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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2013, 04:48:43 PM »
650d can record 1280x640 without any problem. (sony sdhc write speed 45mb/s)

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2013, 08:11:24 PM »
How did you get the camera to record that low of resolution?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2013, 10:35:18 AM »
is this chart updated?


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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2013, 10:54:00 AM »
is this chart updated?

In the First post, the chart that opens in the link is updated. The image of a chart shown is NOT.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #79 on: June 26, 2013, 11:08:01 AM »
Why is the 6D marked as only having good low light ability?  Is this something funky that's going on with video mode?

DXO says it has some of the best low light capability of any Canon camera (in raw photo mode).

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2013, 11:17:27 AM »
6D has line skipping, 5D3 doesn't seem to have. Line skipping affects noise too, not just moire. Some samples will help, if anybody has these two cameras and can do a comparison.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2013, 11:20:15 AM »
I'll fix up the samples for the 5D3 and post them in the other thread.  Won't be until tomorrow though.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2013, 08:41:02 AM »
audionut or Roman,

Could you edit the still image of the spreadsheet in the 1st post and make it a link instead that will redirect to the editable spreadsheet?

I think many will click on the chart and think its is current and up to date.

If thats not possible perhaps edit that image with a watermark across stating,"NOT UPDATED/CLICK ON LINK TO GO TO UPDATED CHART" or something like it.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2013, 11:11:24 PM »
updated chart to show max continuous recording for 5D2 at 30P.

With jun 27 "small hacks" max res continuous is at 1600 x 900.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2013, 01:18:36 PM »
I'm planning to buy SANDISK SDHC 32GB EXTREME (writing/reading speed 45mb/s) for my 650D for filming RAW. Does it worth to, or there are some better (mb cheaper with lower speed) options for 650D?  :-\
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2013, 03:03:16 PM »
I wouldn't go cheaper. The Sandisk Extreme seems to be optimal.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2013, 03:09:45 PM »
720p24 with SanDisk Extreme 45 MByte/s: Longer recordings do have dropped frames.
No such problem with SanDisk 95 MByte/s.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2013, 03:17:49 PM »
720p24 with SanDisk Extreme 45 MByte/s: Longer recordings do have dropped frames.
No such problem with SanDisk 95 MByte/s.

Ciao, Walter

Good point - if you can afford it, the Pro does have some advantages. I have noticed some slightly longer recording times with the Pro also.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2013, 05:20:04 PM »
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6D has line skipping,

In zoom mode the image is shorter than in regular mode and only like 2 or 3k wide.. Maybe there is a limit on how much they could sample with this camera. Sucks there is no crop mode like 650D/EOSM.

The sensor itself I think edges out 5DIII on low light.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2013, 06:48:27 PM »
720p24 with SanDisk Extreme 45 MByte/s: Longer recordings do have dropped frames.
No such problem with SanDisk 95 MByte/s.

Ciao, Walter
Thanks for the info sir! 95mb/s SanDisk Extreme seems expensive  :-[ BTW approximately how much  can I achieve with 45 mb/s?
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2013, 07:29:54 PM »
BTW approximately how much  can I achieve with 45 mb/s?

I just did a single test with 1280x640 and 24 fps. It terminated after about 2 minutes. Don't know how predictable a buffer overflow is. Don't know if the developers will find a way to push the write speed limit again. There is a gap between the numbers "plain" photo benchmark is giving and the numbers needed for dropless video.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2013, 11:58:21 PM »
What does "Max resolution in crop mode [2]" in column exactly mean?
I press the zoom button so I get 5x magnification in LV and look which resolution I can now set?

I want to fill in some more information about 650D tomorrow.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #92 on: July 07, 2013, 02:19:43 AM »
I would like to ask 5D3 owners:

could you please make a comparison video 1920x800 vs 1800x.... vs 1700x.... vs 1600x... (more or less) I think many 6D ( and maybe 5D2) owners would be interested how far away those lower resolution are in comparison to full 1920x800 in terms of sharpness and details. Please make it in 1x mode and with the same framing - I mean when picture is cropped increase a distance a little bit.
Thanks
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #93 on: July 07, 2013, 04:07:43 PM »
I have made such a comparison, 5D3 footage from neumannfilms website.

1920x800 vs 1808x756 crop vs 1728x724 crop.

Unfortunatelly framing is not accurate because lower resolutions are just upscaled crops from 1920x800.  YT compression sucks, thats why additionally I added dropbox link for direct download if you would like to see this better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-7UspVUb8

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvewws2bsal63gc/resolution%20comparison%20HQ.mp4

The difference is visible but not as much as I expected (I didn't use any special upscale app, just simply changed the scale in AE).

If 2,39:1 aspect ratio is good for your needs and 16-22 seconds are enough - 6D raw quality would be very similar to 5D2 and 5D3.

EDIT: today i tried upscaling with InstantHD - the result is astonishing!
When i was making an normal resize in AE by say 106,2% the footage becames a little softer, still very good but softer. With InstantHD is as crisp as original - the only difference is in framing. I am really amazed!!
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2013, 09:00:35 AM »
Why 40D in chart has exFAT and 50D doesn't?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2013, 05:51:18 PM »
Because everybody has write access?

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #96 on: July 18, 2013, 10:22:19 PM »
I want to fill in some more information about 650D tomorrow.
Ok not tomorrow, but now I filled some more data in and gave the 650D an own line, because I can't confirm the data for the other.

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2013, 01:13:30 PM »
SUGGESTION FOR COMPARISON CHART:
It is not correct to put EOS M to "bad", and 650D/700D/100D to "not bad" - they are equal in terms of RAW video capabilities.
Difference is only in VAF availability.
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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2013, 12:00:41 AM »
Hi.
Been reading through the forums.
I'd like to change my 7D to a Canon with Raw capability through ML.
One thing I'm not 100% clear on, monitoring.
Is it right that live view does still work whilst recording video but you can't play it back on the camera or on a computer until you've converted the footage to a usable format?
If this is so, is there any likelihood it's something that could be changed in future MagicLantern builds/is it something that's being worked on? Have I already missed it? Am I being dumb?
All help much appreciated with this.
thanks

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Re: Current raw video capabilities - All ML cameras
« Reply #99 on: August 05, 2013, 01:36:52 AM »
Hi.
Been reading through the forums.
I'd like to change my 7D to a Canon with Raw capability through ML.
One thing I'm not 100% clear on, monitoring.
Is it right that live view does still work whilst recording video but you can't play it back on the camera or on a computer until you've converted the footage to a usable format?
If this is so, is there any likelihood it's something that could be changed in future MagicLantern builds/is it something that's being worked on? Have I already missed it? Am I being dumb?
All help much appreciated with this.
thanks
go here http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=3974.950
this is the link  for raw 7D
Starts at about page 36 i think  :)