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Rikoshet

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #425 on: December 14, 2014, 01:33:38 AM »
Hi guys! Why nobody update this thread? Any progress?
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #426 on: December 14, 2014, 03:01:34 PM »

Hi guys! Why nobody update this thread? Any progress?

With the limited due respect for such a question: what do you think?

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #427 on: December 15, 2014, 03:21:22 AM »
Off topic on:
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With the limited due respect for such a question: what do you think?
I see no respect at all! AND you don't answer! Are you here to laugh at people? I hope not!
Do you really think I was waiting for this kind of answer? You really want to know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking you are impolite on a forum!
Have a nice day!!!
Off topic: off.
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #428 on: December 15, 2014, 04:24:12 AM »
Sorry didn't mean to hurt your feefees.

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #429 on: January 26, 2015, 07:16:42 AM »
Hi everyone.!
I am also very interested in such adapter and I started a VOTE in separate topic. Please share your opinion as I expected more replies. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14350.0

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #430 on: January 28, 2015, 06:26:59 AM »
Found some SATA to PATA chips and already send inquiry about practical speed of them. Have a look:

1. Marvel 88SA8040/88SA8052


2. ACARD ARC-772


3. JMicron JMH330/JMH330S


4. Genesys Logic GL831A


They are all one chip solution. Soon I will get replies from manufactures and compile it in a comparison chart.

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #431 on: January 31, 2015, 05:41:17 PM »
Interesting...
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #432 on: February 03, 2015, 12:40:03 PM »
Your collection of PATA -> SATA chips is nice.
But, you still need active conversion from the non-True-IDE CF to True-IDE mode.

Does anybody, by any chance, know which CF-mode the host controller uses? That seems like the fundamental challenge people fail at figuring out here.
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #433 on: February 08, 2015, 11:52:20 AM »
Guys, you will never cease to amaze me. I feel like i am assisting at history of filmmaking while it's being written

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #434 on: February 08, 2015, 04:29:53 PM »
"Your collection of PATA -> SATA chips is nice.
But, you still need active conversion from the non-True-IDE CF to True-IDE mode.

Does anybody, by any chance, know which CF-mode the host controller uses? That seems like the fundamental challenge people fail at figuring out here."

True-IDE mode. And after all that, you still need help from the ML developer for some firmware changes.

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #435 on: February 08, 2015, 07:00:33 PM »
I'm trying to figure out where exactly the challenge is. Does anybody know more exactly where it fails. True-IDE mode shouldn't be a problem to interface. I suppose the host controller doesn't stick exactly to the CF specs then? Correct?
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #436 on: February 09, 2015, 10:43:33 PM »
Support of Marvell chip distributor said that slave or host revisions are existing. (So right version should be used in application)
The same corresponds to other chip makers but some of them are bi directional.

I tried to understand about True IDE mode in CF specification and found only 3.0 publicly available. (To early to pay 100$ for Revision 6.0)
If some one can help to understand it I will save a lot of time.

Soon I will define the best chip and order development board (demo board) to start testing.

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #437 on: February 14, 2015, 11:13:16 PM »
Hi Guys!
We have done first step, the working prototype:
http://imgur.com/rF2MB3i
Yes, ridiculous speed on usb2.0 CF card reader and normal hdd, but be patient! As you we too are anxious to see it working on usb3.0 and ssd!  :D
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #438 on: February 15, 2015, 07:49:25 AM »
Cool!

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #439 on: February 15, 2015, 08:39:06 AM »
Really nice work, @Rikoshet!
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #440 on: February 15, 2015, 08:50:57 PM »
Nice!

Please show us a video of this.
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #441 on: February 15, 2015, 10:28:13 PM »
Well, my friend, who is building the prototype, is in Japan, I'm in Italy. He does not have an USB3.0 card reader and ssd. Tomorrow he will ship the unit to me and I'll make all testing and after will try it with my 5dmk3. I think next weekend I'll have some news.

Question to moderators: why my post must be approved by a moderator? This does not happen before...Thank you!
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #442 on: February 16, 2015, 01:54:08 AM »
Good to see this moving ahead. Nice work Riko!

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #443 on: February 16, 2015, 08:59:37 PM »
Grande riko!!!! Cosa dobbiamo fare per fare avere all'amico giapponese USB3.0 card reader and ssd? Credo che una rapida colletta fra tutti noi, felici utilizzatori di magic lantern riuscirebbe nell'intento no?
 
Great news riko! what shall we do to get our japanese friend the USB3.0 card reader and ssd? I believe a quick donation between all the Magic Lanter user will suffice! :)

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #444 on: February 16, 2015, 09:27:35 PM »
Non e' necessario!  :) Ha spedito oggi l'unita a me.  ;) Quando arriva faccio subito i test di velocita'!  ;D

It's not necessary!  :) He shipped the unit to me.  ;) Once here will do speed test!  ;D
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #445 on: February 21, 2015, 10:48:31 PM »
Fantastic! Please do keep us updated!  :)

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #446 on: February 22, 2015, 12:18:38 AM »
Looking forward to this!
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #447 on: February 23, 2015, 01:00:34 AM »
Caro Rikoshet, sono italiano pure io.  :)
Perito elettronico e amministratore del gruppo Magic Lantern Italia su facebook, se hai bisogno di una mano o se vuoi spiegare il progetto anche agli italiani iscriviti pure al gruppo.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/magiclanternitalia/

I'm the admin of the Magic Lantern Italia user group on facebook. If you are interested in sharing your project with italian users join the group.

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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #448 on: February 26, 2015, 12:52:50 AM »
Ciao Casanova!
Thanks, I've joined the group! :)

So, for now, with Marvell chip, we have about 85-90MB/s write speed, pretty disappointing... The main problem is the adapter is not seen by the cam, like it happened to other guys on this thread. The solution is to go FPGA way to emulate a CF or software way...for now I'm waiting an answer from g3gg0 for 2 days. I'm sure he have personal life so ...patience.

Going FPGA way may be time consuming so the cost may go high. The time is the key factor in this era, cams that uses CF become less, CFast will dominate, so the need for this adapter may disappear...
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Re: CF-to-SATA hardware interface for RAW recording (fork)
« Reply #449 on: March 08, 2015, 01:24:43 PM »
hm what answer did you expect? :)
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