Canon 80D

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Walter Schulz


kitor



After a quick test I have a bad stub or two (tasks view doesn't display names properly[1], in LV our menu closes almost instantly[2]), other than that seems on par with 750D.
That was a quick (< 3 hour) job after i learned how to use Ghidra Version Tracking, thanks to @reyalp.

Ok, it took a week prior to that as I took the opportunity to create a proper loader script for Ghidra that should improve ghidra project quality a lot. More on that later.

E:
[1] Turns out one of task related structs is different.
[2] Fixed, wrong Canon dialog used in background.
Too many Canon cameras.
If you have a dead R or RP mainboard (e.g. after camera repair) and want to donate for experiments, I'll cover shipping costs.

Theta Sigma

Thanks for your work. I look forward to more posts about 80D ML development. :)

mcortes

Kitor thank you so much. I'm very excited to see this and can't wait to get some more life from my old canon 80d.

chchrlam

Thanks Kitor. Looking forward to your next post.

papajo

Quote from: kitor on April 27, 2023, 08:16:41 AM

After a quick test I have a bad stub or two (tasks view doesn't display names properly[1], in LV our menu closes almost instantly[2]), other than that seems on par with 750D.
That was a quick (< 3 hour) job after i learned how to use Ghidra Version Tracking, thanks to @reyalp.

Ok, it took a week prior to that as I took the opportunity to create a proper loader script for Ghidra that should improve ghidra project quality a lot. More on that later.

E:
[1] Turns out one of task related structs is different.
[2] Fixed, wrong Canon dialog used in background.

Hi Kitor I bought a Canon 80D back when it was newly released and anxiously waited for years for a magic lantern version for my camera the years passed by and nothing but I am still using my 80D

And apparently so are other people too


When I first saw your posts about trying out the firmware on the 80D I was happy like as if I was a child on Christmas  :D

But a year has passed and no new posts on the subject from you or any other dev

So I went to discord and asked about it and they told me that there never will be a 80D version of magic lantern

And I wonder if this is true or if you just don't had the time to finish your work but plan to eventually

Could you please update us of your intentions about the 80D firmware ?

Also is the 80D for some reason (if so which ? ) hard to "crack" and put magic lantern on it? I am asking because I think quite a few models got magic lantern a lot sooner than 80D
And 80D is a really good camera for both amateurs and even professionals (aside it not being FF ) so I can't see why it's so much neglected.. :(

kitor

Quote from: papajo on April 28, 2024, 08:22:05 PMSo I went to discord and asked about it and they told me that there never will be a 80D version of magic lantern

Who said that?

Quote from: papajo on April 28, 2024, 08:22:05 PMCould you please update us of your intentions about the 80D firmware ?
There are no intentions. Digic 6 is just hard to get working due to its unique design. It is just easier in later models running Digic 7 and 8.
Remember this is just a hobby project of a few people. We work on it when we feel like it, and work on what we want. I have a pile of 10+ Canon cameras and tbh I favour EOS R as it was my re-entry into Canon ecosystem - and also my entry into Magic Lantern / camera hacking world.

Quote from: papajo on April 28, 2024, 08:22:05 PMI think quite a few models got magic lantern a lot sooner than 80D

Then you are wrong - right now they exist just two "builds" of Magic Lantern for newer models: one for EOS M50 - which does nothing except card benchmark. And one for 200d which also doesn't have almost any features - it was released as a proof of concept that project is still alive.

I think you should get familiar with Current state of Magic Lantern project. This will answer many of your questions.


Too many Canon cameras.
If you have a dead R or RP mainboard (e.g. after camera repair) and want to donate for experiments, I'll cover shipping costs.

Walter Schulz

Quote from: kitor on April 30, 2024, 10:11:42 PMWho said that?

Well, if taken literally: You. https://discord.com/channels/671072748985909258/844581352082898975/1206757404230942721

Let's taken it for granted papajo is not accustomed dealing with questions to engineers/programmers and mind set embedded in their answers. ;-)

papajo

First of all thank you for your response also I am sorry if  I seemed abrupt or for some things that didn't get through as I thought, it is because I am not a native English speaker.

Quote from: kitor on April 30, 2024, 10:11:42 PMWho said that?

I can't remember his handle cause this discussion was months ago or at least a few weeks but I think he avatar had a joker face (from some cartoon version of the Batman series) and posts a lot or at least he did wen I went to discord.

Quote from: kitor on April 30, 2024, 10:11:42 PMThere are no intentions. Digic 6 is just hard to get working due to its unique design. It is just easier in later models running Digic 7 and 8.
Remember this is just a hobby project of a few people. We work on it when we feel like it, and work on what we want. I have a pile of 10+ Canon cameras and tbh I favour EOS R as it was my re-entry into Canon ecosystem - and also my entry into Magic Lantern / camera hacking world.

Yes I understand that and I am not entitled or something it's just that since I saw your posts I got my hopes up but after a year I didn't see any other progress+ the discord "confirmation" I got for it never being released that made me ask you in person since maybe that guy's reply might have been just his opinion

When I used the word "intentions" I meant if that guy from discord was right saying that you quit the efford or if you feel like it would be plausible for you to get back at it some time.

Thanks also for mentioning that the digic 6 is has a unique design that hinders the porting sounds interesting and I will research more on that.

Also I respect your stance about wanting to focus more on R series and obviously I don't want to give you directions or anything with what I'm about to say but I just want to share my opinion which is that mirrorless cameras getting updated more frequently now and substantially because they are the new tech...
But DSLR cams don't get the same firmware attention and also have a lot more "juice" to squize out of them cause (given the capabilities added "post mortem" for cameras as old as e.g the 50D) their features plausibly were undercut by canon so that they not "eat up" sales from the more expensive models in the same line.

So in that sense getting magic lantern for older models will produce more "bang for the buck" where "bang" is the gap given by increased capabilities compared to stock firmware and "buck" the time an engineer gives to port magic lantern to it.

Again just my piece of mind I don't try to imply or assert something.

Quote from: kitor on April 30, 2024, 10:11:42 PMThen you are wrong - right now they exist just two "builds" of Magic Lantern for newer models: one for EOS M50 - which does nothing except card benchmark. And one for 200d which also doesn't have almost any features - it was released as a proof of concept that project is still alive.

I think you should get familiar with Current state of Magic Lantern project. This will answer many of your questions.




I meant the magic lantern version was ready in less time (since a camera's release counting up to when it got a magic lantern version ready for it ) I didn't specifically mention "camera models newer than 80d"

If it seemed like that I'm sorry as I said I'm not a native English speaker and I usually post to forums a little bit before going to bed  :P

Thanks again for taking the time to respond  :)

P.S @mods would it possible for me not to have to paste that 3 line text security question along with the handle etc cause I have to log out because somehow if I log in with one browser in my tablet and check to "keep me logged in" I am some how logged in any other browser I have too and the same goes for logging off...

Now for example I was writing my reply in chrome and opened Firefox (where I never logged into your forum from there before ) and I was already logged in, I logged out in order to select the account creation option and copy the huge text "I am no spammer etc etc ..."

And that lead to me not being able to post on chrome cause it logged me off from there too and I had to rewrite the entire reply on my tablet with my thumbs which was mentally and physically exhausting thanks 👍

names_are_hard

Hi, that was me on Discord.

This is just a misunderstanding.  You asked how long it would take for 80D to be finished.  I told you the predicted time was currently "never", because nobody was currently working on it.

I didn't mean to imply "there never will be a 80D version of magic lantern".  But until somebody does work on it again, it will make no progress.  So what answer can I give to the question?