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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1500 on: May 16, 2013, 11:14:15 PM »
Speed for me went from 38.5 to 35ish

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1501 on: May 16, 2013, 11:16:43 PM »
Speed for me went from 38.5 to 35ish

I think that was when shooting 1536x640

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1502 on: May 16, 2013, 11:30:27 PM »
- With "[113] Wav fixes.zip":
1504x600@24p: 34.6MB/s
frame drops after 1050 frames/around 1.55GB

- With "raw_rec.mo - 4 buffers, no worries"
1504x600@24p: 36.1MB/s
continuous recording, no frame drop, only 1st star is blinking
4 x 30MB buffers displayed

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1503 on: May 16, 2013, 11:33:09 PM »
Shit I dunno, I've tried everything besides going back to the old way.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1504 on: May 16, 2013, 11:42:02 PM »
Deep breath... have a coke and clear that mess !  8)

Problem is in raw_rec.mo, it's the only thing i changed.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1505 on: May 17, 2013, 12:06:40 AM »
[113] HDR Raw.zip: 34.8MB/s
1504x600@24p: frame drops after 1050 frames 1.631GB
55 frame drops for a 4GB file
No synch beep
Playback in black & white working ! waoooo (need press shutter release or AF-ON to stop it)

FREE MEMORY: 450K + 2077K
It was 450K + 2154K with "raw_rec.mo - 4 buffers, no worries"

Shoot malloc contig and total are the same: 30 and 152MB
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1506 on: May 17, 2013, 12:19:02 AM »
So sync beep stopped working? Still beeps for me.

There are 3 memories:

Malloc - like 400-800k
allocatemem - where ML loads and that 2M value...
shoot malloc - where the buffers are. now I think you can't see free anymore because it crashes. maybe it means 0 free :)

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1507 on: May 17, 2013, 12:26:31 AM »
Synch beep is playing but it's a "shttt", definatly no a "beep".
Like an aborted beep
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1508 on: May 17, 2013, 12:32:06 AM »
Weird... check settings in beep. Sounds the same here.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1509 on: May 17, 2013, 12:32:45 AM »
Just for my info, what's in the MAGIC.SYM file ?
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1510 on: May 17, 2013, 12:33:39 AM »
All of symbols for canon and ml functions, etc.

Open it with a text editor to see.

Also wondering... sandisk 128gb or 64gb... any rate difference?

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1511 on: May 17, 2013, 12:35:03 AM »
The test tones seems working fine.
The beep is a 1/5 sec "shtt"

For the Sandisk, i've read tests saying the 64GB would be better than the 32GB.
I wouldn't be surprise. If you read SSD tests sometimes, 128GB are often faster than 64GB
Can't say about the 128 yet.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1512 on: May 17, 2013, 12:40:29 AM »
Change it to sine and change the KHZ to modify it. I guess it does kinda make the shit sound... its the default ML beep forever.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1513 on: May 17, 2013, 12:44:10 AM »
Sine + 1760Hz works: welcome back to the beep !
Thanks

Next SD card i ll try is the Toshiba, annoncing 60MB/s write speed:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TOSHIBA-EXCERIA-SDXC-TYPE-2-64GB-SD-XC-UHS-I-CLASS-10-64G-64-G-GB-95MB-SEC-NEW-/330877223154?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_PDAsAccessories_MemoryCards&hash=item4d09d1c0f2

They even have a EXCERIA I announcing 90MB/s write speed ! But now we are sure it's useless on 6D...

But if you read my last posts, i bench the Sandisk Extreme pro to +80MB/s write speed in a USB3 reader so...
I don't plan getting higher write speed from SD card.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1514 on: May 17, 2013, 12:50:55 AM »
Wow, this card is cheap.... I hope its not only for 208Mhz.

Ok, maybe type 1 is for 208 and type 2 is for 100

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1515 on: May 17, 2013, 12:55:02 AM »
The version II was released march 2012 so i think it's more modest (and cheap !): 60MB/s would be perfect price/perf for the 6D.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1516 on: May 17, 2013, 01:08:28 AM »
If it does any better than 40MB/s then its winner.

The type 1 2 says 90 read/write?


Too bad all of these are in HK... would get here in like 3 weeks.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1517 on: May 17, 2013, 01:13:07 AM »
Yes but for that price tag.... you can only have a good surprise (write speed)
or a good 64 GB card for photos !
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1518 on: May 17, 2013, 03:57:26 AM »
Perhaps good news for Moiré issue with 6D.... needs testing !

When importing DNG sequence in After Effect, it uses Camera Raw.... so same tools are available than in LightRoom....
You can create a filter to apply to the whole frame and... push the anti-moiré slider to the right.
In my "threes in the wind" sample, Moiré is just gone !

Of course, this kind of filter applied on the entire frame and all frames can change all colors so....
need deep testing to see if after this anti-moiré filter we can still color grade enough...

update: Good for moiré, but still aliasing to be treated...

Like your style  8) Didn't think of doing it that way. Basically a MUCH much easier version of what I was attempting with Gaussian Bluring Chroma so scrap my idea. Works great anyway so props dude!

As for the aliasing "stepping" been having great results with "SK Staircase Suppress" from the RE:Vision Smoothkit bundle. It works by intelligently bluring aliasing artifacts so of course it's not ideal as it softens the image so only used if necessary but most of the sharpness can be regained by adding an "unsharp mask" or "sharpening" filter in AE.

Again - not a perfect solution but for my money (and I'm a real anal bastard when it comes to quality) I would rather have this image with all the benefits of higher color data and dynamic range retention than having h.264 anyday and I'd also rather have a slightly softer image than an ultra sharp image which consequently distracts the shit out of you with horrific shimmering artifacts from aliasing.

If anyone wants to see before and afters then I'll happily oblige but it's worth trying yourself I think.

Anyway - tomorrow morning I receive my super fast Delkin card so fingers crossed for some improvements :)

Ps. Not suggesting that the Delkin is a good solutions even if it DOES work as it's fucking pricey but at least we'll know if it expands possibilities.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1519 on: May 17, 2013, 04:37:08 AM »
I won't even begin to act like I understand what you guys are doing, but I've been watching the forum and I have a question.

From what you guys know so far, is 1920x1080 RAW theoretically possible on the 6d? I know the processor is the same as the Mk III, but I know there are a ton of other factors there too.

Also, is the highspeed SD card from sandisk (95mb/s I believe) not really writing at 95mb/s?

Thanks for what you guys do. Looking forward to a ML build for my 6D!

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1520 on: May 17, 2013, 05:11:05 AM »
slight increase on 128Gb card: 35.3 got 1800 frames

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1521 on: May 17, 2013, 06:48:42 AM »
I guess you prob already know this but just incase you wanted feedback, still suffering huge dip in performance with latest module + autoexec. 1536x640 is giving me average 450 frames as opposed to the previous version giving me 1,500.

Cheers :)

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1522 on: May 17, 2013, 06:52:08 AM »
*Just to clarify - best version for me is still "4 buffers no worries" and my last comment was regarding "New Routines".

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1523 on: May 17, 2013, 07:56:03 AM »
Version: [113] New Routines.zip
1504x600@24: 34.9 MB/s
Drop frames after 1250 frames/1745MB

My tests process:
Battery pull to really clear older ML modules loads
Load modules
Select 1504x600 with "skip frames" option
Shoot

The buffers are acting differently at the start.
The 1st buffer is feeded very quickly instead in the version "4 buffers no worries" where the 1st buffer always blinks along 4GB recording.
A problem freeing buffers ?

I'm in EU so PAL zone, i tried changing to NTSC as you guys but acting the same.

1% and all ML devs, it seems developping is pretty intance the last days. We were on a .bin every 2 days way, we are now at 2 .bins/modules a day !
We are available for testing but it must not enhance pression on you ML developpers.... so take your time. You know a lot of people are watching/waiting for this 6D raw video feature but you can't turn NOLIFE now ! (we need you for support too !!!) ;)
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #1524 on: May 17, 2013, 08:14:07 AM »
I won't even begin to act like I understand what you guys are doing, but I've been watching the forum and I have a question.
From what you guys know so far, is 1920x1080 RAW theoretically possible on the 6d? I know the processor is the same as the Mk III, but I know there are a ton of other factors there too.
Also, is the highspeed SD card from sandisk (95mb/s I believe) not really writing at 95mb/s?
Thanks for what you guys do. Looking forward to a ML build for my 6D!

I doubt 1920x1080 possible with 6D cause of SD card speed. Sandisk 95MB/s is writing 80+MB/s in a card reader on PC but the 6D  seems limited to max 50MB/s. According to Alex, 1920×1080 RAW video requires 83MB/s at 24fps in 5D Mark III.

Having a stable format like 1536x640@24/25/30p easyly upscalable to 1920x800 with a 1.25 factor would give us a really good 2:35 movie mode.
Comparing with the 1920x1080 with x264 compression, the RAW, even scaled, should be as sharp with many more Dynamic Range.
And.... it's RAW ! With the same benefits as raw photos !

And last but not least, you can buy Froknowsphoto's T-shirt: "I shoot RAW !"  :) :) :)
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13