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Re: Levas' crop_rec_4k experiments for 6D
« Reply #200 on: August 21, 2023, 08:11:11 PM »
There are lots of good cameras.  Porting to any cam takes a lot of work.  I'd like to see ML on the 6D too, but I don't own one.

Since you want the 6D to get more attention, you could consider learning to code, you'd want to learn C and some Arm assembly.  After that, get some experience with common reverse engineering tools, definitely including Ghidra.  We can help you at any stage.

If that sounds difficult or time consuming to you, now you should understand why not every camera has a port, and why not all cameras have the same features.



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Re: Levas' crop_rec_4k experiments for 6D
« Reply #201 on: August 21, 2023, 08:14:51 PM »
It seems interesting. I can try learning that.

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Re: Levas' crop_rec_4k experiments for 6D
« Reply #202 on: August 21, 2023, 08:51:58 PM »
I noticed is that 6D lacks a 5k mode, unlike eos M or even 5dIII. Could you explain me why?

5.2K 1x3 2.35:1 on EOS M / 700D has 1736x2214 RAW resolution (1736 is Binned from 5208), then in post it must be stretched by e.g. up-scaling it to 5208x2214 to get corret aspect ratio, so the camera doesn't record the full native 5208 width resolution in 1x3 modes, it records Binned 5208 width resolution which become 5208 / 3 = 1736 (we are capturing the light from all 5208 horizontal pixels).

6D has one 1x3 mode which is 1640x2156 @ 24 FPS, it become 4920x2156 after stretching, if we follow the same naming for 1x3 presets from 5D3 and 700D, this 1x3 mode on 6D will be 4.9K.

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Re: Levas' crop_rec_4k experiments for 6D
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2023, 08:16:52 PM »
ML works really well on 6D. For 3x3 it does 1832x1222 with liveview and hdmi out. I don't use 1x3 but there are several high res alternatives, it's not correctly streched however. And for 1x1 it has 2560x1440 and my favourite 2,4:1 in 2880x1200. Everything with unlimited recording. The only thing I'd want is a maxed 4:3 preset. One issue with the 6D is the bad moire, but that's on the camera.

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Re: Levas' crop_rec_4k experiments for 6D
« Reply #204 on: September 03, 2023, 01:19:30 PM »
one think I noticed is that 6D lacks a 5k mode, unlike eos M or even 5dIII. Could you explain me why? It has even more 2MP than eos M, why it lacks that?

The reason for this is, the sensor readout speeds is too slow on the 6d.
The APS-C camera's have faster readout speed (smaller physical size gives them probably faster readout speed with the same design)

The 6D is the cheap full-frame from Canon, readout speed is rather slow compared to the APS-C Canon's.
Sensor of the 5dIII is a different design, readout speed is almost 2x as fast compared to the 6D. 
That's why the 5DIII has all the cool high resolution options like 3.5K crop mode and such.
The 2880x1200 crop mode is the highest resolution possible in 24/25 FPS in 1x1 mode, resolutions beyond this gives corrupted frames or camera lockups, because the sensor can't keep up.
Same goes for the 1x3 mode 1640x2156@24fps, giving 4920x2156 after stretching.
Readout speed is about 85 megapixel per second on the 6d.
2880x1200x25fps = 86400000 pixels per second (86MP).
1640x2156x24fps = 84860160 pixels per second.(85MP).

So it's a limitation of the hardware.