Canon 600D + EOS Utility +Live View+ Full Screen, is it possible?

Started by microscopeman, October 13, 2013, 11:31:14 AM

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microscopeman

Is it possible to increase the size of EOS utility so i can shoot live video to show my students and point out things on the 70 inh TV i have it running to from the laptop via HD?

At the moment the aspect ratio or something just doesnt allow for full screen. If i record it and play back then it fine it fills the entire screen.

Is this possible somehow? If not with the EOS utility maybe some other software?

Walter Schulz

Looks like your monitor is lacking some options ...
Have you tried tricking the monitor by a HDMI to HDMI converter?

Ciao
Walter

microscopeman

HDMI to HDMI converter? What would that do?
I tried to google it and cant find anything on it. Do you mean HMDI to DVI?

The thing is I can not even get the laptop PC to show it full screen during live video.

Have a look here this camera will do it:

http://www.neiservice.com/pdf/HD210D_Northeast.pdf

Scoll down a little and it explains what i mean.

Walter Schulz


microscopeman

ok i will cheers,

I justr found this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XaO08y0-v0

Omg i wonder if this is possible to do this on a Canon 600D, if it is then i will just directly display it to the TV but i wonder if i can have this running at the same time as input into my PC so i can capture it via PC?

Hmm something new to try.
The INFO button ......to toggle between Full screen etc.


microscopeman

Also noticed this in the manual after reading just then:

Here is a pic of what i found, it seems on Full HF and HD it crops the screen. Why would they do this? What a pain especially when i need Full HD resoultion to point out differences in Bacteria.

http://i.imgur.com/kol3E8s.jpg

microscopeman

some more reading and i found this:

It is possible to use USB to PC and also HDMI out to a TV. I am now hoping that through the HDMI i can use the INFO button to make this a full screen aspect raito/mode. Will see tomorrow at work i guess.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2733107

microscopeman

Also found this interesting from a poster on another forum:

There is an app called SparkoCam that can transform your camera into a webcam by creating in the system virtual device and streaming live view feed from canon eos camera as a webcam video, so you'll be able to use it just like regular webcam.

http://sparkosoft.com/sparkocam

600duser

I have a 600d and id like to be able to use it as a 'webcam'

Its a shame Canon doesn't provide all the software you need im kind of wary about installing some of the stuff you see on the web.

Ive only just got my 600d so im not sure of all the options available. I cant seem to throw the EOS utility full screen either. A tad annoying.



If you wanted to demo the camera itself ? then you could just set up a webcam and point it at the camera / camera screen.  Plenty of web cam apps throw full screen. (The app bundled with the webcam is bound too)  Not sure if this would solve your particular problem. If you used an HD webcam the picture quality loss will be fairly low, the light from the cannon screen quite bright and easily captured by the webcam and you can lock down the exposure settings on the webcam for WYSIWYG

Going down this route you would have also have full control of the Canon Camera and not the limited control handed out by the EOS utility. You could even mount both cameras to a board.

If its stupid and it works its not stupid.


microscopeman

Well today i ran Eos Utility for 600D and at the same time i put a HDMI cable into the Tv's HD port. Then i used the cameras "INFO" button to scroll to Full screen, keep pressing it until you get to the screen with no setting on it and it will widen/zoom it a little. Its close enough to full screen and I am happy with that.

Here is a salmon gill i captured through the microscope, this is a mounted cross section. Look i found natures smiley  :) click the magnifying glass on the smiley to make it bigger.

http://i.imgur.com/dLRI8ec.jpg

The only let down with this is that i cannot use the mouse cursor on the screen to outline where i am pointing at, also if i want to use other programs on the PC projected it will not work.
Now i have to find out a way to switch between the 2. Hmmm now im thinking a seperate HDMI cable into the HD port 2 on the monitor so i can switch views by selecting HD input.
Time to try it out.

microscopeman

Yes great it actually works.

So my setup is as follows:


  • Cannon 600D mounted on a trinocular Olympus microscope looking at a slide of a section of salmon gill.


  • Cannon 600D connected to laptop via USB cable and running EOS Utility in live view .


  • Laptop connected to Sony LED FULL HD 1080p TV via HDMI cable in port 1 on TV.


  • Direct HDMI cable from Cannon into Sony TV's HDMI port 2, I then use the INFO button on the Cannon 600D to scroll through until it selects full screen mode.

Now i can use the TV remote to select either HDMI port 1 or 2 and this allows me full access to Full screen mode on the Camera and also what I need to access and display on the Laptop, which includes video from other sources, some HD and some VGA.

I just do not understand why Canon did not include full screen mode in their EOS utility software.
This might end up being to much of a hassle for most of my teachers and we will probably be forced to stick with the cropped view unless I can somehow simplify it.

microscopeman

Is seems i need to plug everything into its ports and then turn on the camera, then open eos utility on the computer and then if i want to switch to full screen mode i must switch to hdmi port 2 on the sony tv and then click the "live mode" button on the camera before it comes up.
Then i can flick between the 2 as long as i want.

600duser

thanks for spelling out your setup

Remote control & twin hdmi inputs  for the win

...scope in on my xmas list



sinsin

ive noticed that this post was made a long time ago but ive been facing the same issue and this fixed my problem right away. hope yall find it helpfull! though it makes my mac fan go crazy but its a good alternative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMH_KB7FEDk

350D

Better way to stream live video from any supported Canon camera via OBS or any other software with Syphon support is to use this project - https://github.com/v002/v002-Camera-Live