Short record time on Sandisk 90mb/s in RAW, is it normal? (5Dmk2)

Started by PeterKa, August 16, 2013, 07:11:51 PM

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PeterKa

Hi all,

I'm a bit newbie here so don't flame me :) I recently dig into ML + RAW on my 5Dmk2 and before i was using Sandisk Extreme cards (60mb/s) for h264. I knew its to slow so i bought Sandisk Extreme Pro 90mb/s udma7. I didn't think i will be able to shot continues shots but... i can only shot 12s of RAW footage in max resolution 1880x1058 at 23,976 fps

Is it ok? ML benchmark in movie mode (global draw off) shows average of 50mb/s when the card should be around 80-85 right? Or im missing smth here??? Pls help

Midphase

Most of my friends who are shooting with the 5D2 aren't shooting at such a high resolution. Perhaps you might be pushing the envelope a bit too much?

Try a lower resolution, and remember that on that camera, the bottleneck isn't the card but the chip which controls how fast you can write to it.

ted ramasola

@ PeterKa

Here is a list of the best that's possible on the mkII using a 1000x CF card shooting at 24P.

The highest possible res to record is at
1880x1058 16:9 = 1049 approx frames (approx 44 seconds)

Highest continuous recording is at
1880 x 940 2:1 = record till your CF card is full (64gig around 15 minutes)

Highest 16:9 continuous recording is at
1728 x 972 = record till your CF card is full (64gig around 15 minutes)

Highest res in crop mode is at
2144 x 1076 = 358 approx frames

near full HD res in crop mode is at
1920 x 1076 = 1223 approc frames

Highest 16:9 continuous recording in crop mode is at
1856 x 1044 = record till your CF card is full (64gig around 15 minutes)
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Texas

PeterKa

So looking at those numbers is what i got on my card is normal or it isn't? 'Cuase well i thought at 90mb/s (my card ix 600x) i will get smth more then 12 sec ( as mentioned above 1000x get 44sec).

Plus as wrote in the 1st post, my card is 90mb/s and benchmark shows something totally different :/

mageye

It does sound a little below par :(.

Are you using the latest nightly build? (as in today)

Under Canon Menu > Quality Make sure the photo mode is set to Small JPG? and turn RAW OFF (this makes a difference  ;))

Under Magic Lantern > Movie > RAW Video menu:

Turn ON 'Small hacks' under the sub menu

Try 'Card warm-up' from same menu (I have mine set to 128MB)

I hope these measures improve speed a little :).
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ted ramasola

Quote from: PeterKa on August 16, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
So looking at those numbers is what i got on my card is normal or it isn't? 'Cuase well i thought at 90mb/s (my card ix 600x) i will get smth more then 12 sec ( as mentioned above 1000x get 44sec).

Plus as wrote in the 1st post, my card is 90mb/s and benchmark shows something totally different :/

I guess so. I measured an 800x at that same res and it will get approx 13 sec. So I guess its "almost normal" for your 600X to get 12.

The ML benchmarks is usually different from whats printed on your card label.
5DmkII  / 7D
www.ramasolaproductions.com
Texas

PeterKa

Quote from: mageye on August 16, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
It does sound a little below par :(.

Are you using the latest nightly build? (as in today)

Under Canon Menu > Quality Make sure the photo mode is set to Small JPG? and turn RAW OFF (this makes a difference  ;))

Under Magic Lantern > Movie > RAW Video menu:

Turn ON 'Small hacks' under the sub menu

Try 'Card warm-up' from same menu (I have mine set to 128MB)

I hope these measures improve speed a little :).

Hmmm and did what You suggested and... wow weird but it helped a bit!

- in 1880x1054 i got 18sec from 12sec before

- in 1880x940 i got 44sec from about 26sec before

uhm... is it all thx to "small hacks" ? i didn't restart the camera so card warm up didn't run plus i have RAW photo disabled and small JPG enable from start

ted ramasola

Quote from: PeterKa on August 16, 2013, 07:49:16 PM
Hmmm and did what You suggested and... wow weird but it helped a bit!

- in 1880x1054 i got 18sec from 12sec before

- in 1880x940 i got 44sec from about 26sec before

uhm... is it all thx to "small hacks" ? i didn't restart the camera so card warm up didn't run plus i have RAW photo disabled and small JPG enable from start

small hacks helps big. :) warm up depends on certain cards, you can try it if it will improve, raw photo disabled also helps in raw video.
if you can get continuous 1728 x 972 16:9 you'r good to go since you can easily upscale that to full hd.
5DmkII  / 7D
www.ramasolaproductions.com
Texas

bnvm

And of course upgrading your card will help too. With the 2 cards I have, I have found that I get roughly 50% of the speed that the card claims as my actual write speed using ML so 90 MB/s = 45 MB/s. With a 1000x card you will be able to get low to mid 70 MB/s which will help a lot. The KomputerBay cards that seem to be the fastest are not all that expensive, the are some of the cheapest cards from what I have seen.