (my slightly overclocked core i7 930 is enough for short tests, but for longer sequences i will use exporting to 16bit tiffs or smth)
- Twixtor pro to frame rate conversion.


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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #459 on: June 07, 2013, 10:25:36 AM »
The last build it's giving me better results for the first 200 frames, but then I get drops more often than before. I'm using a Transcend class10 16gb

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #460 on: June 07, 2013, 11:19:28 AM »
Got a crash after first time launch with this build. No issues afterwards, but my fav resolution width 1408 is gone.. Will have to downgrade

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #461 on: June 07, 2013, 11:22:15 AM »
Now i'm getting stable 1280x536 (lovely 1:2.4 cinemascope ratio) at 18 fps, and with some effort and tricky twixtoring, i'm pretty sure i can shoot the whole short film entirely within the RAW workflow.

With all the fine detail, dynamic range, beautiful color reproduction and other flexibilities, we can now get a bunch of really shiny shots, guys.
Another test:

 Looks great. Can you describe your workflow, please? Do you shoot in picture or movie mode, at what shutter speed and ISO? Raw2DNG to AE? When do you grade, in ACR or after you import dngs to AE?

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #462 on: June 07, 2013, 11:57:52 AM »
Got a crash after first time launch with this build. No issues afterwards, but my fav resolution width 1408 is gone.. Will have to downgrade
See my newest post
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #463 on: June 07, 2013, 12:02:40 PM »
Anyone having hard time deciding which record module they like best out of Magic Unified vs the Tragic version, this will help you.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9v3l9lxfnmvbffg/Raw_MODULES.zip

Just use my latest bin to make sure your up to date on everything, but go into the ML/Modules folder on your card and delete raw_rec.mo and add these 2 files that are in this zip. You will have 2 new option within Magic Lantern.

When you decide which you like best, just delete the other module or just keep both, your choice.
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #464 on: June 07, 2013, 12:24:23 PM »
Anyone having hard time deciding which record module they like best out of Magic Unified vs the Tragic version, this will help you.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9v3l9lxfnmvbffg/Raw_MODULES.zip

Just use my latest bin to make sure your up to date on everything, but go into the ML/Modules folder on your card and delete raw_rec.mo and add these 2 files that are in this zip. You will have 2 new option within Magic Lantern.

When you decide which you like best, just delete the other module or just keep both, your choice.

For me tragic if that one was with more resolution options.
here is my test.
in 720p mode got 1088x416 25fps continius
there are some pixels wrong is there any explanation why so? maby 720 mode?

but with the one from notdabod
i can get 1244x360 25fps at 720 mode


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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #465 on: June 07, 2013, 02:36:14 PM »
Excuse my silly question, but: how to record raw in 1:1 crop mode, so no line skipping ? And how to record raw in no-crop mode (with line skipping??) ? Do "no crop mode" equals to line skipping entering into play ? many thanks !  ::)
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #466 on: June 07, 2013, 03:38:39 PM »
Excuse my silly question, but: how to record raw in 1:1 crop mode, so no line skipping ? And how to record raw in no-crop mode (with line skipping??) ? Do "no crop mode" equals to line skipping entering into play ? many thanks !  ::)

I'm not sure I understand the question but: In crop mode (5x, press focusing zoom on the camera and record from there) there is no line skipping. When the camera is not zoomed in (no-crop mode?), Canon's firmware reads some lines only.

Anyone having hard time deciding which record module they like best out of Magic Unified vs the Tragic version, this will help you.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9v3l9lxfnmvbffg/Raw_MODULES.zip

Just use my latest bin to make sure your up to date on everything, but go into the ML/Modules folder on your card and delete raw_rec.mo and add these 2 files that are in this zip. You will have 2 new option within Magic Lantern.

When you decide which you like best, just delete the other module or just keep both, your choice.


The more resolutions are available for our slow cameras... the better. Thanks!

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #467 on: June 07, 2013, 06:30:10 PM »
Hi, I don't understand. downloaded here is the new raw2DNG
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/downloads/raw2DNG.exe
converts with stripes  :(


   
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #468 on: June 07, 2013, 08:15:43 PM »
I got no love in "Share your videos" so I'll post it here as well.  I was trying to see if it's worth upscaling footage that's 1024x448 to 1080p or 1920x840 and here was my result.


Note:  I don't recommend scaling up to 1080p if you aren't using 5x mode.  When you use 5x mode you aren't hurting the resolution from line skipping so it scales much nicer.  If you aren't using it, just scale to 720p imo.

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #469 on: June 07, 2013, 08:41:33 PM »
I got no love in "Share your videos" so I'll post it here as well.  I was trying to see if it's worth upscaling footage that's 1024x448 to 1080p or 1920x840 and here was my result.

The video you posted is 1920x840 (there are horizontal black bands in the upper and lower part): can you post a real 1920x1080 upscalig, just to taste it ? Many thanks !  ;)
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #470 on: June 07, 2013, 08:45:52 PM »
Now i'm getting stable 1280x536 (lovely 1:2.4 cinemascope ratio) at 18 fps, and with some effort and tricky twixtoring, i'm pretty sure i can shoot the whole short film entirely within the RAW workflow.

With all the fine detail, dynamic range, beautiful color reproduction and other flexibilities, we can now get a bunch of really shiny shots, guys.
Another color test:


Marvelous !  ;)
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #471 on: June 07, 2013, 09:30:50 PM »
Thank you for the new version!
I get 1280x544 with 24 fps with Tragic RAW in 720p mode.

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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #472 on: June 07, 2013, 10:28:41 PM »
A very stupid question :

Testing raw video...
In Canon video mode i cannot set the shutter speed, ML bottom display says that it's fixed to 1/6 sec !
In Canon photo M mode I can set the shutter speed, ML bottom display says it's the value i'm setting, but at all effects it's overridden to 1/6 sec, and this is visible in the lv simulation and also in the playback !

Why !   :o

update : it's because i set fps override equal to 5fps... but why i cannot set a 1/1000 sec shutter speed with 5fps ? it should be perfectly legal...
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #473 on: June 07, 2013, 11:03:30 PM »
@pooli: i made the same experience today, that an older version of raw2dng works better than the newest build for my 550D footage. But i'm not sure it's an result of other parameters (green and red pixels) so i stick for the old one for now.

The video you posted is 1920x840 (there are horizontal black bands in the upper and lower part): can you post a real 1920x1080 upscalig, just to taste it ? Many thanks !  ;)

1920x840 is 1:1.875 aspect ratio, where as 1920x1080 is 1:1.78. So to get a heigth of 1080 the width must be cropped from 2025 to 1920. ;)


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A very stupid question :

Testing raw video...
In Canon video mode i cannot set the shutter speed, ML bottom display says that it's fixed to 1/6 sec !
In Canon photo M mode I can set the shutter speed, ML bottom display says it's the value i'm setting, but at all effects it's overridden to 1/6 sec, and this is visible in the lv simulation and also in the playback !

Why !   :o

update : it's because i set fps override equal to 5fps... but why i cannot set a 1/1000 sec shutter speed with 5fps ? it should be perfectly legal...

Ha! Just as i was quoting you, in order to give You a hint about FPS override, You gave yourself the right answer. LOL
Its not possible to vary shutterspeed in normal way while using FPS override. You can choose some variation of shutterspeed in Advanced options of override: opt for low light = 360°, low jello = 180°.
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Re: 550D raw video recording port official thread
« Reply #474 on: June 07, 2013, 11:15:40 PM »
For some reason this isn't working very well for me...
Apparently my Samsung 16GB Class 10 SDHC is below average in terms of speed.

I've tried every build posted here, and the more I test it the more I get shots only made of weird frames like this one I posted before:


How can this be ? At the first shots it worked just like expected, but now regardless of what build I try or settings, at this point 90% of all shots just end like that  :-\