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You mean "failed to link modules" ?

Are you trying to load mlv_snd with mlv_lite? That won't work. You need to use mlv_snd with mlv_rec.

Thats correct. Thank you for the heads up!

[10bit_12bit.2017Feb11.5D3]

Using 10bit_12bit.2017Feb11.5D3 build, and can't get ML to load with SND module activated (it says something like can't load modules, with a grey box). Any idea or do any of you have the same problem? Shooting a lot of sync footage tomorrow so would help a lot for to the post process. I wish not to use nightly because of the extra resolution on 10bit while doing zoom view..

Thank you!

Humans are not very good at distinguishing colour depth, so 4 bit colour verses 2bit we are not as quick. Folks cant discern any difference in a 14bit raw vs a 12bit raw photo.  Where you get the big benefit is in pushing the raw data, like adjusting exposure in post, in that you can push 14bit raw much more than 10bit raw.

I think humans can distinguish 12bit raw vs 10bit raw photos, but that's only in certain shots and not always. 10 bit raw provides greater depth than compressed video, so one should be able to distinguish these, especially in low light shooting detail.  10bit will generally do a better job with highlight details (assuming not overexposed).  So rather than quote stops of light, think more about depth and detail in low/high light.

^ Sounds like poetry.

The most important things to me are dynamic range and color grading. I also like the 2:35:1 crop on ML. I just want great picture quality.

OT. You get that on both models. The 5D4 has more resolution, but color grading is as you know a better choice going with a 5D3. But expose right, get the colors you like (ambient light or other) and nobody cares if RAW or not. ML is more post processing, do you like that, then 5D3 maybe is the choice..

is it even possible to use c mounts on cameras with mirrors? i thought the flange distance was way off?

Depends on how you respect your hardware, I'm not worried of my mirror being broken, would have taken it of if it hadn't cost €500. The focus metrics will not work but it should work, but only in crop mode/zoom mode.

Al sounds good! I will look into possibilities with using a C-mount lens with an adaptor, they somewhat have the same diameter as EF-S but can be cheaper.

Hi - I recently purchased two Mark IVs. I was excited to shoot 4k, but I'm wondering if I should sell them and downgrade to Mark IIIs so I can use Magic Lantern. Thoughts on ML vs Canon's 4k? (Besides the crop...)

Any progress update on ML for 5d Mark IV?

Thanks.

Do you need 4K? If so, the easy of use in shooting what the camera is made to do is not what ML is. ML in for me an option to go further for that kind of options like post- and color grading. Waiting for ML for the IV is not gona happen in near (years? or never will) future..

That's awesome!!! The quality is superb. What's the maximum FPS can you achieve in Card spanning & at what resolution?

The problem is not max fps or what resolution above 2.5K but that rec stops after 5-10 sec. Use MLV lite if you thou want higher 1:1 res and continuous recording.

For example, have anyone tried a Canon EF-S 10-22mm, or other lenses while doing crop view on a Full frame Canon? Looking for ways to get a wider field of view..

Thanks for a reply!

Ooooh. Thanks. By the way, how do you guys shoot in crop mode if your moving the camera around its gotta be super hard to frame your subject with so little of the actual image is seen in the camera's LCD screen? Is there a way to shoot in crop mode in camera but the video output to an external monitor would look regular, i.e. non-cropped?

For serious work, it only works with static shots, since there is right now no way to see 1:1 over 1080p in 3x3 crop mode. The super news and high fives would be when 3x3 crop works with higher resolutions like 24xx horizontal. Until the future, use a tripod if shooting crop, or zoom view.

That looks interesting but I think I'm going to fix it in hardware rather than rely on post to take care of me. The less I sit at my computer the happier I am haha.

Agree 100 %

Loved it!  All ambient light?

Yes, strong fluorescent inside. But would if I would have had more time on set, brought some HMI or LED panels. Cheers!

Thank you!

And for the stabilization, about as much as I expected, which is to say a moderate amount. Warp stabilizer doesn't like the stars moving so I have to manually add a tracking point in after effects to get it smoother. But when you are doing 30 seconds exposures while moving post stabilization can't fix gross errors. The jib arm doesn't like wind over 10 mph either.

Biggest improvement I need to implement is better ramping in between keyframes for the motion routine. I've got accel/decel working for faster speeds (<30 minutes) but it seems to fall apart for the really slow speeds. Its just a software issue I'm sure I will sort out, but I'm kind of burned out from the coding/testing cycle at the moment.

Have you hade a look at this plug in for AE? It's over priced but revolutionary if you get it to work.
https://www.reelsteady.com

And here is a slow boring video showing off how the rig works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmgfT2uR2_0

Very impressed of you customized build! Totally rocking!
How much post is it involved to get it stable as you want it?

Ok--so which shot was with the Canon IS zoom? Did you fly with that Zeiss CP.2 35mm?

Just kidding, nice work!

Actually the 35mm is really an adequate field of view lens, if one lens solution. You both have field of view and when needed depth of feeld. IS only needed from the car facing the cargo truck.

Since you are Swedish there is http://teaterforbundet.se/kollektivavtal/film-tv-och-radio/film-tv-och-videoinspelning/ also sent you a PM.
Thanks!

After using a CP.2 at a shoot, short handed, no focus pullers, one man camera crew, the lens don't perform to what the price say. If you want professional housing of a photo lens, or exact focus metrics, then the lens is for you if wanting to burn 3000€.

The image quality is not what I have been looking for.

Short commercial done with ML 10bit and 14bit. One lens Zeiss CP.2 35mm and one shot with Canon IS zoom. Shoot in 2 days, then edited with little freedom from client, would have cut more off beat if it was up to me. Given the tempo of the music thous beats it nearly brook my leg.. The last shots with the cargo truck and at the harbor was nearly ungradable. Had mistakenly kept inside tungsten WB whiteout seeing it, I can say, RAW didn't help much there. Those differens in post work messed up the image..

But the team effort was great and justified to pull this of, either me or them weren't given much of a budget so more or less minimum pay.

Also some DJI shots to steer the pot.
Workflow: MLV/MLV lite, MLVFS - Davinci ProRes - FCP 7 - XML - Davinci grade and export.

https://vimeo.com/203030316

Some very nice pictures there. The depth in the crane shots in the harbor was really nice. Seems worth having a look at when public for everyone.

Best,
David

I love my 5d IV, it is a really solid camera. I haven't touched my 5d3 in quite awhile, but use it as a backup when necessary, or for RAW video. Not sure why you would think that a camera without 5 axis stabilization isn't worthy of a ML port 

Not worthy, but in what purpose? Is it 4K? Will the cam even handle 4K RAW video, the lack of faster cards..? The option of stabilization is one tool that would wow me. Of course not everyone..

Sounds like a zoom would be your best friend. An used 24-70 or something a like..

I bought a serie of Canon FD L lenses. Quite expensive but I like the soft look and flair they create. I mostly use 24 f1.4. Although these old lenses bleed a lot until stoped down to 2.8 or so.

I was thinking the same before but when 5D4 doesn't have 5 axis stabilisation then I believe it's a bit to much to ask for. I'm not a developer so I can't really say, but my indication is that the cam is to close to 5D3 for al the work. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Could not find OP's claim in your link.

Just liked to the white paper non the less.

Great choice of choosing M42 lenses! So particular soft and dreamy! But with dreamy stuff like that I would use stabilization, Warp or so. Best, David

Mind sharing a link to said whitepaper?

https://www.cinema5d.com/the-canon-white-paper-that-demistifies-high-dynamic-range/