Canon 650D / T4i

Started by nanomad, August 03, 2013, 07:27:52 PM

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Rewind

Come on man, no need to be rude.

Let's make it clear.

This one is slow, don't buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-1-Memory-SDSDXP1-016G-X46/dp/B004JJN262

This one is good enough:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-016G-AFFP/dp/B007M54E08

Just make sure you can tell the difference between these two:

because the right one has a write speed about 21MB/s (at least in 550D and 650D — may be some UDMA stuff, not sure)

_DK_

A Sandisk 45MB/s is fast enough. I use a 16GB version and I get 720p.

Benchmark I just did:


In case you think I am a liar, you can also look at the tests other buyers did... They are similar
EOS 650D, 17-50 2.8, Nifty Fifty, Tamron 70-300mm
Sorry if my English is a little bad as I am not a native speaker

dsagilles

I can confirm a SanDisk extreme 45MB/s (at least the 32GB version) is fast enough for 650d RAW.

A ML Benchmark gives performance around 40MB/s both in read/write (Max write : 41.3 MB/s, Max read  : 42.6 MB/s).
Canon 650d |  Sigma 18-200 II DC OS HSM | Auto-Chinon 50mm f/1.9 | Minolta 35-70mm
DSLR Videos, photos and tutorials on http://www.gna-productions.com

Tongotongo

Hola, Raw 1728x576 no se aplico pinkdotremove  , solo se uso adobe dng conversión a tiff y color mas sony vegas 12 para video.

Hello, Raw 1728x576 pinkdotremove not apply, only use adobe dng to tiff conversion and color more sony vegas 12 for video.

[vimeo]http://vimeo.com/73629931[/vimeo]
Canon 650d Tamron 17-50 mm 2.8 canon 50 mm fijo 1.8 magic lantern

demetrisag

guys some of you are acting as if rewind does this on purpose. Maybe he has an older model of the same card or maybe he knows of an older model which acually does that speed or maybe he doesnt! Say the things better if you know them but I really dont see the point of rudeness here?

Rewind thanks man for your contribution on this, really you all guys are amazing!

RafaLibrenz

Quote from: nanomad on September 02, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

This is great news! :)
70D + 18-135 STM

Yoshiboshi3

Quote from: spider on September 02, 2013, 08:27:16 PM
Have a look at the first post of this thread.

Do I have to remove my current build? Do I have to wipe my SD card again? Do I HAVE to update to 1.0.4?

Am I actually missing out on any features to begin with? If so, which ones?

nanomad

Yes, you are missing bug fixes that bot ML and Canon did to your camera.
To upgrade just follow the guide to the letter.
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

dngrhm

Quote from: Rewind on September 02, 2013, 09:00:19 PM
Come on man, no need to be rude.

Let's make it clear.

This one is slow, don't buy it:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-UHS-1-Memory-SDSDXP1-016G-X46/dp/B004JJN262

This one is good enough:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Class-Memory-SDSDX-016G-AFFP/dp/B007M54E08

Just make sure you can tell the difference between these two:

because the right one has a write speed about 21MB/s (at least in 550D and 650D — may be some UDMA stuff, not sure)
I wanted to argue with Rewind until I clicked on the links he posted.  We are saying the same card is good.  Rewind is pointing out a bad card that might confuse people if we keep giving a "all 45MB/s cards are good" as I have also done.  Apparently the gold Pro 45 MB/s is an old, poor performing card.  Unless someone has this specific gold Pro 45MB/s card and gets better data rates, which would mean the 21MB/s is from a bad example.  From the language Rewind is using, I don't think this is the case.
EOS 650D + 620 | Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 STM + 55-250mm f/4-5.6 | Canon EF 50mm f/1.8
Mac OS 10.9 | PinkDotRemoval Tool | RAWMagic | DaVinci Resolve | FCP X

blade

Quote from: dngrhm on September 03, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
I wanted to argue with Rewind until I clicked on the links he posted.  We are saying the same card is good.  Rewind is pointing out a bad card that might confuse people if we keep giving a "all 45MB/s cards are good" as I have also done.  Apparently the gold Pro 45 MB/s is an old, poor performing card.  Unless someone has this specific gold Pro 45MB/s card and gets better data rates, which would mean the 21MB/s is from a bad example.  From the language Rewind is using, I don't think this is the case.

Please note that the red card is a class 10 card, and the gold is not.


eos400D :: eos650D  :: Sigma 18-200 :: Canon 100mm macro

OpenMind

Quote from: blade on September 03, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Please note that the red card is a class 10 card, and the gold is not.
Unlike this gold one, which is class 10 too...
The 32GB version is in my 650D and has a write speed around 40MB/s
Canon: 5Dc, 650D. EF 24-105mm f/4L IS, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS, 1.4x II, 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS, 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye, 40mm f2.8 STM, 50mm f/1.8 II, EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, Speedlite 600EX-RT, Macro Ring Lite MR-14EX, Sigma: 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM

blade

If that is true, inwould return it as is does not meet the standaards.
eos400D :: eos650D  :: Sigma 18-200 :: Canon 100mm macro

OpenMind

Quote from: blade on September 03, 2013, 10:05:45 PM
If that is true, inwould return it as is does not meet the standaards.
Nothing wrong with it... the 650D is the bottleneck. I remember values from 39MB/s to 42MB/s in the ML card test.
Canon: 5Dc, 650D. EF 24-105mm f/4L IS, 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS, 1.4x II, 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS, 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye, 40mm f2.8 STM, 50mm f/1.8 II, EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, Speedlite 600EX-RT, Macro Ring Lite MR-14EX, Sigma: 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM

divxclub

Amazing work guys, with latest build 9/3 I managed to get CineStyle from Technocolor Picture profile in to camera wtih EOS Utility (it would not show camera before) And everything seems to be working now. One question if possible. Let's say I am on Movie dial and using User Default 3 profile. Then I  switch to Photo mode (while still in M) and all my setting  from Video are still there. Including TechnoColor Cinestyle picture profile under User Default 3 and shutter and iso ...etc. Now here is the question is it possible may be with ML to make Video and Photo settings independent. With some default that user can set or just whatever was last. Let's say if I had 100 ISO with 1/50 shutter as my last settings then play with photos and had it set to 1/125 at ISO 400 then switch back I'd have that 100 ISO at 1/50 shutter back just like I had it set before I switched to photo mode. I hope I make sense and this feature is not available and I am to dumb to find it.

Also a bit off topic. I am trying to get this "film" look with color grading and 50 mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens.  This TechnoColor Picture profile looks very interesting after all this people all they do is color for past 75 years, that's what I shoot and I also have this Premiere plug-in from Filmconvert Pro guys and we'll see what's going to happen. May be someone can recommend a program or plugin to NLE that works good, and in general any advice on this picture profile from TechnoColor ?

Sorry for off topic just I am working on this atm decided to share.

Wazy

Quote from: nanomad on September 02, 2013, 12:45:43 AM

On a side note, 650D will support proper dual iso. Say hi to as much DR as our friends at nikon :-)

Noob here, and yes I've searched through the forum for the answer but apparently not hard enough. Here's the question, how do you access the dual ISO after the module is turned on? I already rebooted the camera and still not there. Thanks!

nanomad

The changes have not been published yet. I need to do more tests to make sure everything is in order
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

demetrisag

Dvxclub, why would you the Technicolor profile when you can use raw?

satriani

Cameras: Canon EOS 70D, Canon EOS 650D
Lenses: 2x CanonEF-S 18-135 IS STM, Sigma 50mm f1.4 DG HSM Art
Daily builds

demetrisag

Quote from: satriani on September 04, 2013, 10:35:38 AM
dual_iso is ready to play!
Have fun guys :)

It seems there is an error with dual iso. When activated it write on top of the screen ~isoless error ph -2~

After though i rebooted the camera 2-3 times it seemed to work

and then  it started again, Something doesnt sit!

nanomad

Correct, I think I know where the catch is
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

demetrisag

also it doesnt let me change the iso other than 100. Everytime i try it goes back to 100!

nanomad

When? Where? What ISO? The base or the "recovery" ISO value?

LiveView? or Photo mode?
EOS 1100D | EOS 650 (No, I didn't forget the D) | Ye Olde Canon EF Lenses ('87): 50 f/1.8 - 28 f/2.8 - 70-210 f/4 | EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 | Metz 36 AF-5

demetrisag

Quote from: nanomad on September 04, 2013, 12:11:15 PM
When? Where? What ISO? The base or the "recovery" ISO value?

LiveView? or Photo mode?

The base iso on photo mode for sure, though havent tried live view yet

RafaLibrenz

Quote from: demetrisag on September 04, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
The base iso on photo mode for sure, though havent tried live view yet

This is not the ETTR trying to make the measurement of light?
Happened to me. I had to wait for the ETTR finish your work.
70D + 18-135 STM

demetrisag

Iso base will change in liveview mode but not in photomode.
Iso base will not change even with dual iso off
and still will not change even with dual iso module Not loaded.