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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2020, 12:57:57 PM »
I mean this effect here, one of the cons of 1x3 footage:
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1. original footage
2. 100% sharpen in MLVApp (it sharpens first and rescales afterwards)
3. 500% sharpen in PS after MLVApp export (first rescaling, then sharpening)
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2020, 03:26:27 PM »
Thanks a lot, Masc, a very useful example!  Now I understand.  The reason I did not notice the effect was that I did not rescale in MLVApp but just exported the footage in its original size.  In my workflow, I always do it that way. I do all corrections and grading in MLVApp, export without rescaling and then mount, edit and rescale in Resolve.  From now on, I will export anamorphic footage with 0 sharpness from MLVApp and apply sharpening as a last step in Resolve.   These discussions help a lot and we all learn from them.  Thank you again.

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2020, 03:57:43 PM »
But why do you let Resolve rescale (unsqueeze) the footage? AVIR in MLVApp is by far better than bicubic in Resolve?!
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2020, 04:42:06 PM »
I don't unsqueeze the footage in Resolve, I do it in MLVApp.  Let's say, I have filmed the footage in 1736x2928p resolution.  I import it in MLVApp, unsqueeze it, make all necessary corrections, sharpen and export it in ProRes as a 5208x2928p file.  I open this footage in Resolve, do the editing, mounting, etc. and then I downscale it to my final desired resolution - say 1920x1080.  That's all.  The reason why I export in ProRes 5208x2928p  is because I also use these files for storage - they are much lighter than the original MLVs, if I use the LT option and are also very easy to edit in Resolve.  I keep the MLVs only if the footage is very important to me.

Now I understand that it is better to skip the sharpening step in MLVApp and apply sharpening in Resolve. This does not complicate my workflow, on the contrary - export of unsharpened footage from MLVApp goes much faster than sharpened one.

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2020, 04:29:40 PM »
Hi all !
What are the other resolution possible in anamorphic ? Do we have a resolutions that have standard ratio like 1:85/1 or 1:78/1 ?
Can we have real time preview even if it is not continuous ? If yes, how much time it stays continuous ?
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2020, 04:41:49 PM »
You can have: 2.5:1, 2.39:1, 2.35:1 and 16:9. At 10, 12 and 14bit lossless. All at 23.976fps. All with B/W preview. Mostly continuous (just 2.5:1 14bit isn't).
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2020, 08:18:54 PM »
Bw: is there a chance that in my test this weekend I did actually had a color realtime preview @2.39 ?


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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2020, 08:26:58 PM »
Bw: is there a chance that in my test this weekend I did actually had a color realtime preview @2.39 ?
EOSM: maybe. 5D3: I don't think so - not in anamorphic mode.
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2020, 10:54:02 PM »
EOSM: maybe. 5D3: I don't think so - not in anamorphic mode.
And what are the conditions that allows real time preview in EOSm and not in 5DmkIII ?
Btw, amazing news for the other ratios !

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2020, 11:22:37 PM »
Start by following theBilalFakhouri massive work on understanding preview registry. His posts are scattered here and there but not too hard to find. Achieving real time preview with anamorphic modes for instance is not easy work. First find the correct combination of preview regs(around 30) and then tweak them together towards increased realtime preview.
If you have a 5DIII and a lot of spare time maybe hook up with "the wizard" and see if you could help him out.
My personal take. Buy the guy a 5DIII and if we´re lucky, he´ll find time to do the work for the 5DIII.

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2020, 12:43:37 AM »
Start by following theBilalFakhouri massive work on understanding preview registry. His posts are scattered here and there but not too hard to find. Achieving real time preview with anamorphic modes for instance is not easy work. First find the correct combination of preview regs(around 30) and then tweak them together towards increased realtime preview.
If you have a 5DIII and a lot of spare time maybe hook up with "the wizard" and see if you could help him out.
My personal take. Buy the guy a 5DIII and if we´re lucky, he´ll find time to do the work for the 5DIII.
Thanks Danne for the advices !
I'm gonna write to santa claus for theBilalFakhouri ;-)

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #61 on: November 17, 2020, 05:50:21 PM »
I just wanted to let you know I've zoomed in with mlv app and I saw from my test there is a  difference in the display setting if I had slightly sharper on or a higher saturation as defined very high or contrast very high the original mlv turned out to bake in the settings that you see on the display.

 Maybe you should test that to confirm me I used the 5.7 k build.

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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #62 on: November 17, 2020, 06:05:39 PM »
@ChristianEOS: sry, I don't get what you want to say. Please try using punctuation marks. But what MLVApp has to do with a 5.7K build, saturation, shaprness and your display?
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2020, 04:23:05 PM »
If you change the display settings then it is baked in the picture.

For example slightly sharper baked in picture makes aliasing.
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Re: 5.7K anamorphic 5D Mark III footage
« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2020, 04:27:50 PM »
What display settings do you change where and why it bakes in what and where? What are you talking about?
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