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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1000 on: September 12, 2013, 06:34:21 PM »
I'm curious as to the naming convention of RAW files.
The naming is related with the time of recording, it is not a sequential number.  i.e. 1618 = 4:18 pm
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1001 on: September 12, 2013, 06:37:53 PM »
I just shot an event video on a 5d Mkiii and a 7d, both shooting raw, all footage processed in Da Vinci.  The 5d stuff looked flawless.  As sharp as the C100, but with better color, and no compression issues.

The 7d stuff on the other hand, had purple fringes on all the highlights, and totally unusable aliasing and moire on most horizontal lines.  Short of a VAF filter or a stable implementation of the crop, I don't think I'd try to shoot this way again.

That being said, I still do prefer the look of the raw images to the h.264.  The work being done here is incredible.

Did you use a LUT when you were processing in Resolve? I have found the exact same ugly fringeing when using "Hunter's LUT" with my 7D raw footage. If I turn the LUT off and then process manually it seems to go away. Also, if I process through AE it is even cleaner (but this is the slowest possible way to work). I wonder, if this is a debayering issue, why 5Diii footage would look ok and if there is a way to change it.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1002 on: September 12, 2013, 06:39:05 PM »
question image quality wise is there a difference between raw and mlv?

Also do you still have sometimes a pink frame in mlv?

Which is more stable?

Just wondering.

Also:

just a quick question: - since the last update (britom's build using 0x05) when I try to record normal video the controls freeze and I cannot stop record. Need actually to remove the battery. Any solution on that one?

                                 - how do you do the 3x crop


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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1003 on: September 12, 2013, 06:47:16 PM »
MLV = slower with meta data
RAW = faster, no meta data

Other than that pretty much identical.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1004 on: September 12, 2013, 07:02:50 PM »
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1005 on: September 12, 2013, 07:05:31 PM »
any idea about my crash? Is that normal?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1006 on: September 12, 2013, 07:11:08 PM »
The naming is related with the time of recording, it is not a sequential number.  i.e. 1618 = 4:18 pm


Ahhhh, that makes sense. Thank you very much. It would be nice to have the option to choose how the shots get numbered. Sequential numbering makes much more sense if you're trying to keep track of your shots.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1007 on: September 12, 2013, 07:17:22 PM »
For the crash upgrade to a newer build... sound recording was freezing H264 till I fixed it.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1008 on: September 12, 2013, 07:26:29 PM »
For the crash upgrade to a newer build... sound recording was freezing H264 till I fixed it.

So I disabled Raw Video and recorded H264, but as soon as I hit Record, it displays on screen Audio disabled... how do I enable it?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1009 on: September 12, 2013, 08:07:12 PM »
First of all HUGE THANK YOU to 1% for continuing the development!! I have one doubt.. you said earlier that headphone monitoring was *quite* working?? I didn't understand completely.. I don't have all the adapters for the canon cable.. but as soon as I connect the usb into the camera the screen goes black.. is it possible or still no?

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1010 on: September 12, 2013, 08:27:00 PM »
Ok, this should fix motion detection.. uses edmac 05 like britcom. Wav menus are in audio like they should be.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B7D%5DEDM05MotDetectFix.zip

As to headphone, yea it works but I have to figure out how to unblack the screen since its on the master... and its double hard because I want it to work in non fir mode. The only adapter you need is the one that came with the camera + an RCA to female headphone jack converter.... I guess you could feed it to anything though.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1011 on: September 12, 2013, 08:51:30 PM »
Ok, this should fix motion detection.. uses edmac 05 like britcom. Wav menus are in audio like they should be.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B7D%5DEDM05MotDetectFix.zip

As to headphone, yea it works but I have to figure out how to unblack the screen since its on the master... and its double hard because I want it to work in non fir mode. The only adapter you need is the one that came with the camera + an RCA to female headphone jack converter.... I guess you could feed it to anything though.

Awesome... I see the Audio menu to record separate wav file now... will test it!

EDIT: test result (Thanks 1%)
1. Disabled Raw: record H264, it splits out a WAV file and a MOV file (I have option of "separate" wav file set)
2. Enabled Raw: record raw, it also splits out a Wav file but no audio recorded.

The WAV file from #1 has some pops mixed in with the audio... so weird... not sure what caused it... I tried to remove it but couldn't..."click removal filter" in Audition doesn't help any.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1012 on: September 12, 2013, 09:02:40 PM »
when i try to load fir on your new release i got this erro mesage  and camera freeze.
Update file cannot be found.PLease check the memory card and reload the battery and try again.
I have to remove the battery.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1013 on: September 12, 2013, 09:06:15 PM »
If i replace the fir with the fir from first realase,then after the upfate i'ts finised the screen goes black end camera refuse to responde.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1014 on: September 12, 2013, 09:22:12 PM »
Re download... it was signed as 5DII... I'll check for pops, maybe its a bug.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1015 on: September 12, 2013, 09:29:56 PM »
no change ,same update error.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1016 on: September 12, 2013, 09:38:25 PM »
updated with latest build. Successful. havent tested audio yet.
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1017 on: September 12, 2013, 09:46:12 PM »
I am finding the popping (sounds like a tazer).. to get rid of it you can record a blank track and invert but I have to see wtf its going on.

Make sure you take the sym file/fir/bin from the newest.. you may be getting a cached copy.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1018 on: September 12, 2013, 09:59:24 PM »
edmac 05 seems better as i havent seen any pink frames in my slow transcend... can anyone confirm?
7D Builds with RAW support: http://bit.ly/14Llzda

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1019 on: September 12, 2013, 10:04:36 PM »
I use to delete evrithing from the card befor i put new version on it
sym file its 36,2 KB date 12/09/2013 13:13
autoexec fir its 415 KB date 12/09/2013 13:15
autoexec bin its 407 KB  date 12/09/2013 13:13
This ones i have on my card end stil not update.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1020 on: September 12, 2013, 10:22:35 PM »
Ok, well I fixed the popping.. it was configuring audio too often. I'll just rename it and upload.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B7D%5DPopStop.zip

I should probably do some checks to make sure it only configures like this after coming out of play mode, but it works OK. See if edmac memcpy wav plays nice with recording really high bitrate video or if it holds it up. Theoretically it will be done copying wav data faster.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1021 on: September 12, 2013, 10:23:44 PM »
Did you use a LUT when you were processing in Resolve? I have found the exact same ugly fringeing when using "Hunter's LUT" with my 7D raw footage. If I turn the LUT off and then process manually it seems to go away. Also, if I process through AE it is even cleaner (but this is the slowest possible way to work). I wonder, if this is a debayering issue, why 5Diii footage would look ok and if there is a way to change it.

I wonder if it's due to the 14bit depth that the 7D footage has. As far as I know, Resolve only handles up to 12? Correct me if I'm wrong. I was having the same issues until I processed the footage through ACR in AE. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to go from 14 to 12 though. Maybe after you flatten your footage out, you can compress to a 10bit codec for working on your color grade.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1022 on: September 12, 2013, 10:24:56 PM »
I just shot an event video on a 5d Mkiii and a 7d, both shooting raw, all footage processed in Da Vinci.  The 5d stuff looked flawless.  As sharp as the C100, but with better color, and no compression issues.

The 7d stuff on the other hand, had purple fringes on all the highlights, and totally unusable aliasing and moire on most horizontal lines.  Short of a VAF filter or a stable implementation of the crop, I don't think I'd try to shoot this way again.

That being said, I still do prefer the look of the raw images to the h.264.  The work being done here is incredible.

Posted this accidentally on another post, meant to go here:
I wonder if it's due to the 14bit depth that the 7D footage has. As far as I know, Resolve only handles up to 12? Correct me if I'm wrong. I was having the same issues until I processed the footage through ACR in AE. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to go from 14 to 12 though. Maybe after you flatten your footage out, you can compress to a 10bit codec for working on your color grade.

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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1023 on: September 12, 2013, 10:25:21 PM »
Ok, well I fixed the popping.. it was configuring audio too often. I'll just rename it and upload.

so it can be downloaded from the same link (above) ?
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Re: 7D Raw Thread
« Reply #1024 on: September 12, 2013, 10:44:33 PM »
so it can be downloaded from the same link (above) ?

Ok, well I fixed the popping.. it was configuring audio too often. I'll just rename it and upload.

https://bitbucket.org/OtherOnePercent/tragic-lantern-6d/downloads/%5B7D%5DPopStop.zip

I should probably do some checks to make sure it only configures like this after coming out of play mode, but it works OK. See if edmac memcpy wav plays nice with recording really high bitrate video or if it holds it up. Theoretically it will be done copying wav data faster.