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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1100 on: September 16, 2013, 04:46:45 PM »
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1101 on: September 16, 2013, 06:53:33 PM »
Can someone tell me how should I do to film in raw with my 7d.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1102 on: September 16, 2013, 06:57:17 PM »

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1103 on: September 16, 2013, 10:17:01 PM »
For what it's worth, Komputerbay tech rep was extremely helpful and kind on the phone. Even giving me some tips to setup magic lantern for shooting raw :)

Due to this great service and the competitive price, I'm going to give them another shot. It's great to deal with a company like that, and despite my first dud, I'd recommend them for anyone here (I think it's a very similar mindset to ML- willing to take a little risk and much patience to get great footage on a tight budget). Will report back when I have my new card (will be a while due to international shipping both ways) ;)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1104 on: September 17, 2013, 01:13:59 AM »
Yea, they seem nice. Probably a little confused as to what I'm asking tho :)

so far 2 x 64 UDMA7, tons of writing and no issues.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1105 on: September 17, 2013, 02:55:22 AM »
Has anyone tried the Transcend 64gb 1000x? Thinking about buying a couple of those instead of risking the Komputerbay lottery.. :)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1106 on: September 17, 2013, 04:25:52 AM »
my raw test

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1107 on: September 17, 2013, 04:38:41 AM »
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« Reply #1108 on: September 17, 2013, 12:39:56 PM »
...will be a while due to international shipping both ways ;)

Hey dmk, where did you order the card from ? I've seen the Komputerbay cards on Amazon but they won't ship one to Australia  >:(

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1109 on: September 17, 2013, 01:54:46 PM »
@ 1%

For your information the autoexe.fir file does not work with the latest compiles form https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/commits
It works with the provided modules and autoexec.bin from the  [7D]AudioControlsFirBin.zip
I would like to know if it is supposed to work or not.  Currently when I do the firmware upgrade the camera freezes in the sensor cleaning step.

Bump.. Sorry

I am wondering if the autoexe.fir from [7D]AudioControlsFirBin.zip can be used with the recent builds I have copiled from: https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/commits
I assume the answer is no because it does not work.  But I just want to make sure in case that I am doing something wrong.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1110 on: September 17, 2013, 03:44:58 PM »
Bump.. Sorry

I am wondering if the autoexe.fir from [7D]AudioControlsFirBin.zip can be used with the recent builds I have copiled from: https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/commits
I assume the answer is no because it does not work.  But I just want to make sure in case that I am doing something wrong.

Maybe this autoexe.fir from 7D is specific for the 7D and not 6D (which is the build you copied from)
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1111 on: September 17, 2013, 04:01:59 PM »
Maybe this autoexe.fir from 7D is specific for the 7D and not 6D (which is the build you copied from)
Thanks for your explanation, but as far as I know /tragic-lantern-6d/commits is the general directory for all of 1% work and the 7D work is done from the same directory.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1112 on: September 17, 2013, 04:03:37 PM »
Hey dmk, where did you order the card from ? I've seen the Komputerbay cards on Amazon but they won't ship one to Australia  >:(

For initial shipment- I think you're right, they don't ship internationally (though maybe there's an expensive option to make it happen, try calling them). Luckily, my Mom lives in Texas :)

For replacements- they ship internationally for free/cheap (you might need to pay extra for tracking/expedited)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1113 on: September 17, 2013, 05:45:02 PM »
If its labeled 7D its 7D, if its labeled 6D then its 6D :)

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1114 on: September 17, 2013, 06:22:31 PM »
So, maybe I don't understand how RAW works exactly, but I'm curious as to how color profiles are handled. I typically use either the Cinestyle or Prolost flat color profile when I'm recording. As I've been tryoing to grade my test RAW footage, I've noticed that it looked a whole lot more saturated than I thought it should so I just did some comparison shoots in RAW and H.264. The H.264 (seen on top) looks flat like I would expect it to while the RAW footage (seen on the bottom) looks super saturated. Does RAW not apply color profiles?


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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1115 on: September 17, 2013, 06:27:24 PM »
So, maybe I don't understand how RAW works exactly, but I'm curious as to how color profiles are handled. I typically use either the Cinestyle or Prolost flat color profile when I'm recording. As I've been tryoing to grade my test RAW footage, I've noticed that it looked a whole lot more saturated than I thought it should so I just did some comparison shoots in RAW and H.264. The H.264 (seen on top) looks flat like I would expect it to while the RAW footage (seen on the bottom) looks super saturated. Does RAW not apply color profiles?



RAW is RAW.

Hence why the color profile isn't "baked" in.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1116 on: September 17, 2013, 06:33:48 PM »
Open the DNG with ACR.
Take out sharpening, standard is 25 I set it to 0
Add Luminance from 0 to 50
Adjust white balance with AUTO
I may do some adjustments under Tone curve (highlights, lights, darks, shadows)
Save all the DNG as TIFF

Import the TIFF into video editor (Vegas)
Adjust noise (NEAT VIDEO)
Add sharpening after noise reduction, use Convultion Kernel
Change Color Curves if required.
Export video

P.S.  I am now using Rawanizer to do a first automatic generation of video for a quick look.  I put the latest raw2dng.exe in the Rawanizer directory to make sure I am getting the latest conversion tool.  Finally if I decide that the video is good enough for further process then I do the ACR to TIFF process using the dng generated by Rawanizer.

 Some more details here:
RAW Video: PostProcessing -- Beginners Guide --
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5654.0

What's convolution kernel?

Also, when you use ACR, does it still flicker when you adjust the lights/darks? And can you set the camera profile? Mine only shows Embedded, can't select adobe standard, camera neutral, etc...

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1117 on: September 17, 2013, 06:39:10 PM »
Pardon me for interrupting. I am using one of 1%'s builds (I don't quite remember which one exactly, because there are so many of them, it is the one that cannot play back raw video), initially it has got plenty of ERR on the shoulder screen, after overhearing that 1%'s camera, which is equipment with CF cards faster than mine), was working fine,  I started to suspect that those crashes are related to write speed, so I reduced to the maximum resolution that the old firmware, which is before the great FPS override,  can sport with my poor old CF cards, and the result was a bit encouraging, only 1 ERR error the whole afternoon shooting for fun. And later I tried to boot the camera with a large preload like 512mb, the ERR error was just gone, with several test shots. It was a miracle. Thanks 1% for your good work.

Btw, I found that the autoexec.fir only needs to be flashed once, and the camera just FPS overrides fine afterwards.

corrects some grammar

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1118 on: September 17, 2013, 06:40:20 PM »
Hey dmk, where did you order the card from ? I've seen the Komputerbay cards on Amazon but they won't ship one to Australia  >:(

Take a look on Ebay. I just ordered one from there and it came promptly - I had to pay about 20 bucks for shipping but it was a lot cheaper than Amazon.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1119 on: September 17, 2013, 06:44:57 PM »
I found this tutorial in another thread when I was having debayering problems with Resolve and thought I would share here. Resolve 10 seems to have fixed that issue but I still get some very ugly colour moire between tree leaves etc when shooting in full sensor mode (even ACR/AE doesn't do away with that). This simple trick fixes it amazingly well.


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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1120 on: September 17, 2013, 07:52:19 PM »
What's convolution kernel?

I found convolution kernel to be an excellent tool for sharpenning video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28image_processing%29

I use it with Vegas pro 12
https://www.google.com.ec/?gws_rd=cr&ei=15Q4UqO-LI_e4AP20YHYCA#q=convolution+kernel+vegas+sharpenning

Also, when you use ACR, does it still flicker when you adjust the lights/darks?

I use Tone curve adjustments available in ACR (second tab after the Basic) and get no flicker.

And can you set the camera profile? Mine only shows Embedded, can't select adobe standard, camera neutral, etc...

On the bottom of ACR you will see the camera profile in blue colors.  If I click i can change profile
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1121 on: September 17, 2013, 07:53:48 PM »
RAW is RAW.

Hence why the color profile isn't "baked" in.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. The color profile doesn't really matter, does it?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1122 on: September 17, 2013, 07:59:03 PM »
Yeah, I guess that makes sense. The color profile doesn't really matter, does it?
Even white balance doesn't matter either )

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1123 on: September 17, 2013, 08:02:05 PM »
If its labeled 7D its 7D, if its labeled 6D then its 6D :)
Maybe a bit of confusion in here.  The binaries to follow the 7D development are here:
https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/commits

You even said so and I have been compiling 7D from these binaries.  See below


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Which binaries can I clone to follow your development?

Its all in the 6D repo but the caveat is that the dual bins must be signed. Still haven't figured out ADTG logging on the master side for shutter. I got HDR working... but it flashed in LV only, i know where it is on the master but dunno how to do MEM(address)+X and have it land on the master via RPC.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1124 on: September 17, 2013, 11:12:58 PM »
Hello everyone. I'm new  user from Poland.
Today I tested RAW 60 f/s in the normal 16:9 video mode is flattening the image horizontally (1728x694) and crop x 3 mode is normal (1792x 1008) but does not record 60 frames only 30 f/s
Is this normal ?