Canon 70D

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DeafEyeJedi

Any chance anyone can tell us where we can find the pre alpha build or is it not yet released?
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

DeafEyeJedi

I'm also curious to see how well it'll perform with a Sandisk 32gb extreme pro (90 MB/s) ;)
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

DigitalVeil

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 08, 2015, 02:44:23 AM
Any chance anyone can tell us where we can find the pre alpha build or is it not yet released?

Not publicly released, nikfreak sent it around to a few people, maybe they can share with you (I personally don't have it).

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 08, 2015, 02:45:27 AM
I'm also curious to see how well it'll perform with a Sandisk 32gb extreme pro (90 MB/s) ;)

Probably the same as a 50MB/s card  :P
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DeafEyeJedi

I am aware of that -- just thought I'd ask since it doesn't hurt to try. Anyone care to share?

I also believe your 50 MB/s card will work just as well... ;)
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

blueybuff

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on January 08, 2015, 03:38:19 AM
I am aware of that -- just thought I'd ask since it doesn't hurt to try. Anyone care to share?

I also believe your 50 MB/s card will work just as well... ;)

The pre alpha build is very buggy, I had a few crashes while I was filming the video.

I think the idea is to keep it on the down low till bugs are exterminated or people will complain.

DeafEyeJedi

I understand that and I'm one of the few that enjoys trouble-shooting to help narrow down the bugs.
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

Rwatkins

I've been using a sandisk extreme pro 32gb and I'm getting the same results with my 50mb/s cards: about 14 seconds of raw at 1856x790.

kubodhi

Most of the pre-alpha discussion has been about video.  How's the rest of the ML functionality (intervalometer, focus assist, etc)?
550D->70D.111A, Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, Sigma 30mm f/1.4 DC HSM, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X116 Pro DX, Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II, YongNuo YN-468 II E-TTL Speedlite With LCD

DeafEyeJedi

How about Dual-ISO?
5D3.113 | 5D3.123 | EOSM.203 | 7D.203 | 70D.112 | 100D.101 | EOSM2.* | 50D.109

blueybuff

I'll go through the menu and let you guys what whats working/whats buggy/what doesn't work.


  • Zebras: Works fine
  • Focus Peak: Causes crash when disabling canon menu
  • Magic Zoom: Not working
  • Crop Marks: Works fine
  • Ghost Image: Not working
  • Spotometer: Works fine
  • False Color: Working fine
  • Histogram: Working fine
  • Waveform: Working fine
  • Vectorscope: Working fine

NEXT PAGE

  • Bitrate: Works fine, no issues from what I experienced
  • REC Key: Works fine
  • Gradual Exposure: Not having success, I don't know how to use this feature properly though, may be user error
  • FPS Override: Not working from what I can tell, again may be user error
  • HDR Video: Not working
  • Vignetting: I don't have a lens with noticable vignetting that I can test it on
  • Image Fine Tuning: Works fine
  • Movie Crop Mode: Only for 600D?
  • Movie Tweaks: Works fine

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  • Intervalometer: Works fine
  • Motion Detect: Works fine

NEXT PAGE (Skipping Display & Prefs, I don't have knowledge of this area)

  • Modules Page: Works fine


The future for this port looks bright!

ShootMeAlready

70D has the 3X crop in video mode, just like the 600D. 
T3i+ML & 70D.112+ML, Tokina 11-16 2.8, Sigma 18-35 1.8, 50-150 II 2.8, 50 1.4, Canon 28 1.8, 35 2, 85 1.8 "Shoot Wide and Prosper"

blueybuff

Quote from: ShootMeAlready on January 08, 2015, 06:35:08 AM
70D has the 3X crop in video mode, just like the 600D. 


Its not letting me change it to yes :/

janoschsimon

@blueybuf in your youtube video it looks like you had ai servo on while recording raw? that would be SOOOOOOO awesome :D did you try any lower resolution? what about clean hdmi?

oh man cant wait :D

cheers janosch

blueybuff

Quote from: janoschsimon on January 08, 2015, 07:48:31 AM
in your youtube video it looks like you had ai servo on while recording raw? that would be SOOOOOOO awesome :D

No AI, all manual (EDIT: I used manual but AI does work) :)

Quote from: janoschsimon on January 08, 2015, 07:48:31 AM
did you try any lower resolution?

I tried 720p, seemed to be continuous.

Quote from: janoschsimon on January 08, 2015, 07:48:31 AM
what about clean hdmi?

I haven't tried it sorry! :(

TomJ

QuoteI think the idea is to keep it on the down low till bugs are exterminated...

As well they should. People will try it and complain when they soft brick their bodies. Best keep it under till alpha.

On the T4i the pre-alpha was rock solid for me, for what I was using it for, but I'm asking a lot more from the 70D as are most. Let's just back up our devs while they do what they can to bring ML to life for the 70D.

ARsiega

QuoteOk enough for now! Please don't apply for early testing. I will keep you updated these days. The ratio of guys owning the "old fw revision" has been ~40%.
I'm too late. Mine was bought on Dec. 2013, would've qualified on the old fw revision.

Very good work nikfreak. I'll keep a close tab on this.

gerk.raisen

I'm pleased to announce that my Dec14 70D is now ML supercharged :)

Are there something specific feature that would be useful to be tested at first?
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X-STATE

Quote from: blueybuff on January 08, 2015, 08:11:04 AM
No AI, all manual :)
auto focus works great when shooting RAW video!
as well as capture mov
Body: Canon EOS 70D Lenses: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM Canon EF 85 f/1.8 USM
70D.112

X-STATE



Shot with the Canon 70D and Magic Lantern raw video in 1792х762
Len used: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM
Converted from raw and edit in After Effects
Body: Canon EOS 70D Lenses: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM Canon EF 85 f/1.8 USM
70D.112

blueybuff

Quote from: X-STATE on January 08, 2015, 08:55:02 AM
auto focus works great when shooting RAW video!
as well as capture mov


Ah sweet! Is focus peak working for you? It crashes for me.

camslide

Clean HDMI would be great!
70D.112

X-STATE

Quote from: blueybuff on January 08, 2015, 09:16:03 AM
Ah sweet! Is focus peak working for you? It crashes for me.
does not work
Camera crash :)
Body: Canon EOS 70D Lenses: Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 DC HSM Canon EF 85 f/1.8 USM
70D.112

janoschsimon

UHHHH X-state so 720p RAW continous and AI servo works? that would be another x-mas :D

emvee

Sorry if this sounds like a newbie question, but just so I'm clear, is the reason that the 70D won't be able to record RAW video at 1080p because the SD controller can only write at around 40 mb/s and RAW requires faster writing speeds?

walter_schulz

Yes. ML RAW/MLV writes uncompressed data.
Write rate (Byte/s) = Vertical pixel/resolution * horizontal pixel/resolution * 14 * frame rate / 8

For 720p@24:
1280 x 720 x 14 x 24 / 8 = 38707200
about 37 MByte/s (24 is not 24 ...)

For 1080p@24:
1920 x 1080 x 14 x 24 /8 = 87091200
about 83 MByte/s

Actually you can record 1080p but only for very few frames.