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moroz

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Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« on: September 20, 2013, 12:25:30 AM »
Hello,
could you please help me with these questions:
- has anyone tried Nyrius ARIES on the Canon 5D MarK III while recording 1080pRAW
- do you think we can attach an HDMI splitter on the 5D3  (RAW hack) and connect to it :
a 7"field monitor + the Nyrius ARIES  ( the Nyrius receiver will be connected to a laptop)
Thank you!
http://www.amazon.com/Nyrius-Transmitter-Streaming-Satellite-NPCS549/dp/B009E6R89C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1379499763&sr=1-1&keywords=nyrius

moroz

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 10:18:51 PM »
no one using a wireless solution with ML Raw ?? :-\

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 10:44:38 PM »
It would be nice if it works  :)

moroz

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 11:50:15 PM »
it could work i think...take a look at this
http://www.steadicamforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18697


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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 12:26:09 AM »
indeed..Nyrius ARIES is the cheap version of  IDX and Paralinx (more latency, less range, longer sync delay at start up...)
do you think the same setting can work with IDX and Paralinx on 5D3 RAW?
 for instance  can we use this setting on a steadicam:   5D3-->HDMI splitter -->1st HDMI out to wired 7"monitor + 2nd HDMI out to  Nyrius transmitter --> laptop+  Nyrius receiver)
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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 12:47:21 AM »
I don't know if with that setup you can do the same thing. I think you shloud send an email to them and ask.

The Nyrius ARIES Pro say that have zero latency, IDX CW-1 Wireless HDMI Video Transmission System say's that have 1ms delay.

The Nyrius ARIES Pro say's it's for connect pc, laptop... The IDX CW-1 say's that you can connect direct to the camera.

I think you should send a email and ask if Nyrius ARIES Pro can do the same of IDX CW-1. Maybe not but maybe with update firmware it's possible.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 01:36:53 PM »
I WILL.
THX :)

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 10:38:59 PM »
Hi.

I'm actually planning to build similar setup for a while now.

1 question - How do you plan to connect receiver to a laptop? As there's no HDMI IN port on laptops.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 11:59:32 PM »
you're right.
it can be a  2nd monitor instead of a laptop

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 12:04:31 AM »
Yes, better a monitor then laptop. Did you send the email or you going buy and try if it's work?

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 01:10:46 PM »
Yes, but I've came up with 2 ways to do this, both will cost the same(if you already have a laptop) and will allow to view on 13 inch screen.

1st is to buy -
http://www.gechic.com/product_help_en.asp?s=3 = 200$
This is the only low cost monitor on market which can be powered with any 5V power bank and has hdmi in port. Others uses usb for both power and video.

2nd is to buy Backmagic Intensity Shuttle = ~200$
This option would be better because you could also record and view back footage - which is a problem with raw.
This one combined with new macbook air(12h battery life) would be excellent.
+ you can attach recorder like zoom h4n on camera and send audio as well. This will require HDMI adapter with separate audio input.

If you take 2nd option even further, and transmitter is latency free, recorded video/audio on laptop can actually be used as raw proxy if you connect camera headphone jack to zoom and record beep sound in separate line(when recording is started beep is played via headphone jack too)
And in post just place raw files in separate track at beginnings of that audio line clipping points.
No need to render proxy files which takes a lot of time.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 05:14:21 AM »
It's look i nice set up  :D So you going to buy the Nyrius ARIES Pro ? Please, keep us post with the news.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 10:41:46 AM »
Nyrius Pro looks solid, but there's also cheaper transmitters:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161085027266?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

In my case, there would be a little distance between camera and monitor, so maybe this cheap alternative could easily do the job. But I'm not sure.
Have to remember: you get what you pay for.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 03:13:57 PM »
WOW very cheap...!!! But like you say...  you get what you pay for. Do you going to buy this one? This seller is having out of stock this item... Would love to know if this work good, at the least in the minimum requisites...

You got others sellers that got in stock. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmitter-Receiver-MINI-HDMI-Digital-Wireless-Wifi-dispaly-HD-1080p-Video-TV-/271230445536?pt=US_Audio_Video_Transmitters&hash=item3f269827e0  Would be F* wanderful if this work  ;D

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 06:22:08 PM »
Yes, it would be :)

I'm planning, but not at the moment.  Hopefully I will get everything till November. 
If it works great, I will do a quick review and let you know guys ;)

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 08:21:01 PM »
I will be really appreciated  :D

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2013, 10:31:02 PM »
hello,
i emailed the company and this is their answer:
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Hello,

     Thank you for your interest in our Nyrius Prime. In regards to your question about connecting this product to your DSLR camera, as long as your camera has an HDMI output and your source has an HDMI input, you should not have any problem with the functionality of this product.

 We have passed on your question about transmitting uncompressed 14 bit raw video to our research and development team, and we will respond to you once we have an answer from them.

Kind regards,
CWD Support

Update for Case #CASE1152117 - "CONNECT ARIES Pro to Canon 5D Mark III"   

Hello,
 In regards to our previous e-mail, we will require some more information. Is the video going to be recorded at 1080p or lower? If it is, the Aries line should suit your needs. Our Aries line does not currently support 2 or 4k resolution.

   If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards,

CWD Customer Support

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2013, 11:34:22 PM »
THAT IS GOOD NEWS NO?   :D


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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2013, 11:47:05 PM »
i think so  :)
but we need to test it

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2013, 01:22:44 AM »

Do you going to buy it?  :D

moroz

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2013, 09:49:20 AM »
not now

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »
 :o   

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2013, 12:23:06 PM »
You can't record RAW through the HDMI, otherwise we'd all buy atomos ninja and be done with it.  Remember we were all trying to figure out how to connect an SSD to the CF slot? 

If your intentions are just to monitor wirelessly while you record your RAW video on CF inside the camera, then it should work.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 03:24:02 AM »
If your intentions are just to monitor wirelessly while you record your RAW video on CF inside the camera, then it should work.

this is my unique intention  :)

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2014, 06:05:48 PM »
Let's bring this up!

Has anyone experienced with these?
I'm thinking about DP4/MustHD 5.6 for cameracrew and from there wireless to directors monitor.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2014, 10:41:10 PM »
Hey!

I used the Paralinx Arrow couple weeks ago... a system that is almost the same as the Aries, but costs like 800+ dollars. We went to shoot in a private neighbourhood, only houses, lots of open space, we were on exterior, outside the house on an inner road. We were shooting a "long take" (I dont know how you call it in english) so we were circulating a bit, but not so much. The Paralinx said it supported 100m of signal range, but that wasnt the case, we struggled a lot to get it working. And once you lose the signal it takes a while to get it back.

Anyway we werent close to the camera, but one figures it should work at that distance! Maybe in interiors or places where you dont move around a lot it works ok.

Other than that, when we got it working, it was a pleasure to have :)
Oh and on the Aries there is a PRO version which costs a little more and you have a lot more range.

Hope it was useful.
Cheers!

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2014, 08:07:40 PM »
Ok thanks! If we go that route, then we must have cable available too.
Then again I think, if it's for director monitor only, you can be close to camera. But with stabilizers you need to have some room operate...hope it's worth it!

Any better solutions for going wireless?

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2014, 05:37:09 AM »
Mmmmh something that just occurred to me... you can mix the transmitter AND cable, let's say a 10m hdmi one. So you can place the video village wherever you want and then extend the wireless dongle with the cable to a spot of your convenience, and then you move it around scene by scene.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2014, 02:26:02 AM »
Yeah good point.
Hey what if I want audio in to the same monitor for director, so that he/she can use headphones from the monitor. And we are recording dialogue to external field recorder, let's say Sound Devices 633. What would be the best way to send audio from the 633 to directors headphones wireless?

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2014, 04:56:44 AM »
I never tried actually, but the devices are almost the same as the transmitter and receiver from a lav mic. I would try a wireless lav mic and take the mic out, and send a line in to it. Maybe it works.

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2014, 12:26:13 AM »
Yeah got to try that, thanks!

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Re: Wireless HDMI Nyrius ARIES on 5D3 RAW + HDMI splitter
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2017, 07:35:15 PM »
Yes, that should work. I need another wireless hdmi. I figure out this page http://bestproducts-4u.com/best-wireless-hdmi/ Can you suggest me which one will be the best?  :) ;D :o