Author Topic: MOOD OF MADRID & INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY 2019 | 5D MK III | MLRAW  (Read 1971 times)

wib

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As a gift to my girlfriend, we visited Madrid and found ourself immersed in mood of the city and even got the chance to rally the march on International Women's day 2019.

You will see some nice poetic mood, and feel the crowd into the march.

This time I converted all my MLV files into DNG (before I only did Prores) and imported them in Davinci, and challenged myself to do also the cut directly within Resolve (Im more a premiere/after editor) as it was more convenient and stronger to manage the huge raw sequences and playing, previewing, in real time. For the color management, I followed this article posted on eoshd https://www.eoshd.com/2013/11/introducing-eoshd-film-lut-5d-mark-iii-raw-resolve-10/ and I find that the clips are so much more appealing with this workflow. After some WB corrections, I applied after my favourite lut (Portra 160)

I included the live sound recorded from the 5D. (although there is some sound effects here and there...)

Hope you enjoy.

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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2019, 06:38:25 PM »
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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2019, 06:57:34 PM »
Great video! My favorite shot was the bartender pouring the drink!

I want to question your workflow a little more. I love Adobe After Effects and Premiere to edit so I am scared of using Resolve to edit. Is it significantly time-saving to use Resolve?
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wib

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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2019, 05:34:17 PM »
Yes ! I will make a post with a bit of BTS about the workflow and I will answer you that during the week-end.
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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2019, 06:06:30 PM »
Yes ! I will make a post with a bit of BTS about the workflow and I will answer you that during the week-end.

Amazing video! I too would like to know more about your workflow - I love the filmic aesthetic.

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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2019, 12:35:35 PM »
Hi !

Sorry or the delay, I had more work than expected  ;) and sorry It's gonna be a long post, but I hope I can answer all. Do not hesitate to ask me to clarify something.

There is one thing that blowed my mind, it's the stabilizer of davinci. It's so much powerfull than warp stabilizer from adobe. It's less chaotic zoomings and wobblings. If the first result is not good, you have to make analyse again with another option (there is "perspective", "x & y only", "camera similar") the thing it that, from what I understand, it will restabilized again and again what is already analysed stabilized, without cropping a lot, and make it smoother while keeping the camera's dynamic, without looking like a crappy amateur stabilized footage.

So. First of all I use that build : crop_rec_4k.2018Jul22.5D3113 and my settings for mlraw were 1920x872 @24fps and 14-bits lossless, and sometimes @50fps (so the image would be in 1920x524, but it's easy to apply after an automatic resize in davinci or if not with the inspector, I explain that after.

and sometimes I also used the cropmode "1080" with the framerate overide @24 fps, when I wanted to zoom stronger than my lens could do. About that, but I noticed I should have use at least 3.5K because @1080p the chromatic aberrations are more noticable (it's green edges arround silhouettes).

The CF card I used is a Komputerbay 64 Gb 1050x and the SD card where ML is installed is just a Sandisk Extreme 8 Gb (10)

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I just to buy one more 64 Gb 1066x to replace one that I damaged, it was corrupted when I used another card reader than mine, that wasn't UDMA7 compatible, that's one thing to remember)

On the field, sometimes to be sure of what I just to shoot was interesting, I played directly on the 5D the last recorded shot, also to check if it's not corrupted, you never know.

Then at night I dumped all the mlv files to my laptop, in order to format the CF card and back up

So comes the moment of reviewing the shots. I prefer to use MLRawViewer, as I find it allows to play the videos with real time playback. To be able to open the 14-bits lossless MLV files, I found that I had to use the 1.5 of MLRawViewer. (Thanks the answer on twitter! https://twitter.com/_wib_/status/1088744602490814464). So I never change any settings other than the curve to C-Log and I export the DNGs after choosing the shoots I liked. It's a bit one per one, by I prefer, as I can review the videos before editing, and there is not that much of videos.

The version of MLRawViewer 1.5 I used is here https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9560.msg192141#msg192141

So I end up with a bunch of DNGs folders with their wav files.

In davinci, as I mentionned before, I followed this article to be able to import the raw correctly
https://www.eoshd.com/2013/11/introducing-eoshd-film-lut-5d-mark-iii-raw-resolve-10/

I will quickly quote what are the instructions :

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  • 1. first download this LUT : https://www.eoshd.com/uploads/EOSHD-LUT-5D3-Raw.cube.zip
  • 2. In Project Settings, in Camera Raw select Cinema DNG instead of Arri Alexa
  • 3. Change Color Space to Blackmagic Design Film and do the same with Gamma, check Highlight Recovery.
  • 4. In Color management, Lookup Tables, there is the button "open LUT folder" that will open the folder where you can copy the downloaded lut.
  • 5. in 3D Input Lookup Table, choose the LUT EOSHD LUT 5D3 RAW

the settings for camera raw



you can save the project settings as a preset, and load it whenever you will start a new one, and be sure to set the framerate correctly as in Davinci 15 you can't modify that after creating a timeline

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Note that now you can do that in davinci 16, just like in Premiere, but it's still in beta with lots of crashs

These steps are only to make davinci import correctly the DNGs and be able to start color correcting with a good base

So when Im selecting the DNGs, in the media panel they will look flat, but once imported they have the "base" color and the gamma corrected. Now comes the time to edit, in the edit panel. I start by derushing and throwing interestings cuts in a timeline. Then I make moving cuts, assembling what look like sequences, making connections with movements etc..  and start to build a simple structure.


 


Then when it start to look like something I choose and add a soundtrack and adjust the cuts, after that I start make some color corrections (WB, style, curves.. other LUT...) Thanks to the setting of raw you can push more before correcting too.



Im not a fan of trendy transitions like crash zoom, pans etc.. but I manage to use one, directly in davinci with power windows. There a person passing by the camera so I rotoscoped (it's easy, only some keyframes) It's a simple "2 video track" for the transition.



Here is the mask (power window) for the transition. Check this tutorial https://youtu.be/q_uALfXPkp4



After I finish to color correct, I decided to push further the audio, and use the ambiance recorded by the camera with importing the wav that came with the MLV/DNGs convertions files. I encountered a little problem, I could not synchronise it at the begining (I should have start with that).

Let me explain. The timecode of the DNGs clips would start with something like 10:36:28:04 (FYI that's is the hour the clip was recorded) and the Wav's timecode would be 00:00:00:00. So it was difficult to find the match. I had to change the Wav's timecode attribute with the start timecode (in this example, I set 10:36:28:04 in the wav clip attribute pannel) from the corresponding DNG. and then find the cut point I used in the timeline with matchframe button.







And I can literally copy the cut point's timecode. And paste in the source window for find the same cut point



That was more for the marching sequence than the reste of the video, as it was more live action so It was important to be in synch, but I think it could have been easier.

Here is the complete timeline, with the audio tracks (music, ambiance, and sfx)



To answer you primary question,
I love Adobe After Effects and Premiere to edit so I am scared of using Resolve to edit. Is it significantly time-saving to use Resolve?

Im a motion designer and I use After-Effects before all, and I do my edits in premiere. Of course you could start in Premiere, and export a XML. I would say that you don't have to be worry, because you can almost do the same inside davinci, andbig advantage is that it's in real time. Event if you computer is lagging, just select all the clips, then right click and select "generate optimized media" it will take max 5 mins. Check also this video : https://youtu.be/ZLFrKP9hyuU



You can also do basic things like masking (there is tutorials here), clone stamp, speed ramping with curves etc..

https://youtu.be/q_uALfXPkp4
https://youtu.be/bWK08P_B9so
https://youtu.be/Pqf0ELWPG3I

Of course if you need to do advanced retouching or fancy transition, of text layouts, with after effects/premiere, you will have to finish color correction and render all.

The thing is that the editing part is quite complete and strong. Cut, trim... you have to adopt reflex, and memorize the shortcuts I suppose that you aleady use somes in Premiere, like the blade tool, the trim tool etc..





The only annoying thing is the magnetic option "snapping" as they call it. is a bit too strong compare to Premiere's but you can always activate and desactivate it as much as you want with the N key.



When in slow motion, here you can see that the DNG clip is originally smaller in heigh (1920x524), but with the project's settings option to "strech frame to all corners" it set it to the right size.
 


(of course you can also leave by default and modify only single clips with the inspector and play on the scale)




I hope I could answer all, do not hesitate to ask me more to clarify something.
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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2019, 02:31:27 PM »
wow, this is what you call a comprehensive answer. Thank you, wib

wib

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Re: Madrid and Women March of 2019
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2019, 08:39:31 PM »
Lol Thank you !
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