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#51
Quote from: marcelo.lippi on April 02, 2019, 11:44:13 AM
I would like to take a zoom c mount 12.5 75 and ask you if with resolution 4.5k it will produce vignettes. I can't figure out which size of sensor it uses. Thank you
my post 2445 -I've found a good res that works for me - 1024x1728, records a clean video continuous and suitable for mount-c glass

depends also which aspect ratio You use. wider formats more horizontal resolution
best, try for yourself

btw. whats up with hdmi-setup of Your's?
#52
I would recommend also to format card in cam either after step one (delete ML config) or with step two (enable modules).

#53
Quote from: marcelo.lippi on March 20, 2019, 10:15:14 PM
I have not used other versions than Danne's. I'll try. However the Danne version seems to me to be of the highest quality result. I only try to find a minimum workflow to record a comfortable and safe way
thanks marcello.& wish You luck, trying the nightly , experimental and dforts, even the old TL versions with, to check out Your pref. setup. sometimes also imagined the need to have another than the build IN screen for convenience or sheer necessity. f.E. indoors, having the cam on tripod 6 feet high, the wall behind, then you think, its impossible to check the picture without a ladder .
me too & all of us like Danne's and other Dev's effort and Knowledge to circumvent the crazy-ness of the cartel of the industries.
so more resolution what everybody wants and willingly pays for - we get for just a smile.

this is great and the question is, - how come, I don't help at all with this stuff, but I wish, that to become true, what I need right now, because this would be awesome. isn' it strange , how difficult (see  diffi - cult) it is, to help with something, one self wish to the heart? so what can we do about it, as non dev's.
I hope You check out Your setup with the other versions of ML which are at Your fingertips and if You don't mind report here Your findings.

@Danne - thanks for clarification in general, much appreciated.
@masc - thanks for the new MLV App !
#54
Quote from: marcelo.lippi on March 20, 2019, 09:35:26 PM
I read that it could be used and in fact it works, it looks very good, you can't use the touch but at least you can fire and follow the action without problems ... but it produces so many errors in the recorded frames
I can't help You with that one. But using logic,
I would suggest - maybe You could have a special version with err viewfinder but clean recording, or clean preview with corrupt recording, which if I understood You,
is the case now). for You.
maybe even possible to have both, but for what price?
and a question - does this setup of Yours work with other versions then Danne's ?
#55
Quote from: marcelo.lippi on March 20, 2019, 07:53:29 PM
Today's version installed. Very stable in 4.5k resolution with the cine 2.35 script. More than a thousand frames without errors but when I connect the hdmi monitor it becomes unusable: 1 corrected frame 1 corrupt. Any ideas? Thanks for all!
just curious - how come, 4.5k anamorphic AND old cam / old hdmi should work ? isn't it to much to expect?
#56
some more tests with Danne's March20 build

I followed the instructions from Danne -> https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg208959#msg208959

so basically I started the cam with the new build on it, enabled the essential modules, formatted the card from canon menu, after restart I executed the "eosm cinema 2.35:1" script.

then in croprec submenu I've removed the 25fps and in raw video menu dialed down the res to 1136x1920 (which is fairly close to 16:9 ratio)
now, this is interesting - I've forgot to mess with the ratio setting in croprec submenu, so there was still ratio of 2.35:1 set. result was nice, only one corrupt frame out of 3100 and no stuttering or so.
then I've noticed I've forgot to change the ratio, so I changed it in croprec to 16:9 and recorded another two minutes. I noticed also after the ratio change, that res was corrected to 1136x2000, which is little less 16:9 then my set res before. viewing in mlv app, in this clip I've had 7 corrupt frames and stuttering in the movements, not that much, but it was there.

then I changed the preset to 2.5k and recorded at max res of 2192x1234 another 2 mins. no corrupted frames or anything else, clean picture at 24 fps.

so maybe its best not to touch the ratio setting after executing the script.

one is still a bit of disadvantage that even if I can push the crop a bit to the left with reg_skip_left
trying to move the crop up with the other reg results in bad image, so its now impossible to properly center the crop, which at this high res is not quite suitable for c-glass   

will test further, thanks to Danne and others for this.
#57
just tested the new build from Danne (18March)
with my settings (folder) from the March14's build

using the 5k preset as described above

did longer recordings this time (around 2&1/2 mins.) and and did reduced the res to match the 2.5k 16:9 preset. (2520x1418)
I choosed 880x1468 and could record continuous without any corrupted frames.

But, I've noticed that randomly the motion in the image hangs, freezes for short period.
didn't have this in the 2.5k preset. I've tested this with both builds and it does this in both builds, regardless of bit depth (10 or 12)

all at 23,976 or 24 fps, fresh formatted card before testing, each build on an identical card.





#58
Quote from: Teamsleepkid on March 19, 2019, 03:30:04 AM
af off can you post your setting or build good for c mount lens 1024 resolution? interested in trying it. i have lots of c mount lenses. thanks.

easy, please read my Reply #2434 and following.
use Danne's latest build. ---> https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/

@marcelo.lippi please use Danne's latest build . differences to the march14 build are here
---> https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/commits/all

#59
5k preset
reg_skip_right   -70
reg_skip_top     -100 <---- when doing this, there is white border on top
raw video resolution 1264x2126
recording continuous for 30 sec. max....





in mlv app, the resolution is shown as 1264x2236 , seems the reg_skip_top had changed this somehow.... see picture

I've found a good res that works for me - 1024x1728, records a clean video continuous and suitable for mount-c glass




#60
Quote from: Danne on March 18, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
I see. Well keep on testing  8)

Yes will do! I've noticed and downloaded Your new build - march 18 - any news on the new version?

as ever thanks a lot for the great work !
#61
I have shut ratios to OFF in crop menu, otherwise all the resolutions shouldn't be possible.
reg_skip_top destroys the colors, reg_skip_bottom cuts portions of the image.

my idea was to use the 5k preset as supplement to 2.5k preset - in the latter max res is 2520x1418, which is 16:9 but cannot roll at 23,976 fps, but with the 5k preset set to 1264x2126, which is the closest to 16:9 can record with 23,976 fps.

2126 x 1,77 = 3763,02 / 3 = 1254,34 and the closest I've found stable would be then 1264x2126




#62
did test all resolutions with the 5k preset, all recordings at 10bit lossless, 23,976 fps
each recording if not stated otherwise around 500 Frames, 50GB total

resolution - behavior during recording - playing in mlv app (OK means no damaged frames)

640x2126 - LV jumps during recording, ML console comes up, restarted, jumps
656x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , 2 bad images at beginning
672x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , 1 bad image
688x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , 1 bad image
704x2126 - LV jumps once after starting recording, jumps
720x2126 - LV jumps once after starting recording, some bad frames
736x2126 - LV jumps once after starting recording, 3 bad frames at beginning
752x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , some bad images , jumps
768x2126 - LV jumps during recording, ML console comes up, restarted, jumps
784x2126 - LV jumps several times after starting recording, jumps
800x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , 4 bad frames
816x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec. , some bad images
832x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
848x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec., 3 bad fr. at start
864x2126 - LV one bad frame then seems undisrupted during rec. ,  1 bad fr. at start
880x2126 - LV jumps once after starting recording, OK
896x2126 - LV jumps during recording, many bad trames
912x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
928x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
944x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec. , 2 bad frames
960x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec. , jumping frames
976x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec. , 2 bad frames
992x2126 - LV two bad frames then seems undisrupted during rec. , jumping frames
1008x2126 - LV jumps during recording, 2 bad frames
1024x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1040x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK

battery is hot, make a small break

1056x2126 - LV jumps during recording, some bad frames
1072x2126 - LV jumps 4x after starting recording, jumps at beginning
1088x2126 - LV jumps during recording,  jumps
1104x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec., OK
1120x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1136x2126 - LV jumps 1x after starting recording , jumps once then ok
1152x2126 - LV jumps during recording, jumps
1168x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , 2 bad fr. at end
1184x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec., OK
12oox2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec., OK
1216x2126 after switching to this res, LV broken, restarting cam,
everything works again but recording jumps around, jumping all over
1232x2126 - LV jumps during recording, jumps around
1248x2126 - LV jumps 1x after starting recording, one jump at beginning
1264x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1280x2126 - LV jumps once during recording, one bad frame
1296x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , one bad frame
1312x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1328x2126 - LV jumps heavily during recording, strong jumping
1344x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. OK
1360x2126 - LV jumps 1x after starting recording, one bad frame
1376x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec., OK
1392x2126 - LV jumps heavily during recording, jumps
1408x2126 - LV jumps heavily at beginning recording, jumps heavy at first third
1424x2126 - LV jumps twice laggy after starting recording, jumps
1440x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , one bad frame

cam temp reaches 50°C, making a break, batt. hot

1456x2126 - (first rec stop), then   LV seems undisrupted during rec., OK
1472x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1488x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , OK
1504x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 26sec., OK
1520x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 21sec., OK
1536x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 15sec. OK
1552x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 14sec. OK
1568x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 14sec. OK
1584x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 12sec., one bad fr.
1600x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 11sec. one bad fr.
1616x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 9 sec.OK
1632x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 7 sec. jumping
1648x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 8 sec one bad fr.
1664x2126 - LV seems undisrupted during rec. , continuos for 6 sec.., jumping



#63
Quote from: Danne on March 16, 2019, 11:03:52 PM
A lot of stuff going on here  :P
You are right about biggest resolution for eosm. I works with framing mode so global draw needs to be on. While recording.
Easiest access is to run the cinema script then turn off the ratios in crop mode sub menu. RAW video always 14bit lossless. Set to 10bit in crop mode sub menu.

nice thanks Danne,
it works!
I've noticed, its usefull to format card before beginning a new session with each card. just deleting the file on pc isn't enough. cards seem to perform worst without.
so first deleted all configs (restore ML defaults), then formatted card in canon menu
activated crop rec, lua, mlv lire and sound, sd uhs and silent
disabled magic zoom and restarted cam
->Scripts-eosm cinema
now I have in LV 12bit 4.5k anam. framed preview
in crop rec enable x3crop and sd_uhs
in raw video cannot change res any higher than 1624x1160, sound recording to off,
restart the cam
ok now LV tells me 10bit, 5k anamorphic, Framing
but just before the framing preview kicks in, there is the familiar white magenta black scrambled LV for short time
going to ML menu (again shorttime scrambled)
first checking the debug menu, 4rom 2 ram patches executed
in movie menu
raw video shows now res of 1624x2126
able to increase manually to 1664x2126, so now I dont use the kill GD
wow, now the preview gets Framing and B/W while recording
it records 5 and 7 seconds.
now I want to test something
in raw video menu I change the resolution to 1280x2126, where the info text at bottom changes to green, leaving menu
can record continuously for 1min.
now because I'm using a c-mount glass and thus seeing the crop isn't centred, I go to the crop rec menu and trying to change the reg_6800 to 800 and this breaks the preview and limits the vertical res to 1326 , so I set the reg_6800 back to 0 and restart cam
so now everything is back again

reducing image width makes in some resolutions the preview jump, so there would be probably corrupted frame(s).

let's look at clips so far in mlv app
at 1184x2126 there are some bad frames
at 1168x2126 the images are somewhat jumping to the left, as it was in LV be seen
at 1232x2126 bingo! please test this one, no corrution
at 1200x2126 as notived while recording, jumping around
at 896x2126 (which makes it almost rectangular, the same as with 1168 and 1200 previously
at 960x2126 bingo, please test this one (looks similar to 4:3 aspect ratio, like this somehow)
at 1008x2126 bingo again, this looks more 3:2 isch
at 1280x2126 only 4 bad frames out of 1511, this looks like 16:9, although for a c-mount glas, this is much to high res, see pic below
at 1664x2126 bingo

somehow the center alignment isn't right. and reg_6800 doesn't on it alone do the job
anyway, this build is great for further experimentation with


thanks to Danne and others 







#64
interestingly, still using Danne's march14build, I found something interesting in 5k preset.
crop mode changes: bitdepth 10bit, ratios OFF, x3crop enabled, sd_uhs still enabled
raw video changes : Preview Framing, crop rec preview - automode, Resolution 1664x2126 , unchanged also kill GD & aspect ratio of 1:2 & sound OFF

tried recording, the liveview got scrambled, but recording went on, tried with Preview-Frozen LV, nothing, restarting cam (have also to change the battery which shows the red sighn since 15 minutes....

after power up, 12bit, thought to have changed it to 10bpp, will check , but now the indicator inLV reads 5k anamorphic instead of 3.5k before res change. did change the bpp to 10 and the reported res is still 1668x2126

after restart tried another recording, which got everythime scrambled while recording some frames and then restored back the Framing preview
so decided to go down as much as 11 fps for the next shot
activated fps override and set the framerate to 11 and optimized for Exact fps. Then most importantly I switched ->Overlay - GD to off. this gave me the scrambled LV (back)
the recording kicked in at 39.5MB, so recorded a minute and then did change following : crop mode - bitdepth to off (was 10bpp)
so now this was 14bit lossless as its default in raw video, preview still scrambled, did another recording, which on second attempt jumped from the start in continuous at 51,2MB and recorded almost 2mins (i've stopped it, green light all time)

now time to check the files in mlv app
and yes, all clips are fine, but the best is the one with 14bpp lossless. if anyhow, You don't rely on fps, this is very nice image at 4992x2126 - maybe I missed the boat, but this is the biggest resolution I've ever seen on the old eosM.

any suggestions




#65
further testing, Danne's march14 build
->scripts - eos cinema 2.35:1, activates 5k preset
res is now 1504x1390, preview changed to real time, kill GD on, soundrec. off
->canon menu, format card
crop mode menu - 10bit, 2.35:1, sd_uhs enabled, reg_6014 =19, reg_6008 =20,reg_6800_height =950 <-----this centers the realtime preview
can't get continuous, so ->prefs,config options, ->restore ML defaults
after restart, in modules activated crop-rec,lua,mlv lite, mlv sound, sd-uhs, silent
-> Overlay,magic zoom to off
after restart, formated card again from canon menu
raw video menu, sound off, Kill GD ON
crop mode menu - 12bit, 16:9, disable 25fps, sd_uhs ON, restart
checking - ->Debug , Memory Patches - 4rom 2ram, crop_rec & sd uhs, sdr104
recording MCM video, continuous at 42MB, 20% idle, recording OK
changing preset to 5k , and restarting cam
unchanged entries in crop mode menu
raw video menu - 1184x2000, 1:2, real-time, kill GD
recording (shows now 3.5k anamorphic) continuous, 47MB, 32% idle, recording OK
changing crop rec reg_6800 to 950 again
now somehow the res did change, to 1184x1050 - don't know why, clips ok, did use ca. 37MB write speed at 37% idle

so far, will do some more testing later
thanks to Danne and all others





#66
Quote from: Danne on March 16, 2019, 07:23:49 AM
I thought you were testing that. Is that one also working out of the box?
Sidenote. reg_6008 is also related to fps together with reg_6014.

Yes, out of box, but as macs mentioned, disabling GD is essential to ged rid of corruption in frames.
Will take the other register into account, thanks!
#67
yes, was working first with Your presets. then tried using own settings
as You have suggested.
If the ratio is set in crop rec submenu, either 16:9 or 2.35:1, the mlv resolutions are limited. as we know, some resolutions work only at ratios like 1:2 or 1:1, right?
I like the new x3crop for the mv 1080p modes. This is because I like to use some c-mount glass sometimes. Therefore I like also the most the 2.5k preset. in the max possible res, I get a nice fov with the 12,5mm one.
the MCM mode is also very nice if using non c- mount glass.

will do some more testing and comparing the footage.

thank You very much for this good work Danne
#68
Quote from: Danne on March 15, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
Are you sure finetuning to 45 fps isn't working?

in mv1080p 46fps preset- with biggest res.
10bit, sd_uhs enabled, reg_6014 = 28 &
1736x976, 1:1, preview Real-time, crop rec preview = automode, kill GD ON, sound off
reg_6014 = 28 is 45.026 fps
reg_6014 = 29 is 44,993 fps -  250 frames with max res. , with resolution of 1600x900 up to 15 sec.two bad frames, with 1536x864 about 30 sec. everything good

so I did decrease the res. to record continuous to 1504x846 at 44,993 fps & formatted card
could record easily 2 mins. (5,79GB) took some time to watch it with playback speed in mlv app of 14.15 fps, no corrupted images.



Noticed cam gets much hotter in these high speed mode



#69
@Danne - Disabled sd_uhs.mo
did test the 2.5k preset 2520x1412 10bit and adjusted the value of reg_6014 to 615 which gave me continuous at 18,028fps. value of 619 gave me 17,999fps, which was the closest to 18 I could get

all recordings where ok!

the value of 15 just worked for the mv1080p 46fps preset. isn't it better to have no bad images than an odd value of fps? will check this soon anyway, playing with this reg_6014 is fun somehow
#70
Quote from: Danne on March 15, 2019, 08:47:24 PM
Af-off. If you could increase reg_6014 so you get 45fps and test for corruption it would be nice.

Yes Danne, I 've increased the reg_6014 to 1 and 4 but the recordings did have a bad frame each. then I increased to 15 and did a 1 min. recording at 44,457fps and everything is fine!

Is this normal, that after powering cam off and later back on these reg_ value is again 0 ?
Anyway, I will try this reg_ in 2.5k preset too, instead of using fps override.

Thanks much Danne
will report later
#71
Quote from: masc on March 15, 2019, 07:03:01 PM
For 46fps preset, switch GlobalDraw=OFF. Otherwise you'll get much more corrupted frames.
For removing focus pixels use the latest focus pixel maps from dfort.

thank You masc
did turn on the new raw video submenu kill GD. did record several longer clips withous problems and almost without corruption (only 2 bad frames in several 1000 frames)
also  used with x3crop
I have installed the focus pixel maps from dfort

later I tested the 2.5k preset. at 2112x1188, 10bit lossless and 23,976 fps, without problems & after disabling the ratio of 16:9 in crop mode submenu, I increased the res in raw video submenu to 2520x1418 and did set fps override to 18fps, was able to record continuous, without any corrupted frames.

great Work Danne

 
#72
last (march14) build
first did reformat the card
loaded crop-rec, lua, mlv lite und mlv sound, sd uhs
preset mv1080p MCM gets automaticaly activated (nice)
did activate sd uhs in crop mode submenu, disabled 25fps, didn`t change 12bit & 16:9 settings restarted the cam
in raw video submenu - resolution 1736x976, real-time, crop rec preview set to automode, sound recording off. restarted the cam
did some recordings. everything is ok. the green record indicator all time
switched to next preset - mv1080p 46 fps, restarted cam
did record 3 clips of 1000frames. unfortunately had there from 4 to 10 bad frames per clip.
all recordings show the red indicator first, changing to orange after some time
resolution was 1496x844.

also noticed focus pixels in MCM preset and no focus pixels in 46fps preset.


#73
@Danne
was testing the march04 build with all presets .
found no corrupt recording at all with corrupted frames. did a fresh start and formatted the card in cam (canon menu) enabled after auto reboot the essential modules - crop rec, lua, mlv lite and sound & sd uhs
after reboot initialized the 2,35:1 cine script.
just downloaded the march 07 & 08 builds and will try more testing and more this weekend

Thanks to all and Danne!
#74
@Danne
just tested the mcm 1080p preset with 2.35:1 1584x672 14bpp. first four tries didn't roll, then jumped to continuous, with GD off 44MB was reported green. dialed the resolution down to compare the footage with the 50d which has this limit of 1584 without crop.
yes this 2.35:1 is interesting.

I'm aware of the 2.35 script.  will try it again with the 2.5k crop mode. that would be quit a fit with HD1072 
with your march 04 build I am very happy, thank You very much! 
#75
did a quick test and you are right Danne & masc !
the playback speed is identical. I found a 2.35:1 for both, which was (limited through 50ds 1548x672  14bit . On eosM I used Dannes 1080p mcm preset .the playback jumps at this res between 12-24 fps for 24fps footage.Sorry , I was sleeping not to see the obvious, how much the resolution matters, with mlv. so much data clouding every pixel. increase the pixel count, the total data rises dramatically.
mlv app did make a big change in my workflow. simplified and clarified
thanks a lot to all and masc building that supreme bridge to the ML raw_video feature