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Hi All

  There are two new plugin sets available for MLV:

MediaReactor Lite for Avid
MediaReactor Lite for Adobe

They are both available for 99$ and contain plugins for multiple camera raw formats, mov quicktime without quicktime player and Panasonic/Sony MP4 support.  Trial licenses are also available


Hi All

  There is a new QuickTime component that support MLV and RAW available for 99$.  It works with the Adobe suite and any other QuickTime enabled software.  If you want to try it, you can download it from


Hi All

  There is a new update for MediaReactor Workstation for Windows 64 bit that improves handling of audio in multi part MLV files, and adds more support for multi part RAW (R00, R01) files.  It is available now at

As always, testers and suggestions are always welcome.

Cheers, James

What about Final Cut Pro X ? I still See no Support  >:( I thought you guy are working on a plugin !
Or have you Drop the plugin Idea all together, it seem Funny that you have support for fcp7 which is a obsolete apple program
but not for X . So it looks like a Dead end Street here for fcpx or any new apple product.
Hi Reddeercity,

  Unfortunately we have had only a couple of requests for FCP-X.  We are getting users and more requests on MediaComposer, Premiere, Scratch and NuCoda - but FCPX has been flat for ML requests, and other file reader requests.  We have the API/SDK for it, but without reasonable demand, we have not been able to allocate the programmers necessary to do the work.  I would not call it a dead end, but definitely a roadblock  :)  We do support Premiere, MediaComposer and Scratch on Mac, and we will add support for any other OS-X based program were there is reasonable demand.

Cheers, James

Thanks again to everyone using our plug in!  We have now added support for spanning raw files, as well as multi file MLV.  The updates can be downloaded from:

depending on which product you are using.  Please let us know if you find any other files or features that are not support in our software.

Cheers, James  :)

FYI All:  Thanks to 'The African Attachment' we have sorted out a Premiere/MediaComposer audio bug with the current version of MLV files.  The updates are up on our site:

Thanks, James

Id love to be involved in the beta
Hi JBowdach

  No problem.  Download and install DrasticPreview, DrasticPreview Pro or MediaReactor Workstation.  Generate a site code and email it to us.  We will send you a temporary key.

Cheers, James


Btw, it looks like Scratch has it's UI built from scratch. It's clunky and on the Mac it seems to lack the most basic OS integration. Full-screen only app that covers the dock, no menu bar. Strange custom widgets, clunky custom text input, ugly custom mouse pointers ... I feel sorry for the guy that needs to use this thing.

Oh yeah, pricing starts at 150$/day...
Hi Vroem

  Just a not on the UI:  it is in the style of 5d, Discreet Flame/Smoke, Baselight and other unix derived tools used in high end post production.  While it may seem clunky (or very different from other apps) initially, it is actually a very fast program to work in, once you are used to it, or if you have used other high end tools.  To each his (or her) own, but you might want to play with the free player.  It's pretty handy.

Cheers, James

Just downloaded their latest trial version for Mac (8.0.802). MLV Doesn't seem to work.

Btw, it looks like Scratch has it's UI built from scratch. It's clunky and on the Mac it seems to lack the most basic OS integration. Full-screen only app that covers the dock, no menu bar. Strange custom widgets, clunky custom text input, ugly custom mouse pointers ... I feel sorry for the guy that needs to use this thing.

Oh yeah, pricing starts at 150$/day...
Hi All

  You're just a bit early.  Scratch uses a version of Drastic's MediaReactor for their free 'CSP' add on.  They will be shipping the free MLV with audio/video support shortly, both in there grading product and in their free player with basic grading.  Granted, the grading tool is designed for big budget Hollywood films, but the free player is surprisingly useful for on set work.

Cheers, James

Hi Thisisentourage

  Was this a raw video?  I didn't know Vegas supported that.  If it is a normal compressed video, you probably need a different section to get an answer  :)

Cheers, James

Hi Infinitebuzz, are you giving up the idea of a MLV/RAW plugin ? :(
Hi Malex

  It is part of our full MediaReactor product, and in our DrasticPreview and DrasticPreview Pro project.  We are thinking of breaking it out and making a cheaper MLV/RAW only version.  Still not sure, but you can download MediaReactor Workstation if you want to try it.

Cheers, James

+1 buyer for that plugin with at least exposure control, white balance, highlight & shadow.

If it is possible for you to add this controls, would the settings stay there if we use directlink to Speedgrade for fine tuning color correction?

One other great feature would be synced audio with mlv+sound, (or maybe it does that already? I didn't try the demo so I don't know).

Patiently waiting with credit card.
Hi Malex

  That looks like its going to happen in the second release for ML and other raw formats.  Yes, I believe SpeedGrade reads through Premiere in this case (a link rather then a direct read).  With the audio, we will automatically pick up side bar WAV or AIFF files (from field recorders).  We have added some support for the audio in MLV, but we don't have any samples yet.  We are going to make some with our camera here, but we also want some from out of house, if anyone is willing to share.

Cheers, James

I know, I started that thread.   ???  I have a question for you, I am testing DMR in PPro and also DP.  Whenever I open Drastic Preview this is how it looks on my screen...

I'm running
Toshiba Satellite
Win 7 Ultimate x64 (SP1)
8 gigs ram
7200 rpm HD
GeForce GT 540 M GPU

Hi Duey101

  That is the legacy version of DrasticPreview.  It used DirectX or GDI to display the video, and is included with the current 'ClarionDT' version of DrasticPreview for older machines that do not have good OpenGL support.  There should be two links in your start menu

DrasticPreview Legacy

The second one should point here:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\DrasticPreview\DrasticPreview.exe"

and should like the interface on our web page

Cheers, James

so there is a potential for ~20 people buying it.
2k€ for making a version that "simply does" sounds reasonable.

if you get enough licenses sold, you can roll out an update as clean plugin solution afterwards.
Hi G3gg0

  That does sound like a good idea.  We are looking at making an install and license for just ML in Premiere, MediaComposer, QT, FCP7 (and X eventually).  I am currently travelling, but we should have a better idea when it will be available later this week.  We are also exploring the Premiere dialog option for all our raw types, including ML.  Thanks for all the comments and ideas.

Cheers, James

I think this poll would gain a better gauge of who's interested or not if it weren't apart of the Magic Lantern Forum for two main reasons.

1)There aren't a lot of people who know about this poll, which is only displayed here in this particular post.
2)There are guests of the forums that can't cast a vote.

I believe that a poll outside of the community that can be accessed from anywhere, without signup requirements, will allow for more observations of this question and more participation from others. There obviously must be some form of order to the poll such as one vote per IP address or something along those lines to maintain the integrity of the votes. I also think the features we discussed before should be incorporated somehow into the poll. Here's an example:

Example 1) Is a native Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin for your favorite NLE necessary to you? Yes or No

Example 2) Would you buy a Magic Lantern raw/mlv plugin, for your favorite NLE, with these features? (list features that would accompany the plugin) Yes or No

Just my thoughts.
That makes a lot of sense.  Also, there is no concept of cost in the poll above.  I am not sure the yes votes realize we are talking about a 99$ cost for the plug in.

Yes you right about the poll,
But my only interest is to see this plugin
Work in Final Cut Pro X 10.1.1,
Final Cut Pro 7 is dead. it's been  dead for
3 years now. I think you will get a better response
To this with fcpx users, just my thoughts .
We are still seeing FCP 7 in larger corporate environments.  FCP-X is a target, but we tend to be getting a lot more interest from Scratch/MC/Premiere users.  Certainly around NAB we will be shipping FCP-X.
Cheers, J

me too. but what about is the poll now? MLV-Support with some static settings per sequence?
I think it would be a two parter:
1.  Just MLV/RAW support for Premiere, FCP 7 and MediaComposer
2.  Settings dialog per clip in Premiere (and MediaComposer if possible)
Cheers, J

I second that. I'd like to cast a vote, please.
The poll just showed up at the top of the topic for me

What about support for other NLEs? Seems like everyone has creative cloud on the brain here. I would love native AMA support in Media Composer or something for FCP X (I realize FCP7 wouldn't have any use because of ProRes 4444 limitations).
Hi DJFremen
  We do support FCP 7, QuickTime and MediaComposer AMA.  FCP X is under development.  We also support Assimilate Scratch for finishing.

Cheers, James

Someone set up a poll already and let's find out.

I just hope that people answer honestly based on the what the plugin actually does and not what they wish it would do.
Where is the poll?  I can't see it in the raw forum

its, as infinitebuzz stated.. HOW MANY are we really? worth the work? Simple Calculations, if 200 are willing to buy this plugin, and every is paying 100 bucks, its 20.000$/€. thats even for a small company nearly just two months of paying costs, but coding/drilling hard a hell of a gem..

(i did a look into the sdk, for c++ i'm too clueless. BUT the big amount of already coded modules in ml could help)
mfg chmee
Certainly 200 would do it, if they are out there.  We need to look at the dialog stuff to see what we can add first.

Cheers, James

With the ACR, I had a look and the ACR path is custom in Adobe.  It is not available to plug in developers.  There is the ability to add a dialog which we could put our debayer parameters in:

red gain, blue gain, exposure, white point, black point, gamma and debayer method

We already convert from the bayer to 16 bit per component RGB, so there is lots of room for high lights and low light post processing.  I like the idea of a poll on the site, but it sounds like there is no point until there are more conversion controls.  I would like to know if ACR is a show stopper.  If it is, then only Adobe can implement it.

Cheers, James

What about a Media Reactor/MLV+RAW plugin only option?  Can you guys at Drastic do something like that?  Seems like a good idea.  You have tons of options it seems.  Just an idea.
Hi Duey101

  This is something we have talked about.  There is a discussion happening on this thread:

Our only concern is that we would do the work to split it out and no one would actually buy it

Cheers, James

I hear you chmee. If this company is going to charge $500 for a plugin it should be just as versatile as the R3D plugin that's native to Premiere. If you check this out (
) you'll see how similar color correcting R3D in Premiere is to color correcting CDNG in Lightroom, Photoshop and After Effects. This feature for MLV is worth $500 in my honest opinion. Keyframing is not worth $500. When MLV can be edited natively like R3D, Adobe Camera Raw, or something similar,  I'll be the next customer in line to purchase such a plugin for Premiere.
Hi All

  I'm one of the programmers on the plug ins.  I think there is some confusion re: the pricing.  The MediaReactor plug in was developed to allow access to real time play while recording, read access to file formats like GEN, HDR, Omneon, Lietch, Grass Valley, Pinnacle, HDCam, RMF, etc and export of broadcast and post formats.  The 500 was for all that, and we had a request from and OEM to add MLV and RAW which we did.  We then thought we would announce here in case anyone was interested.
  I completely agree that 500$ is too much if you are only doing MLV and/or RAW.  We have talked about a MLV/RAW only plug in at around 99$, but we were not sure it would be popular enough to be worth doing.  We are not looking at adding key frames or ACR at this point, so it would be as it is currently, without all the other formats.  Any and all comments would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers, James

Hi All

  The DrasticPreview and DrasticPreviewPro have been updated.  This fixes the pinkish tone introduced in the last release.  The MediaReactor Workstation fixes will be up shortly as well, and I'll update the thread.

Cheers, James

The matching MediaReactor Workstation for MediaComposer, Premiere, FCP, QuickTime, etc is now up as well:

Please let us know if you need trial licenses to test them.

Cheers, James

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