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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #925 on: July 16, 2013, 09:50:57 PM »
This attached video is an example of my real world use of the 5D2+VAF. I shot this for non-profit work to raise funds for a church restoration, it will show a lot of wide shots of a brick structure that will simply be very difficult without the filter. Also shows some person interviews, I intentionally did not sharpen the interview shots since the person is old and it would "enhance" his wrinkles. :)

There was no raw video yet so this is H264, but Magic Lantern was used so I could monitor the sound and split the audio channel for safety, auto rec restart is also useful in long interviews.

Please view in 1080p.


Mostly people shots on this one.

Very Nice Ted,
I think you answered my question
I Think the VAF filter would be a good investment,
the interviews "Sold Me"  Thanks :)

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #926 on: July 17, 2013, 03:48:37 PM »
Here is the benchmark of a Flashraptor 800x 64GB Card

As some people are reporting low write rates for cards others report much higher values to, may there be something wrong with a batch of 5D's or some of the cards?




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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #927 on: July 17, 2013, 04:13:48 PM »
What do you guys think? Should I be sending this card back? Can't get continuous on the Komputerbay 64gb 1000x. Only getting around 54.2mb/s currently. Here is the last benchmark


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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #928 on: July 17, 2013, 04:19:02 PM »
What do you guys think? Should I be sending this card back? Can't get continuous on the Komputerbay 64gb 1000x. Only getting around 54.2mb/s currently. Here is the last benchmark



Can you run the test again in playback mode?

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #929 on: July 17, 2013, 04:45:21 PM »
@coma I have a Monster 800x card and get  around 60 MB/s and a Promaster 1000x card and get around 73 MB/s, if you want to get the maximum recording time with raw you will need a 1000x card.

@athimbleofdan you may want to try and return that card based of my tests and what others report you should be getting write speeds in the mid 70 MB/s range.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #930 on: July 17, 2013, 05:13:01 PM »
@bnvm Thanks! Doing a couple more tests in movie and playback mode. Here are the results. Looks like it's an improvement over photo mode. Right around where it should be. Still can't shoot full 16:9 1880 in continuous. It's not giving me the green "continuous okay" and saying it's around 56.4 mb/s now. Seems to change every so often.


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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #931 on: July 17, 2013, 05:43:21 PM »
@athimbleofdan your number still seem low. As I recall it is not valid to benchmark the card in playback mode, the results are always higher than you get with other modes. I believe that the live view needs to be enabled during benchmarking to get an accurate reading of how the card will perform when recording raw.

With your 1000x card you should be getting around 75 MB/s when recording raw, the 56.4 MB/s you are getting is similar to what I see with my 800x card. I believe at this point continuous shooting at 1880 with 16/9 ratio is not possible with any card, the MK5D2 body doesn't quite have the speed required. As of now, if I remember correctly, I the highest resolution I can get continuous shooting is at 1880 with a aspect ratio of 2 (1880x940).

Things have been changing quickly so I may be wrong on some of the specifics however.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #932 on: July 17, 2013, 08:05:02 PM »
Did you get that resolution with the komputerbay 1000x.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #933 on: July 17, 2013, 10:59:23 PM »
Iv been reading and looking at samples of the new tweak that has been found, the Dual ISO, the results looks amazing from what i have seen so far. Iv noticed that its for the 5Dmkiii and 7D at the moment, will this ever come to 5Dmkii?

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #934 on: July 18, 2013, 12:04:19 AM »
Did you get that resolution with the komputerbay 1000x.

No with a ProMaster 1000x 16GB, I am getting about 73 MB/s with it.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #935 on: July 18, 2013, 04:27:10 AM »
No with a ProMaster 1000x 16GB, I am getting about 73 MB/s with it.

Oh, ok. Thats about the same, apparently a tad slower though. The komputerbay gets 75mb/s....

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #936 on: July 18, 2013, 06:30:37 AM »
Yep definitely slower 71 MB/s normal and 73 MB/s in crop mode.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #937 on: July 18, 2013, 06:44:57 AM »
Its weird how the komputerbay is the fastest. Some report even faster than Lexars.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #938 on: July 18, 2013, 04:19:55 PM »

Apologies for the delay. VAF test: one with and one without (can you guess which is which?) @1872 x 1250 in a 1920 x 1080 AE comp. All settings at zero in ACR, 400% scale applied for the digital zoom and rendered out @ h264 8mbps. The aliasing looks terrible without the VAF in Resolve & AE, but that's a display trade off, although the 8Gb lossless version from AE has artifacts around the plain of focus. It's hard to differentiate and perhaps I'm justifying my outlay, but the areas that would suffer aliasing are much smoother, particularly the double yellow lines. The VAF also has a slight reverse diopter effect, adding 15-25mm to your closest focal point.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #939 on: July 18, 2013, 04:50:58 PM »
Buying a Komputerbay card was really really difficult for me, they keep sending me the wrong one. Now I have the opportunity to choose the size again. A lot of people here have tested them, which one is the fastest? 32GB or 64?

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #940 on: July 18, 2013, 05:12:03 PM »
Recently I bought a 32g, in 1880x1058 (16:9) (23.976) can record some 1500f (some a minute and a half), so I think it is a good choice ... for your reference.  ;)

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #941 on: July 18, 2013, 05:31:17 PM »
Recently I bought a 32g, in 1880x1058 (16:9) (23.976) can record some 1500f (some a minute and a half), so I think it is a good choice ... for your reference.  ;)

Thanks a lot. How about 1856X1004?

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #942 on: July 18, 2013, 05:49:53 PM »
Thanks a lot. How about 1856X1004?

Recording can be set at 1856x1044 exceed 3200f no skip, the largest in 5400f around (over four minutes), use the frame skip in 2, Card warm-up set at 1G, the average recorded for the 75 ~ 76.4MB / s up and down.   :)

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #943 on: July 18, 2013, 06:53:34 PM »
Recording can be set at 1856x1044 exceed 3200f no skip, the largest in 5400f around (over four minutes), use the frame skip in 2, Card warm-up set at 1G, the average recorded for the 75 ~ 76.4MB / s up and down.   :)

Can you test to see if you get continuous at 1880x940? The aspect ratio should be at 2:1.

I literally just ordered this card yesterday night and I was searching ebrywhere on the forums for benchmarks etc., and all of a sudden you come out! Thanks so much!

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #944 on: July 18, 2013, 07:11:30 PM »
Can you test to see if you get continuous at 1880x940? The aspect ratio should be at 2:1.

I literally just ordered this card yesterday night and I was searching ebrywhere on the forums for benchmarks etc., and all of a sudden you come out! Thanks so much!

Yes! Have been tested in 1880x940 (2:1) continuous recording over 10000f (over seven minutes) no frame skip, file size exceeds 30GB .. card is full.  ::)

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #945 on: July 18, 2013, 07:25:53 PM »
Recording can be set at 1856x1044 exceed 3200f no skip, the largest in 5400f around (over four minutes), use the frame skip in 2, Card warm-up set at 1G, the average recorded for the 75 ~ 76.4MB / s up and down.   :)

Not bad. Now we need someone with the 64GB one.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #946 on: July 18, 2013, 07:34:09 PM »
Yes! Have been tested in 1880x940 (2:1) continuous recording over 10000f (over seven minutes) no frame skip, file size exceeds 30GB .. card is full.  ::)

Freakin awesome! Thanks a lot. Is this the highest aspect ratio the card can go before non continuous shooting?

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #947 on: July 18, 2013, 07:35:52 PM »
Not bad. Now we need someone with the 64GB one.

There are many other benchmark and reviews on this forum. I remember though yesterday when I was searching through, I found a guy who had a 32, 64, and 128 gb card. He did benchmarks for all three. The 32 and the 64 were the same. And the 128gb was significantly slower than the rest.

Here we go: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5510.25 Its post #49

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #948 on: July 18, 2013, 08:16:20 PM »
Freakin awesome! Thanks a lot. Is this the highest aspect ratio the card can go before non continuous shooting?

I believe so and it will probably stay that way unless the dev's can find a way to decrease the amount of data written to the card, 10-12bit or find a way to squeeze a little more bandwidth out of the MII. Looks like mid 70's is about the limit for this camera.

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Re: 14-Bit RAW video Builds for 5D2
« Reply #949 on: July 18, 2013, 08:32:44 PM »
I'm fine with that though I wouldn't say this is final for the 5D2.