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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3600 on: October 19, 2019, 04:13:43 AM »
Would it be possible to upgrade or increase the size of the image buffer memory? would this allow 3k shooting?

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3601 on: October 20, 2019, 03:46:18 PM »
Used this build for 2 days without problems, but no extensive testing
After starting the cam with the Oct 17 build today, it crashed.
There was a note to report the crash to ML- devs. Then Error 70 was presented and cam shut down
here are the logs and my settings folder
https://we.tl/t-IRY4rMOaYb
(link active until the Oct 27th)

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You are on the PAL setting. I'm on NTSC @ 24fps setting, but this got changed after reboot to 30fps
ML is then reporting 23,xxx fps

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3602 on: October 20, 2019, 05:46:28 PM »
Thanks for logs. There is some start up log which seems pretty interesting. I can't understand what to look for or if it's important but maybe a1ex will have a look. Hopefully.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3603 on: October 22, 2019, 01:15:24 AM »
Ive got crashes during startup as well, recent version and error 70 , and i figured out when it happens , its ISO climb feature thats causing this , i tested it right now, so:
-  i have fps override on
- lv digic peaking sharpening on
- histogram on
 pretty much thats it, mcm rewire 16:9, 12 bits , shutter 41, white balance 4800,magenta 3+.
But the issue is within ISO climb feature, why? Set it to 200, record then stop, then go to ISO 100 with trash button, record, stop and turn camera off then on...
Voilla - error and crash.
It was suspicious that it happened mostly when i used iso climb to go down.Im surprised no one picked up on that yet.
- Now i tested with just histogram on (without fps override and digic lv peaking) got error again when iso climbing and powering on again.
- tested without histogram, still happened, maybe not everytime but it happens after iso climbing.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3604 on: October 22, 2019, 05:27:39 AM »
Once I had a 70 error. The same configuration inspired by ZEEK. I switched from ISO 800 to ISO 400. The error was only once after the reboot. I record the rest of the material for ISO 400 and maybe that is why the error did not return. A concert was recorded. 20-second fragments with camera off.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3605 on: October 22, 2019, 07:18:58 AM »
New version:
https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=9741.msg208959#msg208959

- Changed iso updating on restart. Trying to fix occasional crashes

@2blackbar, @yokashin, please test and try to crash this version.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3606 on: October 22, 2019, 11:21:36 AM »
I tested it , recorded over 20 times climbing iso up/down and had 0 errors/crashes when restarting, so it looks like You fixed it for good ! Thats great !  :D
Ah and i used this link if someone wants to test it:
https://bitbucket.org/Dannephoto/magic-lantern/downloads/crop_rec_4k_mlv_snd_raw_only_2019Oct22.EOSM202.zip

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3607 on: October 22, 2019, 02:00:54 PM »
That's good news. Updated my broken link.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3608 on: October 23, 2019, 03:34:57 PM »
Hello

First of all - as a new user I'd like to really thank everybody here and especially maintainers and veterans for their tremendous efforts! This is so incredible...

I have just updated for the latest version and can also help testing stuff - I have EOS M 2.0.2 and Feelworld F6 PLUS external monitor, which does work with 1080i and different 170 and 95 speed SunDisk Extreme PRO SD Cards.
I'll test pink frames with monitor and FPS override more today and will report if they are gone as well as others say...

Stuff that clearly does not work is focus peaking (on external monitor).

I'm IT person and can do custom tests and do advanced stuff so if my input could be useful - I'd be glad for that. Going to buy a second EOS M this week )))

Thanks again!!!!

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3609 on: October 24, 2019, 12:00:37 AM »
Hi guys, I saw we can't use EOS M using EOS Remote because Canon disabled it :(

But is there a way to use Intervalometer, and connect EOS M to PC and just scrap content from SD card? When I connect cam to PC it goes to pPC share mode by default and shutter is disabled.  Could something like that be done with ML firmware?

Also what is best branch on bitbucket to fork from form EOS M?

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3610 on: October 24, 2019, 01:13:04 AM »
Is it possible to record audio on any of the raw settings? I know the more demanding presets like Ana etc. you can't, but is it possible mv1080 or 2.5k? I ask because I rarely see sound brought up in recent builds and the videos people post are silent.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3611 on: October 24, 2019, 03:57:25 AM »
Yes it is, use MCM Rewire 14bit and you have sound.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3612 on: October 24, 2019, 05:04:25 AM »
Is it possible to record audio on any of the raw settings? I know the more demanding presets like Ana etc. you can't, but is it possible mv1080 or 2.5k? I ask because I rarely see sound brought up in recent builds and the videos people post are silent.

I personally find the audio SUPERB, even just the on board mic. here is an older build test that has a lot of good raw audio, what blew me away was all the nature sounds I was capturing while not even thinking twice about it while out shooting. If I ever needed some nature sound fx, I would be comfortable with the M getting the job done. lol
  

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3613 on: October 24, 2019, 05:41:04 AM »
I personally find the audio SUPERB, even just the on board mic. here is an older build test that has a lot of good raw audio, what blew me away was all the nature sounds I was capturing while not even thinking twice about it while out shooting. If I ever needed some nature sound fx, I would be comfortable with the M getting the job done. lol

Great vid, thanks. I can sympathize with Donnie sometimes trying to catch up with all the ML info ; )

thanks guys

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3614 on: October 25, 2019, 07:50:22 PM »
I always hear about these 4.5k 3x anaamoprphic modes - but it seems like they are a little bit cropped, as the sensor has 5184 width resolution.

Would it be it possible to get a 5.2K or 5.1K anamorphic mode? I understand this would require some vertical crop, could it be done and still have a decent aspect ratio? @Danne

Or maybe something inbetween...

Also is is possible to move the anamorphic frame around the sensor?
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3615 on: October 25, 2019, 08:36:15 PM »
Would it be it possible to get a 5.2K or 5.1K anamorphic mode? I understand this would require some vertical crop, could it be done and still have a decent aspect ratio? @Danne
Yes, there is also a full sensor anamorphic preset, but only at 18fps (if I remember right). You won't get more data on the card in time. That is also why the 23.98fps anamorphic presets don't use full sensor width: too much data, what ends in corrupted frames.

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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3616 on: October 25, 2019, 08:53:11 PM »
Yes, there is also a full sensor anamorphic preset, but only at 18fps (if I remember right). You won't get more data on the card in time. That is also why the 23.98fps anamorphic presets don't use full sensor width: too much data, what ends in corrupted frames.

Yay! 18FPS should be fine for shots I want to use it for. It limited to 10 bit? I would like to use 12 bit if possible. And is it compressed? (I ordered an EOSM)

Also what is the widest crop mode resolution? Can it get 2880x1080 or more? I know it can do 2520x1400, so maybe it can do something like 2880x1200?
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3617 on: October 25, 2019, 09:03:32 PM »
So we can already say "welcome to the M gang"?
You can choose any bitdepth and it is compressed, but the internal memory is way smaller than in 5D2. So it stops very soon or produces corrupted pink frames when you record too much data. For maximum cropmode resolution I am not sure...
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3618 on: October 25, 2019, 09:57:18 PM »
So we can already say "welcome to the M gang"?
So excited to be joining the M gang. (once it arrives in the mail)

You can choose any bitdepth and it is compressed, but the internal memory is way smaller than in 5D2. So it stops very soon or produces corrupted pink frames when you record too much data. For maximum cropmode resolution I am not sure...

Glad you can choose bitdepth (From a recent zeek video I got the impression that it only lets you use 10 bit). And glad that it has compression. I just about the crop resolution question as I seem to remember seeing a video on youtube at 3000x1200 or something like that (could be a memory issue in my head).

Also how long does 4.5k normally record for? I'll try not to ask any more questions until I get it (too excitinnnh).
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3619 on: October 25, 2019, 10:15:19 PM »
Hehe, welcome aboard Ilia3101.
Full sensor is 14fps 10bit. 12fps when 12bit. But enable set25fps and it boosts fps to 16 or 18 can't remember atm. It will then be doing 2.39:1 though.
All modes are continuous when selected from tap display list. There are plenty presets to play around with so feel free to test and ask more once your eosm baby arrives :).

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« Reply #3620 on: October 25, 2019, 10:37:47 PM »
Hell yeah baby @Ilia3101 welcome to the club!
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3621 on: October 25, 2019, 10:45:56 PM »
Congrats Ilia on the purchase!  8)
Thanks to Danne & the ML Team, 5K rewired is awesome! 10-bit is the best if you want continuous recording using that mode with Ratio "on" @1464x1836, 23.972fps [2.39:1 or other] or ratio off @1736x2178, 18fps, 2.39:1 or other]. You can select 14 bit but you won't get as much recording time unless you dial the resolution back. Its also nice to have a full frame dslr and mirroless camera, good combo! I know MSAC also has these two which is cool!

@Danne
With ratio set to OFF in 5K Rewired @1736x2178 I can get 23.97fps using fps override, the only issue though is that it freezes in the live view.  ::) :'(
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3622 on: October 25, 2019, 11:14:06 PM »
Thanks every1!

EOS M club is very nice.

All modes are continuous when selected from tap display list.

Now this is impressive! Very nice to the users.

Congrats Ilia on the purchase!  8)
Thanks to Danne & the ML Team, 5K rewired is awesome! 10-bit is the best if you want continuous recording using that mode with Ratio "on" @1464x1836, 23.972fps [2.39:1 or other] or ratio off @1736x2178, 18fps, 2.39:1 or other]. You can select 14 bit but you won't get as much recording time unless you dial the resolution back. Its also nice to have a full frame dslr and mirroless camera, good combo! I know MSAC also has these two which is cool!

Oh yeah me and masc Have same cameras now :D 10 bit is great for continuous, but I don't shoot that kind of stuff really. I prefer 12 bit, I found 10 bit very often has shadow artifacts unless you expose perfectly. And I never really use 14 bit, 12 bit looks identical to me.

@Danne
With ratio set to OFF in 5K Rewired @1736x2178 I can get 23.97fps using fps override, the only issue though is that it freezes in the live view.  ::) :'(

Wow this is nice to know. I don't care about liveview anyway :D I have been shooting mostly with mostly broken liveview and no playback anyway.
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3623 on: October 26, 2019, 01:22:13 AM »
I'm confused by the 2 ratio options, ie. One in the video tab and then the one in the raw video menu. Is there anywhere I can read up on this to help explain how they relate to each other?

I'm super stoked with the 5k full sensor readout. Have been playing around with getting some super high res time-lapses with a low fps override and setting the resolution to off on the video tab, and pushing the resolution to max and 16:9 in the raw video menu. It yields a final resolution of 5208 X 2928 in MlvApp with all focus pixels dealt with automatically. Exporting to true 5k aspect ratio of 5120x2880 to ProRes looks superb or cinema dngs for further manual processing in Lightroom. Winner!!
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Re: Canon EOS M
« Reply #3624 on: October 26, 2019, 06:38:44 AM »
Most presets will work with 12bit. I reduce resolution a bit when 12bit selected. Not sure exactly which presets though.
Mcm rewired works with full 14bit.