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So if mjpeg was possible on the 5d3. would they be 1024x64 what ever or is the 5d3 different.  uncompressed or mjpeg codecs like these would b a dream! i know file sizes will be bigger but who cares! i realy wish i could help you guys fig this one out! This is very impressive thus far and im constantly on this site checking for updates ha ha. great work yall!

I have know idea what all this means and if i did i would be developing! all i know is this would be an awsome feature! mjpeg or just a jpeg sequence would be way better the h.264 as far as quality goes! Whats the latest on this beast of a feature?

Please, help!

Today I installed the firmware on my 5D Mark III, it works.

But I can't understand:

After turning off and on again, firmware disappeared, and I have to install it again.
Is it right, or I made something wrong?

Thanks.

Its an alpha version of ML for the 5d3 meaning its purpose is to slowly test ML for 5d3 so a1ex and the gang can work out all the lil bugs. It runs off the card and doesnt install into the camera. at least thats my understanding. It does however save the ML settings, u used last, to the card (brilliant). INSTALL ON MEDIUM SIZE SD CARD AND RECORD TO THE CF CARD. Im using a 2 gb sandisk SD card for ML and a 16 gb 60MB/s sandisk extreme CF card to record to. So far so good! This also insures "safer" testing(read there disclaimer). I havent had one lock up yet. my gopro hero 2 froze 3 times today from its own firmware. to this day my mrk 3 has never frozen even with ML ALPHA 2. Great work guys!

breaking physics laws would not make me happy, fully understanding the 5d3s true limits would.  im not trying to start any winey complaining sprees either. a part of figuring out solutions is also learning about the problem. thats all i was trying to do. The nyquist limit was and interesting read and i was unaware of these issues.

i gather from whats being said is that i should assume getting sharper video (gh2 or 3 or fs100 comparable) from the 5d3 is out of the question even for canon. thats fine as i too enjoy stills.

again im trying to understand the limitations of the 5d3 and at the same time ive also been testing ML on it as well. for now i guess its best to put to rest the resolution/sharpness/clearity issue with the 5d3 as i feel its doing more harm then good discussing it. It was absolutly not my intention to irritate or upset anyone or slow down progress with ML and if i have done this i am truly sory. My future posts (ML willing) will be connected to ML alpha testing only. Sory again.

maybe the cpu cannot resize the image like s2 jpeg 25 times a second. I mean that's why the 1d has dual processors (for the burst).

The 300c has a different cpu.

I think it can get much closer anyway. closer than its current state. Also the 1d has dual digi 5s for 4k mjpeg 422 @ super 35 crop. surely the 5d3 could handle 1080 mjpeg @ a super 35 crop resolving 1000 lines. Couldnt it?

Sorry my aim was not to bash canon and i apologize for sounding that way. I got a lil to amped up i guess. I would just like know what the 5d3s potential really is. Canon reps say they want feed back and this seems to be a very loud request. Its hard not to want 1000 lines plus ML. I feel like the 5d2 opened a door for indie cinema, why try to shut it? thats all. i ment no harm i just feel in the dark about the 5d3s true potential. (of course not because of ML tho)

Sheesh! thats fast! Now im wondering whos going to prove to be the powerhouse? The 5d3 or the 7d. Great work yall as always im impressed!

[down sampled in camera]

Exactly 1% I did a strait up comparison between all-i 1080 and a s2 jpegs at 6fps (down sampled in camera but sequenced in 24p time line in post) NIGHT AND DAY! The rez is there, its just a matter of achiveing that at 24p. from all these benchmark tests it seems like the 5d3s got the power. maybe my math is off but i feel like canon could totaly provide a 1080 mjpeg on the 5d3. even if we went back to shorter clip lengths. heck id take a few minutes of that at this point. This is not a feature i expect from ML as i said they have done enough. i would expect it from canon.

That's what I'm thinking too.  How much of a difference will it make? Does it worth spending extra $1,000? Can some one share their experience with Ninja and 8 bit 422 vs 420.

Right well the only thing i could liken it to is the c300 and thats 422 8bit which looks amazing but again if they dont fix the rez output then to me its not worth it at all.

it would be much smarter to just up the rez in camera 1st. then people will be able to invest that 1000+ $ in canon glass instead. After seeing what hd should look like you realy long for it and if your going to put blood sweat and tears into your projects no dought you want the rez you were told youd get. im not sure how you round up slightly over 720p to 1080p. just not cool in my book. not for $3500 Ive sent this to canon. we all should!

And i realy think canon should also add a type of "canon log" profile to the 5d3 as well. IMO canon should make dedicated products with clear cut descriptions of what there capable of instead of a billion broad and vague products. ok i swear im done for now.

Back to Alpha 2. Ive loaded it a bunch of times with custom canon settings and have yet to experience a lock up. Love the grad expose to so smooth. Great work!

Right! i hope! also i agree 1% that eoshd.com is a lil harsh against canon at times. they seem a lil jaded. But they do dig up some interesting stuff. a1ex is also right. canon does listen. but they do so just a lil at a time. its like sd cards. they need to make as much money off them as possible other wise we would see 2tb sd cards on the market for the price of 16 giggers. in the same token panasonic seems to listen more i guess. gh3 with 1080 60p or gopro hero 3 with 2k? the market is so crazy right now. And dont say "then buy a gh3" I like the look of the 5d3 and the low light abilities are a force to be reckoned with. But why have all that then top it off with poo rez. there must be a way to better sample the image. look at its s2 jpeg. tack sharp! true 1000 lines makes a hudge difference not only in natural sharpness but it grades way better too! if there is noise its much finer as well. Im not asking for 4444 sony f35 65 raw intense 3D core what ever just a naturally sharp images. And please why say 90mbs if more then half the time it sits at like 30 or so. It should have been ibp codec for (consumers or realy long shoots) and then a pro codec outside of h.264 but inside its processing power. oh boy another rant of mine. Im gunna get kicked out of here huh.   Again none of this i expect from ML. They have done plenty in my opinion.

Panasonic's thoughts on GH2 hacks:

- It's like a great car--you just want to soup it up and do even more with it.
Darin Pepple, Senior Product Marketing Manager, Imaging at Panasonic Consumer Electronics Co.

Thank you exactly!  And the gh2 resolves great as is! ugggg please canon! canon u imagine ML plus 5d3 plus 1000 lines---> joy overload! haha

I just see no point in releasing new cameras and not adding new features. Everyone else tries to push in their products. How can you push hardware and say screw it to software. We don't have to copy their code, the features would be implemented all different.

HDMI out should have been 1080p from the get go, otherwise why even spend the money on the HDMI processing and the connector. Just who needs not HDMI the way it is now? Its not just that you can't record from it, its that its just as blurry as the SD out. Even if they left off 4:2:2 they should still have kept it real size in idle. I don't think it will ever work while recording because of hardware limitations (esp, digic IV). We'll never be a C300 because the 30 minute limit appears hard-coded and the cameras overheat. The crop sensors and even the full frames aren't like a full professional camcorder. Genlock and things like that are also hard to implement within what the hardware can do. The DSLRs can only complement and moonlight as cinema cameras. 

In fact, C300 and others can't do what things like red/arri/bmcc can at lower/similar prices. 1DC will be their first effort but it seems a bit late. People are recording uncompressed from GH2 right now. How many GH2s + recorders can you buy for 1 5dIII? How can they be mad about features they don't have and don't really sell. CHDK gives raw to point and shoots and they're still selling the DSLRs. They need to give full HDMI to all cameras going back as far as 550D. 5dIII should be shooting 2k with full clean HDMI at the price its selling anything less and people will go elsewhere at this point unless their main focus is stills. But how long before that goes to nikon or someone else?

Yes 1000000000000000% agree! I should have waited to see reviews first. i was under the impression the all-i feature was gunna rock. oh well. Just a pro still cam to me. I really was hoping for more "pow!" from the 5d3. especialy after seeing what hd realy should look like. sorry but thats how i feel.

This is an interesting read by the way:
http://www.eoshd.com/content/9140/interview-with-canons-mike-burnhill-on-the-canon-1d-c-4k-dslr

I totaly agree with a1ex on this one. I am not deffinetly not looking to turn the 5d3 into a c300 tho. it just would have been nice for canon to have seperated from the pack lil and give the 5d3 1000 lines. even if it did it at super 35 crop. im not trying to badger canon cuz i like shooting with my 5d3 i just want to love shooting with it. the fact that il have to buy a recorder and batteries and rigging when i could be focusing on lenses is making me like it less. I think it would have much been wiser for canon just to focus on the in camera recording first. and im not asking these things of ML either im asking them of canon. If your going to put something in the works by april, canon, please let it be a better codec or something not just hdmi stuff. its a mini hdmi anyways and seems kinda scary to record off of. maybe im way out of line but it just seems there are more simple ways of pleasing the 5d3 crowd and this would drive there lense sales more too. 

JUST DONATED! Finaly ha ha im cheap

If canon is reading then they would be wise to add 1000 lines of hd (as advertised) to the 5d3 befor they add umcompressed hdmi. In april theyll tell you, in small print, that the hdmi only records to a special canon recorder that costs 15k. ugg canon makes me so frustrated right now. ML ROCKS!

Such as... cease and desist letters?

Then ML lovers everywhere will rally against the tryrant! jk
i know i know i realize my demands are not realistic im just spoiled now. and again I LOVE ML and i would not want that. Thank you again!

I wonder how much of this announcement (6 months in advance) has to do with the work you guys are doing.  Why not announce it just before launching it?  they were feeling the heat for sure. 

6 months tells me they are trying to figure it out, hope to bump up the sales and hold the sales towards other cameras BMC, the LEICA coming out around that time etc.

ML should just start posting all sorts of stuff. then canon will will have more announcments to make jk

They need to test it properly, not like us

yeah right alpha 2 is working great fro me! i plan to donate asap! also i believe that canon is feeling the heat from ML.

www.nikon.com

haha!

I read the announcment on canons site about clean uncompressed hdmi. but why april 2013! by then ML will probably have the 5d3 recording uncompressed to the cf card ha ha. April 2013 thats all they got? very lame in my opion.

i keep seeing all these benchmark tests and canon is for sure limiting the quality of of video from the 5d3. Unless im not understanding the tests correctly the 5d3 has some decent power. decent enought to resolve better anyways =( oh well. lovin the alpha 2 though!

So far every things working for me! Love it!
I have a question. Does the alpha version completely leave the camera when you turn it off. i have to send it into canon soon.

Yea! alpha 2! cant wait to try! so is the 5d3 skipping 2.3 goin into 2.4? or is it going to join the 2.3 club first?

So givin all the info on the benchmark tests being done, i asume the 5d3 is powerfull enough to handle true resolution of HD (at 2.35:1)

80+MB/s is really stinkin fast! (Doesnt 80MB/s = 640mbs? is this right?) Can it sustain this for more than a seconded or 2?

PLEASE correct me if im wrong.

If this is acurate then shame on canon for truely limiting this beast! (i know im sounding spoiled) Sounds like from this that theres plenty of processing speed  for canon to have included a 1080 mjpeg or something that resoves better. This makes me sad/excited all at once.

Thanks everyone for all your hard work! Once im more confident in my knowledge of software/firmware i will no dought be donating and running ML. I dont quite trust myself to test yet.

Clean hdmi? wait .... realy? Like external recorder clean or external monitor clean?

Sorry maybe im wrong but if your in movie mode and your not recording and you zoom in using canons focus assist, there seems to be decent detail. Remember that spot you focused on. Take an s2 jpeg(it will crop out at 1920x1080 if you shoot it in video mode) and take a 1080p all-i video (with zero in camera sharpening) . Bring both up in you editor. then zoom in on that same spot on both the s2 jpeg(1920x1080) and your 1080 video. Youll see a hudge difference and youll see what 1080 is suposed to look like.

You also notice that the detail you saw in the canon "focus assist" is in fact present in the s2 jpeg and not in the video.

I think what squig said is what the solution could be but man would that be a task. Dont know how these ML guys do it. I wouldnt even know where to start.

Im sorry i deffinetly dont mean to beat a dead horse just wish it was possible to see why this is.

i think ur right. the rez is there. you can see it when
u digitaly zoom in to focus. its also in even
the lower quality jpegs. then on the same image
in video mode the rez is gone. =(