would the 5d m3 version work with firmware 1.2.3?

Started by linbs, November 13, 2013, 05:04:54 AM

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linbs

can I install ML on 5d m3 with the firmware version 1.2.3?

kgv5

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Badhor

Hello,

is it possible to install ML on 1.1.3 and upgrade afterwards to a newer firmware? Maybe 1.2.3? Or will this "delete" ML?
Maybe that question is too obvious but i did not understand that completly...

Thank You!

chris_overseas

Quote from: Badhor on November 13, 2013, 11:26:43 AM
Hello,

is it possible to install ML on 1.1.3 and upgrade afterwards to a newer firmware? Maybe 1.2.3? Or will this "delete" ML?
Maybe that question is too obvious but i did not understand that completly...

Thank You!

If you want to use ML you need to be running 1.1.3. You can upgrade from 1.1.3 to 1.2.3 but you will no longer be able to use ML.

Before downgrading to 1.1.3 and installing MagicLantern make sure you understand the consequences of enabling the BootFlag (this topic is covered extensively elsewhere in these forums, do a search).
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Tikigod19

As a bit of a newbie can I just chime in to ask if this understanding of the bootflag thing is correct..

You have to go to firmware and update until magic lantern installs every time you reboot the camera? Is that correct?  How long does this take? Would you expect that we won't ALWAYS have to do this?

RenatoPhoto

Quote from: Tikigod19 on November 23, 2013, 08:30:32 PM
You have to go to firmware and update until magic lantern installs every time you reboot the camera? Is that correct?  How long does this take?
You do this with the Alpha version.  It takes a few seconds.

Quote from: Tikigod19 on November 23, 2013, 08:30:32 PM
Would you expect that we won't ALWAYS have to do this?
Yes with the Alpha version.  But no if you set the bootflag on the camera which cannot be un-done

Please read the forum:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5520.0
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Tikigod19

Thank you so much for the link, I think all is clear now..

So it's a) install alpha, no raw, have to do firmware every time you turn the camera off

Or

B) set bootflag which increases wakeup time to 2 sec but means you don't need to install each time (I'llalso get raw vvideo access?)

I'm actually not bothered in raw at all but not sure if it'll devalue the camera by increasing the boot up Time. MMight be better for me personally to use alpha.. Is it any more or less stable than the raw version? Stability is crucial to me..

Pelican

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Tikigod19

So that means the existing options aren't stable?

Stedda

It means there's no garantee.

Your options are Alphas and Nightlies there is no official finished release version. Your combination of setting may create a bug or may work fine.. thats the risk.
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RenatoPhoto

Quote from: Tikigod19 on November 23, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
So that means the existing options aren't stable?
For my personal use they are very stable.  Test and decide for yourself.
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Tikigod19

I appreciate the replies guys. I only have 4 or 5 weddings to film between now and April next year so I think I'll do those without ML to play it safe and hope a stable release is out by then. As long as one is being worked on and is looking likely then I'm happy... If it's not.. I really regret buying the mkiii!

Tikigod19

Another question regarding stability..

At a wedding the ceremony and speeches are the two key moments for me in terms of stability, I can't afford a lock up or failure. If I were to save 2x CF cards (do I install ML on the cf card or do I install it on a single SD card and just change CF card to record video to) without ML installed, and just switch before speeches and ceremony, would my cam be just as stable as it would if I'd never installed ML in the first place?

edit: I've just read its ok to install ML to sd and record video to CF. In that case, would I just need to remove the SD card to boot without ML and guarantee stability?

One more question.. in this dvxuser ML raw guide (http://www.dvxuser.com/guides/ml_raw_guide_5DIII_full.pdf)

it says "5. In the Canon menus, set your photo mode to JPEG/S3 only (turn off RAW photo shooting). This frees up memory in
the camera, allowing for more Magic Lantern mojo to happen
in video mode."

Is that only necessary if shooting raw? I wont ever use raw but would really prefer to leave raw photo mode switched on incase I start taking photos and forget..

Stedda

I put ML files on the SD Card and do as you say swapping out the CF cards. Be sure to shut the camera down first.

And changing to JPG on 5D III does nothing for Raw recording...
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Tikigod19

ok so you mean its fine to leave raw turned on for image settings?

How about just shutting down the cam and removing the SD card with ML installed. When I then boot up, will the camera boot without magic lantern? (albeit take 2 secs longer to start up?) and be as reliable as it can be?

Stedda

Yes leave Raw as your photo settings.

Camera works just fine with no SD Card.
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Tikigod19

fantastic, sounds perfect then. And this is the correct procedure to follow?

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10352


Stedda

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Pelican

Quote from: Tikigod19 on November 27, 2013, 09:55:10 AM
Another question regarding stability..
I don't understand if anyone prefers stability why even think about to use alpha stage software...
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Tikigod19

Quote from: Pelican on November 27, 2013, 06:47:06 PM
I don't understand if anyone prefers stability why even think about to use alpha stage software...

Well the stability is only crucial for 2 hours of an 8 Hour filming day. So if i can turn off ML at these points and then leave it on for the rest of the day when I short 10 second clips all day then it's fine. What's the worst that can happen.. I'll lose one ten second clip? Or will ML go down all guns blazing and spectacularly format my card? (that's not sarcasm, that's a question!)


Walter Schulz

Worst cases:
Bricking the cam. May be usable as counterweight.
Eating the card is an option, too. Eating as in digestion: Not usable anymore. Unreadable, unformatable. If there is such a word.