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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2225 on: December 29, 2013, 09:32:04 PM »
Oh, as a small follow-up to my experience with that Transcend 32gb 1000x - after processing the images, I found that a lot of early shots had a number of pink frames that made the shots pretty unusable. After I had been shooting continuously with the card for a while longer, it did seem to warm up and later shots had almost no corrupted frames. So I might try that "Warm Up" card option or whatever it's called. Could be what was going on here. (Also, I should note that I haven't tried any of the tricks some people have found for increased frames, like turning Global Draw off or shooting 5x magnified. I literally got the card in the mail from B&H the day of my cousin's wedding and decided to be crazy and flash it right away with the nightly build of ML. Still performed pretty well, everything stock out of the box.)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2226 on: December 29, 2013, 10:15:53 PM »
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ust wanted to check if it wasn't possible to go beyond 1728x972 in normal mode.

Yes it is, just change aspect ratio. The full LV is 1728x1152.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2227 on: December 30, 2013, 08:00:46 AM »
According to the GoogleDocs spreadsheet about camera capabilities, the 7D is listed as supporting ExFAT, however when I format the card as ExFAT in my computer and then insert it in the 7D I get an error that the card is not recognizable.

Can anyone confirm or deny that the 7D is capable of ExFAT formatted cards, and if yes how to properly prepare them?

Thank you!

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2228 on: December 30, 2013, 10:50:42 AM »
That spreadsheet is outdated. I'm pretty sure the 7D doesn't support exfat.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2229 on: December 30, 2013, 10:54:55 AM »
What's stopping you from updating it?

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7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2230 on: December 30, 2013, 10:56:02 AM »
It's write protected isn't it?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2231 on: December 30, 2013, 11:05:52 AM »
Yeah, looks like somebody protected it, probably due to vandalism. But the permissions say "Anyone who has the link can comment", and I'm sure somebody with write access will apply the changes you suggest.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2232 on: December 30, 2013, 11:09:21 AM »
I think that guy is afk and has been for quite some time. Could the spreadsheet be duplicated and the link replaced by the mods?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2233 on: December 30, 2013, 11:16:55 AM »
Last update was yesterday. I wouldn't call this "afk for quite some time".

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2234 on: December 30, 2013, 01:51:15 PM »
Well the 7d component of the spreadsheet hasn't been updated in as long as I can remember which is just about when raw started working on the 7d.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2235 on: December 30, 2013, 01:58:51 PM »
That's your job.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2236 on: December 30, 2013, 04:11:02 PM »
Hi Thoma. I'm using a Transcend 32Gb 1000x card and I am getting continuous recording (till card fills up) at 25P (and 24P) 1728x972, 16:9.

I'm in the the UK so that's perfect for me. Card seems to max out at 73.6mb/s and 25p is 70mb/s. (I do use card warm up, otherwise first file stops). Global draw off while recording, RAW format, haven't tried much MLV yet. Just noticed the option for Double or Single buffer, has always been on Double - don't know if single will improve things?? TL build 8Dec13

It won't shoot continuous at 3:2 aspect, 1728x1152, predicts around 425+ frames at 25P.

Best aspect you will get at 29.97 is 2.20:1 on this/my card.

I haven't had much chance to process these RAW files, just tetsing card so far, so can't comment on pink frames at the moment.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2237 on: December 31, 2013, 01:51:00 AM »
for anti aliasing/moiré which one is better the VAF filter or shooting in crop mode? thanks

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2238 on: December 31, 2013, 02:51:58 AM »
for anti aliasing/moiré which one is better the VAF filter or shooting in crop mode? thanks

Uhmmm.. dependes what you want to do, each one got there limitation. With VAF you can shoot normal mode but the image get a little bit soft but i think nothing to much or that "normal" people will complain. With crop mode i think is most free of aliasing.

So...
Normal mode is better because of the form factor, in crop mode it's like filming with a zoom lens... but talking about  aliasing/moiré with the most clean image i will go fro crop mode with out the VAF. 

Maybe someone out there got different opinion...  8)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2239 on: December 31, 2013, 03:23:38 AM »
Looks like the Unofficial TL are back to the line.

http://tl.bot-fly.com/ 

You already can try the latest MLV RAW now with sound record. Don't know if it's working but let's see and report the bugs.  Also the rest of the modules.



(with the latest events im a little bit lost, hope doing the correct thing for helping ML getting further and hope that the 7D getts to the main bru(a)nch)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2240 on: December 31, 2013, 07:55:46 AM »
for anti aliasing/moiré which one is better the VAF filter or shooting in crop mode? thanks

Forget that expensive and horrendous VAF filter and buy an ultra wide angle lens instead (tokina 11-16mm f2.8 ). Crop mode is the way to go, but if you want to use the whole sensor I recommend fast lenses, like the antialiasing and beautiful pentax 50mm f1.2.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2241 on: December 31, 2013, 10:04:12 AM »
testing the dec 30 TL with MLV_SND.mo, the dngs were extracted but there is NO WAV file.

in the ML menu MLV Sound is ON. and I can see the sound levels working.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2242 on: December 31, 2013, 05:09:54 PM »
Forget that expensive and horrendous VAF filter and buy an ultra wide angle lens instead (tokina 11-16mm f2.8 ). Crop mode is the way to go, but if you want to use the whole sensor I recommend fast lenses, like the antialiasing and beautiful pentax 50mm f1.2.

I'm trying to use ML Raw for some professional work. Shooting raw, VAF filter (expensive, far from horrendous), global draw off. Hdmi monitoring is not a problem, use zebras and waveforms and everything else from the monitor. A bit of a pain on post production but fine.
My question is, how to do that with crop mode? Is it possible to frame and monitor video?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2243 on: December 31, 2013, 05:34:12 PM »
I am using TaragicLantern 7d version
tragiclantern-v2.3.NEXT.2013Dec29.7D203 and mlv_rec /mlv_snd
from Magic Lantern (RAW) Video format v2.0 (mlv_rec.mo) thread page 1
and it works very well in normal mode but in crop mode the camera enters into some
uncontroled state and it has to be reset only by removing the battery

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2244 on: December 31, 2013, 05:38:59 PM »
I'm trying to use ML Raw for some professional work. Shooting raw, VAF filter (expensive, far from horrendous), global draw off. Hdmi monitoring is not a problem, use zebras and waveforms and everything else from the monitor. A bit of a pain on post production but fine.
My question is, how to do that with crop mode? Is it possible to frame and monitor video?

In crop mode (x5) i don't know if works with external monitor.

In normal mode use the zoom mode (x5 )and frame it, you have 2 options to frame in zoom/crop mode 5x, black & white but true framing and normal color but not real frame. Just don't know if works with external monitor.

If i film in normal mode i would use one VAF (don't have ) in crop mode don't need.

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« Reply #2245 on: January 01, 2014, 09:47:54 PM »
No idea if I'm posting in the right place. I find this forum and its threads terribly confusing. Regardless, here's my issue:

Installed TL Dec 28 build and shot a 2-hour time-lapse on my 7D using FPS override. I've done this before on my 60D using ML with no issues. However, on my 7D when I stopped the recording, everything seemed to freeze up. I left it for a few minutes in case something was buffering or what have you, but in the end had to pull the battery to reset the camera. End result is no video on the card (Lexar Pro 400x), meaning a loss of two hours of data. It wasn't production work so I'm not overly concerned but I'd like to know if this is a bug or if the FPS override feature just isn't up to spec yet.

Also, file manager module refuses to load and crashes TL until I reboot camera, again by pulling the battery.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2246 on: January 01, 2014, 10:03:51 PM »
testing the dec 30 TL with MLV_SND.mo, the dngs were extracted but there is NO WAV file.

in the ML menu MLV Sound is ON. and I can see the sound levels working.

Not yet fix the audio in MLV.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2247 on: January 01, 2014, 10:31:10 PM »
I'm working on audio right now (almost!). For the time lapse be wary of FPS override stopping, its mainly for raw crop mode. If you use it for time lapse the camera will lock up if video is stopped outside of the button and thats what looks like happened.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2248 on: January 01, 2014, 11:17:20 PM »
I'm working on audio right now (almost!)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #2249 on: January 02, 2014, 12:21:23 AM »
Ok, working somewhat decently now. Found the wind filter mutes external mics so if you're having that problem on an earlier build turn it off.

1728x972 can handle audio continuously, the larger sizes don't seem to do well with it.