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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2275 on: June 22, 2013, 06:07:06 AM »
Teo770, could you please try 1792x752 at 23,976fps and tell how many frames you acquired?
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2276 on: June 22, 2013, 06:13:26 AM »
Teo770, could you please try 1792x752 at 23,976fps and tell how many frames you acquired?

Or a 1792x672. I get on average 675 frames. Once I got 663 once I got 699. Twice I got 673. If I enable hacked mode I get 735 frames or so. Forgot the exact number.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2277 on: June 22, 2013, 06:22:50 AM »
Thanks, but please check also x752 when you will have some time.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2278 on: June 22, 2013, 07:07:14 AM »
Thanks, but please check also x752 when you will have some time.

I will in a few...

Ok 414 frames.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2279 on: June 22, 2013, 08:34:58 AM »
Teo770, could you please try 1792x752 at 23,976fps and tell how many frames you acquired?
With Sandisk Extreme pro (95MB/s)
1792x752: 405 frames about 10sec without frame drops
1600x672: 2000 frames about 1.25 minutes without frame drops

But guys, recording less than 2 minutes... does it make sens ?

With a good 1600x640, able to handle 8+ minutes recording..... you can make 2 sequences only on a 32GB SD card....
That's not bad and easy upscalable to 1920x768 (x1.2)

For me resolutions causing frame drops before 5 minutes is just not usable.
With multiple 5 minutes sequences (10 sequences on a 64GB), you can really create something !

With 8.30 minutes (my longer sequence without frame drop), we are very close to continuoous recording @1600x640.
OK, not full HD but i m pretty sure in the next few days Alex will optimize his new algorithm and we will gain
more and more recording time/resolution.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2280 on: June 22, 2013, 03:42:05 PM »
http://www.qfpost.com/file/d?g=idJOaYl0E

Added real shutters w/fps override. Made the timer hack undoable.. you still have to get out of LV for it to reset tho.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2281 on: June 22, 2013, 08:50:00 PM »
http://www.qfpost.com/file/d?g=idJOaYl0E

Added real shutters w/fps override. Made the timer hack undoable.. you still have to get out of LV for it to reset tho.

Good thanks. What is the link for though?

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2282 on: June 22, 2013, 08:58:14 PM »
Well it was the latest build but QFP seems to have deleted it... maybe it will let me upload again. I saw the box once on bitbucket again.

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badzip
It keeps going in and out.. I unno. gonna email bitbucket and ask wtf.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2283 on: June 22, 2013, 09:52:18 PM »
the autoexec.bin is in MODULES now ?

Got Err 80 using that update.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2284 on: June 22, 2013, 10:24:34 PM »
Well it was the latest build but QFP seems to have deleted it... maybe it will let me upload again. I saw the box once on bitbucket again.

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http://speedy.sh/hEP2P/6D-ShutterTimer.zip
It keeps going in and out.. I unno. gonna email bitbucket and ask wtf.

Umm why don't you just upload it to the tragic lantern page?

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2285 on: June 23, 2013, 12:32:07 AM »
It won't let me upload 75% of the time: I have to email them.

This one worked:
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B6D%5D%20Not%20messed.zip

I think wrong bin got dragged to the wrong spot for that one... I found out at work :(

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2286 on: June 23, 2013, 01:13:32 AM »
Better and better... and better !

With update: [6D] Not messed.zip
Sandisk Extreme Pro (95MB/s) formated exFAT - Exp Override ON - Global draw OFF - FPS Override 23.976 - Preview Canon

1600x640@23.976p: 9.58 minutes / 24.9GB without frame drop !

1600x670@23.976p: 1 minute without frame drop - useless to me
1600x680@23.976p: 55 seconds without frame drop - useless to me
1664x666@23.976p: 45 seconds without frame drop - useless to me
1728x648@23.976p: 42 seconds without frame drop - useless to me

1600x640@23.976p: 10.30 minutes / 26.56GB without frame drop ! if you activate
"Dialog Timers: disabled" in ML debug menu..
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2287 on: June 23, 2013, 07:33:06 AM »

But guys, recording less than 2 minutes... does it make sens ?

It depends on what you are shooting.

For me anything above 10sec is usable, 15sec is perfectly usable - especially for music videos with fast cuts. 15 sec is quite long actually when you watch it, I agree, that it could be not usable for interviews unless you have some good idea and planning.

EDIT

One thing which bothers me: you remember the old LVrec module? I know, that it was completely different and obsolete thing. But I liked it because with it you could shoot 1920x800 (It was really 1880x800 according to AE). 1880x800 raw with 1x magnification (unfortunatelly with 255MB hack it was 130frames, 4-5 sec).
To be clear on this: 15sec 1792 with 2,39:1 aspect ratio is awesome for me and I am gonna work comfortably with this but theoretically is this  technically possible to have more than 1792 ?  With current memory hacks maybe we could get around 10-15 sec 1880x something...


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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2288 on: June 23, 2013, 11:20:22 AM »
I think i will be part of your family this week, i want to pull the trigger on a 6D but i would love to sell my two cameras and a few other things to feel a bit less guilty.
So, to recap, max speed of the 6D controller is 40ish MB/s, right?
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2289 on: June 23, 2013, 12:51:35 PM »
I think i will be part of your family this week, i want to pull the trigger on a 6D but i would love to sell my two cameras and a few other things to feel a bit less guilty.
So, to recap, max speed of the 6D controller is 40ish MB/s, right?

Yep, I hope that you not buying 6D only for raw. Me and a bunch of guys from the forum were buying 6D when nobody dreamed about raw. It is an astonishing low light camera, great stills, full frame etc. But unfortunatelly SD drive is limited to 40MB/s and thats why we have to treat a raw recording like a nice addition. If you want long recording you will have 1600x something resolution with upscale factor 120-130% (to fullHD) When you need short clips up to 15 sec then 1792x670 with 107% is fully usable. For my 6D I recently bought VAF-6D filter (i will post some samples in a couple of days) because of the moire and aliasing (only 5d3 doesnt have that issues). If you care about the highest possible picture quality better count 400$ more to the final price. I think 6d is a great multi-purpose machine at good price/quality ratio.
If you care only about raw (in good light conditions) then there are some better (and cheaper) options.
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2290 on: June 23, 2013, 01:35:22 PM »
SD Cards i tested:

32GB Sandisk Extreme PRO (95MB/s)
128GB Sandisk Extreme (45MB/s)
64GB Lexar 200X (30MB/s)
Waiting for 64GB TOSHIBA EXCERIA Type 2 (60MB/s)

For now, the Sandisk Extreme PRO (95MB/s) gives the best writing speed. But it's limited to 64GB, no 128GB yet.
Anyone got a SD LEXAR PRO 600X (available in 16/32/64/128/256) ?
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2291 on: June 23, 2013, 04:30:38 PM »
Hehehe, 6D is a better camera then 50D for everything but raw. Raw 50D is like 1920x1038 pretty much continuous. But 6D can get away with recording on batteries... 50D not so much.

FF also made many of my manual lenses or "FF" designed lenses work better than on APS-C.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2292 on: June 23, 2013, 06:20:26 PM »
And due to APS-C crop factor... cropped raw video are not very wide !
I make my tests with the 20mm f2.8 on the 6D..... and not that wide finaly.

Thinking about buying the 17-40 f4 now....
Advantage: it's parfocal..... Focus point doesn't change while zooming... vertigo effect, here i come !

Would be nice to have DXOMark rank Raw video capabilities of Canon cams....
DR, low light, color depth...
The day it'll happen....
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2293 on: June 23, 2013, 08:35:13 PM »
Well I still have to drop the money to have may 11-16 fixed.. I get the feeling it will be a winner at 11mm since now we crop so hard, that vignette will just go away.

On FF the 11mm is like what 8mm? 6mm?



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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2294 on: June 23, 2013, 08:45:59 PM »
Divide focale by 1.63
11-16 mm in APS-C => 6.75-10 mm in FF
(for APS-C lenses only)

Ok, vignette has gone but welcome distortion !
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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2295 on: June 23, 2013, 08:52:11 PM »
How bad is the distortion? Seems like it would just be fish-eye effect. At 15MM when I could use it for full size raw it was OK

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« Reply #2296 on: June 23, 2013, 11:52:07 PM »
I shot a load of stuff on a 15mm with raw as it was corpped in and it worked great. just cropped in enough for the distortion not to be too bad in the recording area and also just enough for it to be passable with a bit of lens correction :) I'll see if I can find the footage and show you...

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2297 on: June 24, 2013, 01:52:39 AM »
Hey, turns out I was off by 0x4 on the raw type address: we can run the tests again now without interruption.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B6D%5D%20RawtypeTEST.zip

So find the one with 0 noise/weirdness.
22 is what we have by default.. the images are img#-1 = type.

so 05210002.DNG is type 1.

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2298 on: June 24, 2013, 02:15:08 AM »
Hey, turns out I was off by 0x4 on the raw type address: we can run the tests again now without interruption.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B6D%5D%20RawtypeTEST.zip

So find the one with 0 noise/weirdness.
22 is what we have by default.. the images are img#-1 = type.

so 05210002.DNG is type 1.

Excuse me but what are you talking about? This is a ML update so I'm guessing you fixed how the naming system works with Raw Video?

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Re: Tragic Lantern for 6D
« Reply #2299 on: June 24, 2013, 02:27:10 AM »
I'm also kind of lost
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