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HI all!

My EOS M 2.0.2 just arrived today. Anyway, I have to go shooting at a conert in view hours and would like to use the eos m as a static second cam.

Was reading this thread - but did not really got the info I needed. What is the best build for now, lets say the most stable? I am also very confused with two versions tragiclatern and magiclatern ? They have both versions for my eos m 2.0.2 . What is the difference... And is this install instruction still correct? => 

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3648.msg64830#msg64830


Thank you guys!

Andre


@enricobartolucci : nice setup of you cam. What viewfinder and handle did you use?

@blablabla32 : the hand grip is an old one I had at home with a 1/4 thread; these are very easy to find on ebay, the one I have is very simple but nice since it has a thread on the bottom too, so you can screw a small tripod as you can see on the picture. but you can go for some fancier stuff like this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HASSELBLAD-LEFT-HANDED-GRIP-/171152037683?pt=US_Camera_Straps_Hand_Grips&hash=item27d974d733

the viewfinder is a VERY cheap item you find on ebay - the only available viewfinder for the M as for now.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-8x-Viewfinder-3-LCD-V6-Extender-Magnifier-for-Canon-EOS-M-Mirrorless-US695-/221302596852?pt=US_Viewfinders_Eyecups&hash=item3386a9a4f4

it costs like 15 dollars and it is surprisingly well effective - well, for the price of course, but I am not disappointed, it's not a waste of money.
I am looking for a better one, though, and it looks like the best viable option should be the carryspeed VF3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLM2mL9PPE

they just updated it to the VF4,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ifuZK2o-U

which seems to be about the same but more expensive, so the 3 might be an intersting deal right now. I haven't seen it mounted on the M, so there is a possibility that it won't fit, but it really seems like it should fit perfectly - and the interesting thing is that you'll have access to the touchscreen without unmounting the viewfinder.

voilà, that's it ; if you're interested I can make a post about the audio gear, I've been making quite a lot of experimenting to find a system well suited for my needs and I'd be happy to share my experience with the community of M users - and of course, our heroic developers !

Actualy I don´t agree with point 1+2.
I´m using the M for professional video work too and I´m using the 18-55 more often than any other lens with the M. It depens on what you film under what light conditions.
Because the M is so small its perfect for putting it anywhere as the second cam like many people do with a gopro for example. Or let´s say if you do an interview and you need more choices for editing. Place the cam beside, zoom in until the picture fits and be ready for action in a few seconds.
Also if you have to be fast and flexible while filming on the go. It´s very usefull to use the 18-55 under those conditions because you don´t have a fisheye effekt (gopro in example 1), its small, light and doesn´t look professional which helpes some times with getting pictures you won´t get with big cams. Its because people change their behavior if they feel beeing filmed by professionals.
18-55 combined with the crop mode gives you a big range and makes it possible too to place yourself somewere in a corner and still make close ups without beeing noticed - perfect for documentary use. And so on ...
To say it short - there are tons of situations were the 18-55 could be a good choice to use - if there is no shutter bug!

For me there is nothing wrong with the focus peaking. I use it all the time and it works perfect for me (the overlay one) together with zebra in any situation. If I do "real" filming like image films (with other lenses than the 18-55 or also other cams) or other work as mentioned before.
So, I´m pleased with it.

Yes, focus peaking works, but it works better on the mark II, even though the screen is bigger and better on the M. I often find myself guessing about the focus with the M, but maybe it's just me...
concerning the 18-55, there's no point in starting a thread about lenses; of course the shutterbug is an issue, I'm just saying that as far as video work is concerned, the shutterbug isn't really the most appalling problem.

hello everybody
once again, I'd like to give  the point of view of a professional videomaker on the porting of ML on the EOS M, hoping it will be useful to our valiant developers.
first of all, thanks to you all for your work, since the M powered with ML is potentially, in my opinion, the best HD video option on the market for canon lens owners, for a ridiculous price.

so, let's get to the point

1 FOCUS PEAKING
it works, it is usable, but I find it much more effective and easy to use on my mark II than on the M, is that normal? is there something you can do about it? this is my (and I think, all filmmaker's) first concern about the M.

2 SHUTTERBUG
in my opinion, not a priority. if you shoot video (and this is what ML is all about, isn't it?) you couldn't care less about this. M mount lenses have unpractical focus rings and are not so interesting for video, (especially the 18-55, not fast enough and without constant aperture, which makes it in real use an f5.6 lens...).
I personally shoot with my old nikon AIS lenses, which found new life after a ten years' sleep in a box. EOS M, EF adapter, nikon/canon ring and a set of old manual lenses which I modify so that I have a clickless aperture ring. a handle, a viewfinder and you have a digital bolex on a shoestring.

3 RAW !!!
well, I understand the technical interest of the thing, but let's look at the facts: if you shoot raw, your workflow is time-consuming, cumbersome, labour-intensive and then extremely expensive. if you have this kind of budget, you will not shoot with an EOS M.
the real game-changer would be PRORES, but I guess that is not possible, is it?

here'a link to a few pictures of the camera in my bolex-like setting, without any audio gear attached


http://www.enricobartolucci.fr/ESPACE+CLIENTS/MISC/eos+m

you can press the right arrow (the right side of the wheel) to switch between controlling the aperture and the shutter adjustment. I have requested that they change the way this is displayed since we never know which mode will be adjusted. I constantly keep having to try it and see which mode changes and then readjust it if it was on the wrong one from what I wanted. The Canon display is nice with the green marks above either the aperture or shutter indicating which one is active.

Gary

thanks gary, I hadn't done enough fiddling around to find the right key !

Hi everybody
this is my first message on this forum ; I am a professional photographer and filmmaker based in paris. I've been using magic lantern on my markII since 2009, when hero trammel hudson first pulled this crazy reverse engeneering stunt turning the markII into a revolutionary filmmaking tool.
so, first I want to thank him and all the developers who have taken on the project and given us this incredible tool.
I have been donating to the project to keep it going, and I'll go on doing so, since I have been using ML professionally and I can't be grateful enough to the people who gave their time and talent to develop it.
now, I've just bought the eos m, which is now an incredible deal due to canon's short-sighted marketing strategy, and I think that - once powered with a stable ML release - it is maybe the ultimate independent filmmaking tool, the only real competitor to the blackmagic pocket CC - for one fourth of the price...
now, i've installed the last version of ML on my eos m; it has several stability problems and I can't get the focus peaking to work, but these are obviously fixable problems. what is more annoying is that once you are in video mode and you have the ML interface on, the rear wheel only changes the shutter speed, and not the iris - I tried to figure out how to fix this, but I couldn't, so here I am asking for help. the only way to do this seems to switch to the canon interface and change the iris value from there, or from the ML menu, but this is impossible to do while shooting.
THEN I think I can contribute to the developmental effort by posting some sort of a professional's whishlist, i.e. ALL the features and ONLY the features somebody who needs to use the camera as a professional filmmaking tool needs.
here they are, then

1 first and foremost: focus  peaking, as efficient as possible. this is absolutely necessary; this camera cannot be seriously used unless focus peaking works properly. all the other focus gimmicks are of no real  filmmaking interest and can be dropped.

2 obviously : zebra stripes. but this already works.

3 direct iris control from the rear wheel while shooting. mandatory. I will note here that canon made a great improvement on the M, since the iris change is very smooth, very cinema-like, while on the mark II there is a very noticeable click - it is almost a markII signature...

4 audio monitoring working all the time - but I'll put this at the end of the list, since if you're shooting professionnally you'll have a field mixer to amplify the signal and monitor audio levels, plus a separate WAV recorder, and will only use the in-camera sound as a sync tool. Having said that, I read that the M records uncompressed PCM audio, so maybe a separate audio recordind and post-sync might be unnecessary. I'll have to make tests but if it's really the case then the eos m really is my daddy now.

that's about it, I guess. of course raw recording is an interesting feature, but of no real interest for the documentary filmmaker - the workflow becoming then almost unmanageable. if you really want to have a better image quality you might rather get a separate PRORES recorder, like the one from blackmagic, but going raw is only reasonable if you are shooting commercials of music video, or a theatrical feature, and in my opinion the eos m is not the best option for this kind of productions.

of course I'm not saying these are the only important  features for any user, I'm just pointing out which are the features that matter to somebody who wants to shoot professional video with the eos M.
I think once these features are implemented and stable, documentary filmmakers will realize that the eos M is a real game changer, making high quality independent filmmaking available for everyone - for such a ridiculous price!