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Danne

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2013, 02:32:19 PM »
I have a transcend 64gb for my 5d mark 3. Works with 25fps 1920x1080. I think it,s a great card for the money

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2013, 03:27:16 PM »
There is a difference between the Transcend 1000x 64 GB and the 32GB ? cause the 64GB is little expensive for me

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2013, 06:34:08 PM »
I am able to achieve 1080p on my Mk3 with a 32GB Sandisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s card. I was surprised by this as this card is rated at 600x. But hey, it works great. I was not able to shoot at the Mk2's highest resolution continuously using this same card.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #53 on: July 23, 2013, 09:44:56 PM »
I can confirm that. I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.

On the 5D3:

1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames
www.pilotmovies.pl   5D Mark III, 6D, 550D

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2013, 12:52:54 AM »
I can confirm that. I have just bought Sandisk extreme pro 600x UDMA7 32GB.

On the 5D3:

1920x1080p 24 and 25 fps - continous OK
1920x1080p 30fps 618 frames
I stated this months ago. but mine was only 16gb

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2014, 03:44:43 PM »
Hi. Has anyone tried this one:
sandisk extreme pro compact flash card 32GB at ---160MB--- UDMA 7
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/compactflash/extremepro-160mbs/

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2014, 06:32:14 PM »
Hi All,

Just joined. Don't have the time to read all messages. If my topic is being dealt with already, just skip it. I have a SanDisk, 128 GB, 120 MB/s. Not fast enough to record 1920x1080 with ML. I tried all settings. A nice way around is to record with 1920 × 818 (almost the same as Panavision format). You might be able to get higher than 818. Didn't test it. I prefer this resolution, since it resembles closely cinema format.  And no problems anymore with recording continuously. Before I could not record longer than a few seconds.

Gunnar

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2014, 07:18:48 PM »
add the Komputer Bay 128gig 1050x

It handles 1080x1920 at 30fps flawlessly.  Even with the new .MLV format to dump out a .WAV audio file. 
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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2014, 10:25:48 AM »
Hi all, is any body tried Sandisk 32GB 1067x which is label 160MB/s speed?
I had one, but still can't reach that speed, can't even shoot 1920x1080 RAW video on 5DmarkII.
btw, I head that it will get that speed after low level format. but I can't find any EOS canon body have that option for me (I'd try 7D. 5DM1, 5DMk2, 5DMk3) . please help. (I'm feeling waisting money for this card)  :( I'm using EOS 5DMk2
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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2014, 01:32:01 AM »
Hi all, is any body tried Sandisk 32GB 1067x which is label 160MB/s speed?
I had one, but still can't reach that speed, can't even shoot 1920x1080 RAW video on 5DmarkII.
btw, I head that it will get that speed after low level format. but I can't find any EOS canon body have that option for me (I'd try 7D. 5DM1, 5DMk2, 5DMk3) . please help. (I'm feeling waisting money for this card)  :( I'm using EOS 5DMk2
Thanks.

http://kbsupport.cusa.canon.com/system/selfservice.controller?CONFIGURATION=1011&PARTITION_ID=1&secureFlag=false&TIMEZONE_OFFSET=&CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=49073

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2014, 03:14:25 AM »
add the Komputer Bay 128gig 1050x

It handles 1080x1920 at 30fps flawlessly.  Even with the new .MLV format to dump out a .WAV audio file.

I have this card and i don't agree at all. "flawless" would be that it can consistently record past the 4gb file mark and switch to next file without skipping frames. And at the beginning of the recording , for the first 10 seconds or so the buffer is struggling to keep up, then it smooths out till 45 sec (4gb mark) and then skips frame. A friend of mine gto the same card and has the same issues if not worse. If you are really getting this please share your settings as to how you got this.

I ordered a KB 64gb 1000x to try and THAT card is flawless. as soon as you press record in MLV with audio it says "Continuous OK" and the buffers never fills up more than 2/4 during file switching.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2014, 03:58:41 AM »
I have this card and i don't agree at all. "flawless" would be that it can consistently record past the 4gb file mark and switch to next file without skipping frames. And at the beginning of the recording , for the first 10 seconds or so the buffer is struggling to keep up, then it smooths out till 45 sec (4gb mark) and then skips frame. A friend of mine gto the same card and has the same issues if not worse. If you are really getting this please share your settings as to how you got this.

I ordered a KB 64gb 1000x to try and THAT card is flawless. as soon as you press record in MLV with audio it says "Continuous OK" and the buffers never fills up more than 2/4 during file switching.

Format your card in Xfat and enable larger files than 4gig in mlv rec menu.
Make sure you have setup your camera with the following settings in canon menu:
Image Quality = S3 JPEG (Not Smallest raw as I wrote first!)
Auto Lighting Optimizer = OFF
Long exp. noise reduction = OFF
High ISO speed NR = OFF
Highlight tone priority = OFF
Multiple Exposure = Disable
HDR Mode = Disable HDR
I also think you should deactivate autofocus if using a AF-lens.
All this is done to free up memory and reduce cpu load by other functions.
Help me out if i missed some more settings!

Can you save canon menu settings? Would be great to create ML-profiles if that is the case so people just can download a profile with all settings optimized for filming raw.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2014, 02:12:54 PM »
I've got all these settings. even with the exfat it only lasts till about 7-8gb. The card isn't really fast enough to be a reliable choice. If you used the KB 128gb 1050x and then used the 64gb 1000x you would know what I mean. I would be very nervous using the 128 on a paid gig and I would feel confident with the 64gb... That's the difference for me.
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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2014, 10:08:01 PM »
I've got all these settings. even with the exfat it only lasts till about 7-8gb. The card isn't really fast enough to be a reliable choice. If you used the KB 128gb 1050x and then used the 64gb 1000x you would know what I mean. I would be very nervous using the 128 on a paid gig and I would feel confident with the 64gb... That's the difference for me.

I have 64GB KB cards also and as you say they work without problems, 1050x seems to be a bit more on the edge. The one i own that does 110mb/sek in crystal diskmark seems to be almost enough for full hd cont MLV with sound. The other card that does 105mb/sek write however seems to be to slow. The 64Gb cards benchmark 115mb/sek in crystal diskmark and work without problems. So It seems that with the current build you need a card that does above 110mb/sek write to be stable for mlv cont record with sound. I think the KB 1200x would give you a good margin in write speed for stable MLV recording.

Raw_rec however works on all cards stable. It would be nice with a Raw_snd as an option to be able to record sound if using standard raw rec module. 

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2014, 04:42:55 PM »
Hey guys,

I have downloaded the Transcend autoformat program, but I do not see an option for a "low-level" format. The two options I see are "optimized" and "complete" ... Which one is considered the low-level format?

I have tried formatting both ways, and have still had skipped frames at 1920x1080 24fps RAW on my Transcend 1000x 64gb. I also have trouble getting the card to read in my lexar 3.0 card reader. Just curious which one is the low-level format, so I can stick with that and work on other problems from there.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2014, 10:11:41 PM »
Complete is the same as low level. All data will be overwritten.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2014, 05:54:40 PM »
I just posted this in the wrong place i believe...
Take a look:

(It's about a successful continuous recording with an x600 card)

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=10611.0


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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2014, 08:59:56 PM »
(I'd try 7D. 5DM1, 5DMk2, 5DMk3) . please help. (I'm feeling waisting money for this card)  :( I'm using EOS 5DMk2
I think even 5D markIII can write maximum 110-120 mb/sec, other your cameras more slowly
for 5D MarkII maximum may be 80 mb/sec

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »
is there any speed difference between sandisk extreme pro 160 16-32-64 gb?
And like the same transcend.
choosing between transcend 32 1000x and sandisk 160 16gb.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2014, 04:54:01 PM »
Has anyone done a detailed study on which low level format allows for the fastest writing to the card?

eg. 4K sectors vs 16K sectors and the like. FAT32 vs exFat. That sort of thing.

Cheers!

Paul :)

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2014, 01:16:06 PM »
so, where the module for the 30 p?

did not see it yet..

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2014, 07:21:05 AM »
I just bought some Lexar 1066x 64GB cards, and MacBoot is giving me an error every time I try to format them.  I'm pretty new to this, but have successfully formatted some slower SanDisk CFs.

Anyone have any success with the Lexars?  Anything I might be missing?

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2014, 11:35:03 PM »
I`m using  Sandisk Extreme PRO - 32, 160mb/s
I have 5D markIII
i can shoot without any problems :

1920x1080 RAW video at 24fps
1920x1080 RAW video at 30fps

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #73 on: July 06, 2014, 01:10:37 PM »
Hey guys,

I have downloaded the Transcend autoformat program, but I do not see an option for a "low-level" format. The two options I see are "optimized" and "complete" ... Which one is considered the low-level format?

I have tried formatting both ways, and have still had skipped frames at 1920x1080 24fps RAW on my Transcend 1000x 64gb. I also have trouble getting the card to read in my lexar 3.0 card reader. Just curious which one is the low-level format, so I can stick with that and work on other problems from there.

Your card reader's firmware should be updated to support UDMA 7 cards.

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Re: CF-Cards fast enough for 1920x1080p24/25 5D3 MLraw video
« Reply #74 on: July 26, 2014, 01:35:44 PM »
So it seems that the Komputerbay 1000x 064 GB is the favourite choice so is it a safe guess that the new and slightly faster 1066X version will do just as well?