Short Film/Finalist in the "Summer In" film competition/50D RAW+Crop/

[Filmmaking_Dude]

Hey.
I was the DP/tech consultant/assistant editor on this production. We shot on the EOS 50D in 2000x920 RAW. 2.20:1 to be later cropped to 2.35:1.

Shooting cropped is a pain because you really can't see what you're framing. If you have the crop in the center it shoots a whole chunk to the left. It's about double the area you are seeing width wise so the center of the image would be the left edge of what you are seeing. If you move the crop one notch to the right it will shoot everything from the left edge to the right side 2x and the right edge is the center. And don't get me started on getting the right headroom. It's a constant trial and error. Crazy crop...

Took 7 days of shooting and we ended up with about 700GB+ of RAW files.
Made dng's with RAWMagic and converted all the footage to Prores Proxie in DaVinci Resolve to be edited in Premiere Pro CS6.
Then we tried coloring in After Effects with ACR but a lot of the shots were flickering so we decided to Encode the clips used in the timeline again with Resolve to Prores 422 and did the coloring in Premiere with RGB Curves and Tint.

Anyways. Here's the video.

Summer in the HolyLand

Behind the Scenes

[arrinkiiii]

Nice work Filmmaking_Dude 

[maxotics]

I find using ML's LiveView, am able to see the crop-mode image framed correctly.  However, flickers between color and B/W, lags the action, so is more or less useless to focus with.  Anyway, just in case you didn't know...  Very nice video!  Very nice!

[dariSSight]

Hey.
I was the DP/tech consultant/assistant editor on this production. We shot on the EOS 50D in 2000x920 RAW. 2.20:1 to be later cropped to 2.35:1.

Shooting cropped is a pain because you really can't see what you're framing. If you have the crop in the center it shoots a whole chunk to the left. It's about double the area you are seeing width wise so the center of the image would be the left edge of what you are seeing. If you move the crop one notch to the right it will shoot everything from the left edge to the right side 2x and the right edge is the center. And don't get me started on getting the right headroom. It's a constant trial and error. Crazy crop...

Took 7 days of shooting and we ended up with about 700GB+ of RAW files.
Made dng's with RAWMagic and converted all the footage to Prores Proxie in DaVinci Resolve to be edited in Premiere Pro CS6.
Then we tried coloring in After Effects with ACR but a lot of the shots were flickering so we decided to Encode the clips used in the timeline again with Resolve to Prores 422 and did the coloring in Premiere with RGB Curves and Tint.

Anyways. Here's the video.

Summer in the HolyLand

Great Kick Ass Filmmaking , I'm very confuse how you were able to see you shots correctly. When you use 5x crop(ML 3x) does it zoom in so close that you would have to back up an extreme amount that it would be difficult to film your subject without distance?

[Filmmaking_Dude]

Great Kick Ass Filmmaking , I'm very confuse how you were able to see you shots correctly. When you use 5x crop(ML 3x) does it zoom in so close that you would have to back up an extreme amount that it would be difficult to film your subject without distance?

I would have to review after each shot with that B&W 6fps distorted playback. And yes it does crop in considerably, so distance was required for each shot. You kind of get used to the faming and I did some test before the actual production to see where the framing would land. It was a lot of the time great guesswork and sometimes luck. In order to get the right framing I would guess where the frame should be, do a 2 second shot, play it back, move the camera, shoot a 2 sec shot, etc. until you get the good framing. Also I would switch the crop around, if he is on the right side of the frame I would keep the crop in the center so the right edge of what you're seeing is the right edge of the frame, if he is on the left side I would notch it to the right 1 notch so the left edge of what you're seeing is the left edge. Complicated stuff.  We would do many takes for each shot to get them right.
We shot most of the film with a Samyang 14mm T3.1 (which is pretty wide) and for some of the close ups we used Samyang 35mm T1.5. And for 35mm you had to back up quite a bit, well depends on the shot type.

Anyways it was a crazy process.

[ru31jan]

Seriously super nice filmmaking. One of the first shortfilms I really enjoyed watching untill the end.

I was just wondering: why would you go through all this trouble with cropping? Is it just the extra pixels? Because I've seen some stuff from the 50D without cropping that looked razorsharp too, definitly for YT and Vimeo use.

[Filmmaking_Dude]

I was just wondering: why would you go through all this trouble with cropping? Is it just the extra pixels? Because I've seen some stuff from the 50D without cropping that looked razorsharp too, definitly for YT and Vimeo use.

Well my dear friend mister director wanted to get the most out of this camera and insisted we shoot it this way. And truly this was a test project to the extent that we were testing out RAW and what's the most we can get out of the 50D.
And yes, we could have shot it without crop. In fact the last shot of the film (crane pull out from chalk drawing) is shot without crop, and it is pretty indistinguishable.
But we did it this way and it cost us 3x or more of the time it would've taken without crop.
Oh well.