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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #175 on: May 11, 2014, 07:04:58 PM »
What build date are you using ?1856x928 2:1 23.976p with audio is continous , check your setting .
And  if you have the NB from feb16th you get 1872x936 23.976
Continous also.
1st, no GD on when recording raw
2nd, live view Hack on no preview
3rd, fill buffer rate, 0 fastest (I use "0" or "1"with Lexar 1000x)
I think KB cards like buffer "4"
*note* this with HDMI device attach EVF & Ninja record.
In the canon photo menu select "SRaw2"this will speed up the cam.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #176 on: May 17, 2014, 08:19:13 PM »
Hi! Can anyone help me with using RAW video with my 6D? As soon as I start recording the live view hangs/stays still & I can't see what I'm shooting. Card I'm using is 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Plus 80mb/s.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #177 on: May 23, 2014, 10:01:36 PM »
Hi everybody,

hope you dudes can help me.
is it possible to record continous 24fps in 1920x1280 with mark III and a komputerbay card 64 GB 1000x or 1066X ????
wich wreitingspeed do i need to record in 24fps 1920x1280?
and is there any other possibility to record on ssd with mark III to get a higher writing speed.




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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #178 on: June 16, 2014, 10:31:00 PM »
Hi! Can anyone help me with using RAW video with my 6D? As soon as I start recording the live view hangs/stays still & I can't see what I'm shooting. Card I'm using is 64 GB Sandisk Extreme Plus 80mb/s.

Has to do with the option "global draw", must be turned on.
There's also an option with the global draw setting within the raw recording menu - this one has to be turned off I believe

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #179 on: June 17, 2014, 08:30:34 AM »
What build date are you using ?1856x928 2:1 23.976p with audio is continous , check your setting .
And  if you have the NB from feb16th you get 1872x936 23.976
Continous also.
1st, no GD on when recording raw
2nd, live view Hack on no preview
3rd, fill buffer rate, 0 fastest (I use "0" or "1"with Lexar 1000x)
I think KB cards like buffer "4"
*note* this with HDMI device attach EVF & Ninja record.
In the canon photo menu select "SRaw2"this will speed up the cam.

hey reddeercity, thanks for the response and I'm sorry that I just now saw this.

February nightly build? Wow. I was using an early May build at the time I wrote that. I'm currently using the last May build as all of the latest builds have failed.

I will try that february build with these settings. I have reading a lot about the Global Draw and buffers.
I don't have Ninja record, is it possible to still do this just in camera?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #180 on: June 19, 2014, 03:58:52 PM »
What build date are you using ?1856x928 2:1 23.976p with audio is continous , check your setting .
And  if you have the NB from feb16th you get 1872x936 23.976
Continous also.
1st, no GD on when recording raw
2nd, live view Hack on no preview
3rd, fill buffer rate, 0 fastest (I use "0" or "1"with Lexar 1000x)
I think KB cards like buffer "4"
*note* this with HDMI device attach EVF & Ninja record.
In the canon photo menu select "SRaw2"this will speed up the cam.

Hey reddeercity, I just tried the february 16th build with all of the settings you suggested, aside from the SRAW2 which I could not find and I was only able to record for 5 seconds and then it stopped recording. It also wouldn't allow playback. It would load up until the last 2 frames.

I am going to go back to the june 19th build and try these exact settings and see what results I can get.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2014, 03:50:26 AM »
Hello! Can anybody please tell me which is the best on budget CF card to record RAW on 7d? Can you post a link please, so I dont end up buying a wrong one.
BTW. The chart says the max. write speed of the card must be 80 MB/s. Does that mean the faster card wont work??
Thank you very much!
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #182 on: July 30, 2014, 12:35:20 PM »
In terms of cost-vs-speed, Komputerbay 64gb cards remain the best value - the 1000x or 1066x are both fast enough for the 7D (remember it's an old body, it can't take full advantage of the latest super-high-speed cards) and since there's barely any difference in price between them, go for the 1066x. They're listed on Amazon but make sure you buy from the Komputerbay seller account so you're getting genuine stock. Steer clear of the larger capacities, they tend to be slower. The problem with Komputerbay cards is quality control - they're cheap precisely because they're not as tightly-selected in factory QC, so you need to run an in-camera speed test as soon as it arrives (using ML), and send it back if it's way below spec. Komputerbay are fine about replacing slow cards but they're based in the USA, so elsewhere you just use Amazon's returns policy. I know people who will buy a few, find the fastest and send the others back  8).

If you want reliability and speed, you have no choice but to pay for it - the Lexar 1066x cards for example are 4X times the price, but it's very unlikely you'd get a dud.

Hello! Can anybody please tell me which is the best on budget CF card to record RAW on 7d?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #183 on: July 30, 2014, 12:57:21 PM »
Your 7D writes at 80 MBps max, but faster cards will work if you have them or buy them with the forethought of using them with a faster camera someday, otherwise why pay for speed you don't need?

Here's is a list of actual in-camera memory card speed tests you can refer to: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=12630.0

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #184 on: July 30, 2014, 10:29:34 PM »
Muchas Gracias DFM and jimmyD30!

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #185 on: August 01, 2014, 09:20:49 AM »
woundering if there's an update on 700D capabilities

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #186 on: August 11, 2014, 10:36:14 AM »
Hi guys,

i know maybe you said this so many times, but finally i'm gettin canon 50d to try raw video without becoming poor.
So now a  CF: which one? Don't need the fastest, don't wanna pay speed i don't need. What about komputerbay 64gb 1000x? Also with something more i've to take something better?

Thanks a lot

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #187 on: August 31, 2014, 10:20:46 PM »
I found some really useful numbers, but cant edit the video feature chart of the first post.
I also want to add a column on the Dual ISO RAW in video. For instance supported on 600D, 650D, 700D, then ....

I would also like to see continuous recording added for 2.39, and 2.67 aspect ratios.

http://www.ramasolaproductions.com/6.html

Above is actually helpful to evaluate the 5DmkII and 7D raw resolution specs, and 2K specs.

On the 5DmkII all at 24P
1856 x 1004 = continuous recording (this is close to 16:9, but needs VAF)
1728 x 972 = continuous recording
In crop mode: (3X crop)
2144 x 1076 = 339 frames
2144 x 898 = continuous recording (this is 2K at 2.35 aspect)
1856 x 1044 = continuous recording (this is near 16:9, and I do believe crop means min. aliasing).
On the 7D
1728 x 972 = continuous recording (currently this is the max res, but needs VAF )
In crop mode (currently only 30P):
2512 x 1200 = 95 frames
2240 x 1120 = 128 frames
1920 x 1080 = 213 frames
1472 x 828 = continuous recording  (the big thing here is min. aliasing).
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #188 on: September 14, 2014, 07:48:35 AM »
I found some really useful numbers, but cant edit the video feature chart of the first post.
I also want to add a column on the Dual ISO RAW in video. For instance supported on 600D, 650D, 700D, then ....

I would also like to see continuous recording added for 2.39, and 2.67 aspect ratios.

http://www.ramasolaproductions.com/6.html

Above is actually helpful to evaluate the 5DmkII and 7D raw resolution specs, and 2K specs.

On the 5DmkII all at 24P
1856 x 1004 = continuous recording (this is close to 16:9, but needs VAF)
1728 x 972 = continuous recording
In crop mode: (3X crop)
2144 x 1076 = 339 frames
2144 x 898 = continuous recording (this is 2K at 2.35 aspect)
1856 x 1044 = continuous recording (this is near 16:9, and I do believe crop means min. aliasing).
On the 7D
1728 x 972 = continuous recording (currently this is the max res, but needs VAF )
In crop mode (currently only 30P):
2512 x 1200 = 95 frames
2240 x 1120 = 128 frames
1920 x 1080 = 213 frames
1472 x 828 = continuous recording  (the big thing here is min. aliasing).


ShootMeAlready: Thanks so much for this post! I have been trying to figure out settings for shooting RAW for over 6 months. This website has been super informative. I didn't realize all of the benefits of the crop mode. Super awesome. Cheers.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #189 on: September 23, 2014, 10:07:14 PM »
I use 5d mark 2 and keep getting only 6sec of raw video on 1856x1044, 9s on 1600x900.Using lexar 1000x 64Gb card.What am i doing wrong

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #190 on: September 23, 2014, 10:10:22 PM »
Run card benchmark (Debug tab -> Benchmarks) to determine card's write speed.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #191 on: September 23, 2014, 11:17:53 PM »
I turn on liveview go to benchmark,card r/w benchmark ,movie mode 1920x1080 25fps,global draw off.....and it says write speed 23.3MB/s and read 11.7MB/s on 16384k buffer.Later it drops as buffer drops

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #192 on: September 23, 2014, 11:34:46 PM »
Sounds like a faked card. If you have an USB 3.0 cardreader connected to an USB 3.0 port you may run something like CrystalDiskMark or ATTO for Windows. Not that familiar with OS X.
If results are consistent try to return card to dealer.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #193 on: September 23, 2014, 11:48:58 PM »
Ok,i will try it in the morning.I also have one lexar 32 gb 1000x card that i bought with this "faulty",but only with ML where i don't see benchmark.I will install nightly build on it and test it.When these cards are "ok", and on mark 2 that i have,what is the estimated time that i can get at 1856x1044 25 fps?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #194 on: September 23, 2014, 11:52:36 PM »
Delete ML directory and AUTOEXEC.BIN and copy extracted nightly contents to card.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #195 on: September 24, 2014, 12:03:54 AM »
Hi Guys, on google docs document max res for 30p continituous rec on 5D Mark III says 1920x1080. I could only get 1792x1008 on my Sandisk 160mb CF card. Could those who could get 1920x1080@30fps advise which card has been used?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #196 on: September 24, 2014, 10:41:41 AM »
Delete ML directory and AUTOEXEC.BIN and copy extracted nightly contents to card.

I tested cards again on canon 5d mk2

32Gb lexar 1000x     write 22Mb    read 42Mb
64Gb lexar 1000x     write 24Mb    read 12Mb

So they are faulty?

Is there a software that i can use to test it,problem is that both my computer and card reader are usb2.0...is that problem?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #197 on: September 24, 2014, 10:50:54 AM »
I forgot to say,I formated both cards,and install nightly build (latest) only,tested after.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #198 on: September 24, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »
32Gb lexar 1000x     write 22Mb    read 42Mb
64Gb lexar 1000x     write 24Mb    read 12Mb

So they are faulty?

If these are the highest numbers you got and Global Draw turned off and no modules loaded: Looks like you've been betrayed.

problem is that both my computer and card reader are usb2.0...is that problem?

Sadly a good USB 2.0 reader will max out well below 40 MByte/s and there are lots of USB 2.0 cardreaders out there giving up at much lower numbers. So: Not a good test platform for high performance cards.   

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #199 on: September 24, 2014, 11:54:00 AM »
Ok,sadly i have been f****d  >:(

But if i get proper working card of that speed,how long can I film RAW on 5d mark 2 with 1856x1044 resolution.
I think i can do more than 6s with this faulty cards?