Tragic Lantern for 6D

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ivosilva

Quote from: 1% on May 02, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Focus confirmation had a regression. Fixed.

The unified bin would be too big at this point and the ml config settings don't match. Kind of hard to make the bin to where you won't spend an hour loading it.

And isn't it possible to have each camera model load a different ML version from the card with the right settings? Like a folder for 6D, another for 600D, that way I can use whatever card I pick from my bag. Maybe I'm not the only one doing this?

Also, all my cards are Sandisk Ultra 30Mb/s - will they work fine with higher bitrates and 422 footage?

1%

I wish. Unified puts all the bins in one file and only loads the one that matches the camera. No account for folders.

On top of that if you wanted 6D + 600D it would alone be over 1 MB (2.3 was this big with all cameras) and the loader would have to go through that whole file and pick out the section that is 6D or 600D bin. Load times would be insane. I think ML might be going to single bins too so I'm not the only one with this problem.

ivosilva

Oh well, it's a shame but it's not the end of the world. Guess I'll have to label my cards then  ;D

And what about the cards I mentioned? Are they good to use?

1%

Do a benchmark and find out it will measure sustained write.  I think these are UHS cards from what I read on google? My patriot card only does like 32-4. I'd like to find a cheap 128gb that will do the whole 50. Its not the sandisk pro.... its optimized for 208mhz and a rip. Hell... even the high 40s would catch us up to somewhere closer to 5d3 writing.

ivosilva

Quote from: 1% on May 02, 2013, 05:59:16 PM
Do a benchmark and find out it will measure sustained write.  I think these are UHS cards from what I read on google? My patriot card only does like 32-4. I'd like to find a cheap 128gb that will do the whole 50. Its not the sandisk pro.... its optimized for 208mhz and a rip. Hell... even the high 40s would catch us up to somewhere closer to 5d3 writing.

I'm not sure what to think of this gathered info, but a test made in HD Tune returned 5500KB/s. Is this any good?

1%

That is like 5MB/s very bad.... I think HDtune test is flawed... run the card benchmark in camera.

ivosilva

Quote from: 1% on May 02, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
That is like 5MB/s very bad.... I think HDtune test is flawed... run the card benchmark in camera.

I can't find that option on 2.3 on my 600D (haven't installed ML on the 6D yet)

1%

2.3 is a bit old... 600D build with RAW is in the YUV thread, has the test.

ivosilva

Quote from: 1% on May 02, 2013, 06:44:21 PM
2.3 is a bit old... 600D build with RAW is in the YUV thread, has the test.

I got 12MB. It's a Sandisk Ultra, not a Sandisk Extreme. Well, that settles it. I'm going to have to buy some new cards.

1%

Yup, just make sure they are UHS 100MHZ and not 208mhz... so those 90MB/s cards are probably out... at least "pro" ones from sandisk.

ivosilva

Quote from: 1% on May 02, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
Yup, just make sure they are UHS 100MHZ and not 208mhz... so those 90MB/s cards are probably out... at least "pro" ones from sandisk.

Ok, thank you!

1%

Don't want more people to make that mistake and spend $200 on a card that does worse than $40 35MB/s offerings.

teo770

Personaly, Sandisk Extreme Pro 32 Mb (90Mb/s): 40.9Mb/s with ML benchmark
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13

1%

Thats a good sign... but sparedog got 30 something. Maybe we need a larger sample to find out the real deal.

Right now 1 for, 1 against.

teo770

I know SANDISK Extreme Pro 32 and 64 are different (but same commercial 90Mb/s). 64 SD handles higher bitrates.
From old times i was using them with my hacked GH2....
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13

teo770

Another card: LEXAR 64 gb SDXC UHS-i, given for 30Mb/s:

33 Mb/s to ML benchmark
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13

1%

I think I passed on the lexar.... wondering about patriot pro EP... its a 90MB card.. wonder if it will crack 40.

teo770

Can you estimate the 6D real needs ? For HD1080p ALL-i for example.

When would we need more than 40 Mb/s ?
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13

1%

At least 30MB is nice... The highest possible is best esp for raw burst and YUV recording.

50MB/s is the interface limit.

You can tune bit rate to wherever it needs to be so you could even make it run on class 10 card and be better than canon stock IPB.

Malex

My cards benchmarks :

- 16GB sandisk extreme HD Video 30MB/s. = ML benchmarks 33MB/s

- 32GB sandisk extreme pro 95MB/s. = ML benchmarks 37,9MB/s

Almost the same result...

I'd like to know ML bench result of the sandisk extreme 45MB/s, anyone got this one?

DTSET123

QuoteI'd like to know ML bench result of the sandisk extreme 45MB/s, anyone got this one?
Yes, i have 128 Gb 45MB and it benches 35MB/s

Malex

the 95MB/s extreme is expensive juste for 3MB/s more...

too bad the 6D isn't 100% compatible with it! Canon doing that on purpose to stop us from getting crazy bitrates!

teo770

Anyone knows if an utility like streamparser (Panasonic's GHx hack tool) exists for Canon's MOV ?

It's a really nice tool to see what's in a movie (frames, frame drops... etc)

Would help "qualifying" SD cards for ML... no ?

My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13

1%


teo770

$1795 ! I should have specified a free tool !!! ;D
I'm googling, will tell u if i find something usefull.
My gear: CANON 6D / 40mm f2.8 STM / 20mm f2.8 / 24-105 f4 IS / Flash 90EX / Grip BG-E13