Author Topic: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP  (Read 29909 times)

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2013, 04:38:19 PM »
Updated the template. Does it still need the timestamp hack?

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2013, 04:56:18 PM »
That's broken it completely.

Changing the exposure tag back to previous gets them to be recognized again.

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-"  <crs:Exposure>%s%d.%05d</crs:Exposure>\n"
Doesn't fix the timestamp problem though.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2013, 05:18:45 PM »
Can you figure out a template that's recognized as a recent profile? Minimalist if possible, without that ton of parameters.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2013, 05:20:57 PM »
Also it may convenient to investigate a more complete XMP file since ACR assumes it is 2010 profile and does not allow all the slider adjustments.  At least in my case some of the sliders are off to one side.

Instead of being central with highlight/shadow adjustments possible +-, 2010 makes them on the left side (as you see).  You can still make adjustments with them though, it's just that afaik, you can only reduce the highlights or boost the shadows etc without being able to boost or raise either one like with the 2012 process.


edit:  Will do a1ex.  Bed time here, I'll have a look at it tomorrow.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2013, 06:23:30 PM »
Couldn't help myself.

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<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Magic Lantern">
 <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
  <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/"
   crs:ProcessVersion="6.7"
   crs:Exposure2012="-2.69854">
  </rdf:Description>
 </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2013, 06:24:39 PM »
I tried: LRTIMELAPSE

put abc.dng and xyz.cr2 in

Folder 2010 --> LRTimelapse (in LR3 Mode) --> Inititialize --> Save XMP
Folder 2012 --> LRTimelapse (in LR4 Mode) --> Inititialize --> Save XMP

Header 2010: (LR3)

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<?xpacket begin="" id="W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d"?>
<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.1.0-jc003">
  <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/">
      <crs:Version>6.4</crs:Version>
      <crs:ProcessVersion>5.7</crs:ProcessVersion>
      <crs:WhiteBalance>Custom</crs:WhiteBalance>
      <crs:Temperature>5850</crs:Temperature>
      <crs:Tint>8</crs:Tint>
      <crs:Exposure>0.0</crs:Exposure>
      <crs:Shadows>5</crs:Shadows>
      <crs:Brightness>50</crs:Brightness>
      <crs:Contrast>25</crs:Contrast>
      <crs:Saturation>0</crs:Saturation>
      <crs:Sharpness>25</crs:Sharpness>
      <crs:LuminanceSmoothing>0</crs:LuminanceSmoothing>
      <crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail>50</crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail>
      <crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast>0</crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast>
      <crs:ColorNoiseReduction>25</crs:ColorNoiseReduction>
      <crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail>50</crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail>
      <crs:ChromaticAberrationR>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationR>
      <crs:ChromaticAberrationB>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationB>
      <crs:VignetteAmount>0</crs:VignetteAmount>
      <crs:ShadowTint>0</crs:ShadowTint>
      <crs:RedHue>0</crs:RedHue>
      <crs:RedSaturation>0</crs:RedSaturation>
      <crs:GreenHue>0</crs:GreenHue>
      <crs:GreenSaturation>0</crs:GreenSaturation>
      <crs:BlueHue>0</crs:BlueHue>
      <crs:BlueSaturation>0</crs:BlueSaturation>
      <crs:FillLight>0</crs:FillLight>
      <crs:Vibrance>0</crs:Vibrance>
      <crs:HighlightRecovery>0</crs:HighlightRecovery>
      <crs:Clarity>0</crs:Clarity>
      <crs:Defringe>0</crs:Defringe>
      <crs:ToneCurveName>Linear</crs:ToneCurveName>
      <crs:ToneCurve>
        <rdf:Seq>
          <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
          <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
        </rdf:Seq>
      </crs:ToneCurve>
      <crs:CameraProfile>Adobe Standard</crs:CameraProfile>
      <crs:LensProfileSetup>LensDefaults</crs:LensProfileSetup>
      <crs:GradientBasedCorrections>
        <rdf:Seq>
          <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
            <crs:What>Correction</crs:What>
            <crs:CorrectionAmount>1.0</crs:CorrectionAmount>
            <crs:CorrectionActive>true</crs:CorrectionActive>
            <crs:LocalExposure>0.0</crs:LocalExposure>
            <crs:LocalSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalSaturation>
            <crs:LocalContrast>0.0</crs:LocalContrast>
            <crs:LocalClarity>0.0</crs:LocalClarity>
            <crs:LocalSharpness>0.0</crs:LocalSharpness>
            <crs:LocalBrightness>0.0</crs:LocalBrightness>
            <crs:LocalToningHue>230.0</crs:LocalToningHue>
            <crs:LocalToningSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalToningSaturation>
            <crs:CorrectionMasks>
              <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
                  <crs:What>Mask/Gradient</crs:What>
                  <crs:MaskValue>1.0</crs:MaskValue>
                  <crs:ZeroX>0.5</crs:ZeroX>
                  <crs:ZeroY>0.6</crs:ZeroY>
                  <crs:FullX>0.5</crs:FullX>
                  <crs:FullY>0.2</crs:FullY>
                </rdf:li>
              </rdf:Seq>
            </crs:CorrectionMasks>
          </rdf:li>
          <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
            <crs:What>Correction</crs:What>
            <crs:CorrectionAmount>1.0</crs:CorrectionAmount>
            <crs:CorrectionActive>true</crs:CorrectionActive>
            <crs:LocalExposure>0.0</crs:LocalExposure>
            <crs:LocalSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalSaturation>
            <crs:LocalContrast>0.0</crs:LocalContrast>
            <crs:LocalClarity>0.0</crs:LocalClarity>
            <crs:LocalSharpness>0.0</crs:LocalSharpness>
            <crs:LocalBrightness>0.0</crs:LocalBrightness>
            <crs:LocalToningHue>50.0</crs:LocalToningHue>
            <crs:LocalToningSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalToningSaturation>
            <crs:CorrectionMasks>
              <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
                  <crs:What>Mask/Gradient</crs:What>
                  <crs:MaskValue>1.0</crs:MaskValue>
                  <crs:ZeroX>0.5</crs:ZeroX>
                  <crs:ZeroY>0.4</crs:ZeroY>
                  <crs:FullX>0.5</crs:FullX>
                  <crs:FullY>0.8</crs:FullY>
                </rdf:li>
              </rdf:Seq>
            </crs:CorrectionMasks>
          </rdf:li>
        </rdf:Seq>
      </crs:GradientBasedCorrections>
      <crs:HasSettings>True</crs:HasSettings>
      <crs:CropTop>0.0</crs:CropTop>
      <crs:CropLeft>0.0</crs:CropLeft>
      <crs:CropBottom>1.0</crs:CropBottom>
      <crs:CropRight>1.0</crs:CropRight>
      <crs:CropAngle>0.0</crs:CropAngle>
      <crs:CropConstrainToWarp>0</crs:CropConstrainToWarp>
      <crs:HasCrop>True</crs:HasCrop>
      <crs:AlreadyApplied>False</crs:AlreadyApplied>
      <crs:RawFileName>IMG_2483.CR2</crs:RawFileName>
    </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/">
      <xmp:Rating>0</xmp:Rating>
     </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:lrt="http://lrtimelapse.com/">
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxX1>0.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxX1>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxX2>1.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxX2>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxY1>0.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxY1>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxY2>1.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxY2>
      <lrt:ReferenceKeyFrame>false</lrt:ReferenceKeyFrame>
    </rdf:Description>
  </rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
                           
<?xpacket end="w"?>
Header 2012: (LR4 with new Sliders)

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<?xpacket begin="" id="W5M0MpCehiHzreSzNTczkc9d"?>
<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.1.0-jc003">
  <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/">
      <crs:Version>7.0</crs:Version>
      <crs:ProcessVersion>6.7</crs:ProcessVersion>
      <crs:WhiteBalance>Custom</crs:WhiteBalance>
      <crs:Temperature>5850</crs:Temperature>
      <crs:Tint>8</crs:Tint>
      <crs:Exposure2012>0.0</crs:Exposure2012>
      <crs:Highlights2012>0</crs:Highlights2012>
      <crs:Shadows2012>0</crs:Shadows2012>
      <crs:Whites2012>0</crs:Whites2012>
      <crs:Blacks2012>0</crs:Blacks2012>
      <crs:Contrast2012>0</crs:Contrast2012>
      <crs:Clarity2012>0</crs:Clarity2012>
      <crs:Saturation>0</crs:Saturation>
      <crs:Sharpness>25</crs:Sharpness>
      <crs:LuminanceSmoothing>0</crs:LuminanceSmoothing>
      <crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail>50</crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionDetail>
      <crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast>0</crs:LuminanceNoiseReductionContrast>
      <crs:ColorNoiseReduction>25</crs:ColorNoiseReduction>
      <crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail>50</crs:ColorNoiseReductionDetail>
      <crs:ChromaticAberrationR>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationR>
      <crs:ChromaticAberrationB>0</crs:ChromaticAberrationB>
      <crs:VignetteAmount>0</crs:VignetteAmount>
      <crs:ShadowTint>0</crs:ShadowTint>
      <crs:RedHue>0</crs:RedHue>
      <crs:RedSaturation>0</crs:RedSaturation>
      <crs:GreenHue>0</crs:GreenHue>
      <crs:GreenSaturation>0</crs:GreenSaturation>
      <crs:BlueHue>0</crs:BlueHue>
      <crs:BlueSaturation>0</crs:BlueSaturation>
      <crs:Vibrance>0</crs:Vibrance>
      <crs:Defringe>0</crs:Defringe>
      <crs:ToneCurveName>Linear</crs:ToneCurveName>
      <crs:ToneCurve>
        <rdf:Seq>
          <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
          <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
        </rdf:Seq>
      </crs:ToneCurve>
      <crs:CameraProfile>Adobe Standard</crs:CameraProfile>
      <crs:LensProfileSetup>LensDefaults</crs:LensProfileSetup>
      <crs:GradientBasedCorrections>
        <rdf:Seq>
          <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
            <crs:What>Correction</crs:What>
            <crs:CorrectionAmount>1.0</crs:CorrectionAmount>
            <crs:CorrectionActive>true</crs:CorrectionActive>
            <crs:LocalExposure2012>0.0</crs:LocalExposure2012>
            <crs:LocalTemperature>0.0</crs:LocalTemperature>
            <crs:LocalTint>0.0</crs:LocalTint>
            <crs:LocalHighlights2012>0.0</crs:LocalHighlights2012>
            <crs:LocalShadows2012>0.0</crs:LocalShadows2012>
            <crs:LocalSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalSaturation>
            <crs:LocalContrast2012>0.0</crs:LocalContrast2012>
            <crs:LocalClarity2012>0.0</crs:LocalClarity2012>
            <crs:LocalSharpness>0.0</crs:LocalSharpness>
            <crs:LocalBrightness>0.0</crs:LocalBrightness>
            <crs:LocalLuminanceNoise>0.0</crs:LocalLuminanceNoise>
            <crs:LocalMoire>0.0</crs:LocalMoire>
            <crs:LocalToningHue>230.0</crs:LocalToningHue>
            <crs:LocalToningSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalToningSaturation>
            <crs:CorrectionMasks>
              <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
                  <crs:What>Mask/Gradient</crs:What>
                  <crs:MaskValue>1.0</crs:MaskValue>
                  <crs:ZeroX>0.5</crs:ZeroX>
                  <crs:ZeroY>0.6</crs:ZeroY>
                  <crs:FullX>0.5</crs:FullX>
                  <crs:FullY>0.2</crs:FullY>
                </rdf:li>
              </rdf:Seq>
            </crs:CorrectionMasks>
          </rdf:li>
          <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
            <crs:What>Correction</crs:What>
            <crs:CorrectionAmount>1.0</crs:CorrectionAmount>
            <crs:CorrectionActive>true</crs:CorrectionActive>
            <crs:LocalExposure2012>0.0</crs:LocalExposure2012>
            <crs:LocalTemperature>0.0</crs:LocalTemperature>
            <crs:LocalTint>0.0</crs:LocalTint>
            <crs:LocalHighlights2012>0.0</crs:LocalHighlights2012>
            <crs:LocalShadows2012>0.0</crs:LocalShadows2012>
            <crs:LocalSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalSaturation>
            <crs:LocalContrast2012>0.0</crs:LocalContrast2012>
            <crs:LocalClarity2012>0.0</crs:LocalClarity2012>
            <crs:LocalSharpness>0.0</crs:LocalSharpness>
            <crs:LocalBrightness>0.0</crs:LocalBrightness>
            <crs:LocalLuminanceNoise>0.0</crs:LocalLuminanceNoise>
            <crs:LocalMoire>0.0</crs:LocalMoire>
            <crs:LocalToningHue>230.0</crs:LocalToningHue>
            <crs:LocalToningSaturation>0.0</crs:LocalToningSaturation>
            <crs:CorrectionMasks>
              <rdf:Seq>
                <rdf:li rdf:parseType="Resource">
                  <crs:What>Mask/Gradient</crs:What>
                  <crs:MaskValue>1.0</crs:MaskValue>
                  <crs:ZeroX>0.5</crs:ZeroX>
                  <crs:ZeroY>0.4</crs:ZeroY>
                  <crs:FullX>0.5</crs:FullX>
                  <crs:FullY>0.8</crs:FullY>
                </rdf:li>
              </rdf:Seq>
            </crs:CorrectionMasks>
          </rdf:li>
        </rdf:Seq>
      </crs:GradientBasedCorrections>
      <crs:HasSettings>True</crs:HasSettings>
      <crs:CropTop>0.0</crs:CropTop>
      <crs:CropLeft>0.0</crs:CropLeft>
      <crs:CropBottom>1.0</crs:CropBottom>
      <crs:CropRight>1.0</crs:CropRight>
      <crs:CropAngle>0.0</crs:CropAngle>
      <crs:CropConstrainToWarp>0</crs:CropConstrainToWarp>
      <crs:HasCrop>True</crs:HasCrop>
      <crs:AlreadyApplied>False</crs:AlreadyApplied>
      <crs:RawFileName>IMG_2483.CR2</crs:RawFileName>
    </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/">
      <xmp:Rating>0</xmp:Rating>
      </rdf:Description>
    <rdf:Description rdf:about=""
        xmlns:lrt="http://lrtimelapse.com/">
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxX1>0.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxX1>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxX2>1.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxX2>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxY1>0.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxY1>
      <lrt:ReferenceBoxY2>1.0</lrt:ReferenceBoxY2>
      <lrt:ReferenceKeyFrame>false</lrt:ReferenceKeyFrame>
    </rdf:Description>
  </rdf:RDF>
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<?xpacket end="w"?>

Main Difference:

The Tags Version and ProcessVersion -> Guees these define how LR processes the XMP (2010 or 2012)
The Tags in the 2012 XMP File have 2012 added to their Tags (see Exposure)

So I guess a correct 2010/2012 XMP Version Template should have:
a correct header
a correct Version and ProcessVersion Tag
a correct Exposure/Exposure2012 Tag
correct foot

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2013, 07:34:44 PM »
Try this (the template from audionut):
https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/20120a144c74

I guess the AlreadyApplied tag was guessed from timestamps if it was missing?

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
ML, we  have lift-off!!!!!!!!!  ;D
   
commit 20120a1

Only change I see here is the maximum exposure should be 3.9999 and not 4. 

So far 10 out of 10 could be read.  Will test 50...
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2013, 08:18:59 PM »
Compiled and shot 4 CR2 with AutoETTR

Seems OK for me in LR4, Exp value correct applied, Process is also 2012.

If someone else confirms --> SOLVED :)

THANK YOU !!

EDIT: Realized Renato has confirmed !

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2013, 08:22:06 PM »
I shot a few more... missed some!

Why, i don't know.  After running all through UFT-8 converter they are all working.

So I am not getting consistent results?
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2013, 08:44:02 PM »
Got the process 2012 working.  But it's still being a pita with accepting some XMP's.

Tried a bunch of other tags too, but it made no difference.
I think a1ex is going to have to delay the file creation and see what that gets us.

A hell of a lot of stuffing around for what appears to just be a file creation tag.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2013, 08:44:36 PM »
ML, we  have lift-off!!!!!!!!!  ;D
   
commit 20120a1

Only change I see here is the maximum exposure should be 3.9999 and not 4. 

So far 10 out of 10 could be read.  Will test 50...

Also correcting myself, again.  ACR will read +4 or -4.  When I made the test of 3.999 I saved the file and that was enough to make it work.  In reality the file was just not being read to begin with.  Therefor I had failure from the beginning.

I suck as a tester sometimes.  :'(
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2013, 09:07:40 PM »
I think a1ex is going to have to delay the file creation and see what that gets us.

Or, rightfully so, he'll make me do it.  I believe the term is "code monkey"!
I got it working for me, but I'd like some others to test it also before we end up with another fix in the commit log to satisfy adobe.

edit:  Removed redundant code.

I fired off a few shots reasonably quickly and they all worked.  But no significant testing as yet.  Might even be able to reduce the wait time further.  You can notice the 500ms delay.

edit:  tried 100ms delay and got 2 out of 12 not working.  200ms delay seems to be the ticket.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2013, 09:29:41 PM »
Also correcting myself, again.  ACR will read +4 or -4.

Is this process 2010.  Exposure values +-5EV work fine here with the new XMP's and process 2012.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2013, 09:33:33 PM »
Is this process 2010.  Exposure values +-5EV work fine here with the new XMP's and process 2012.

another testing failure.  I must have been using the 2010..  I tested again on your find and yes I can slide to +5 or -5 when I have the correct and latest profile.
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2013, 09:35:18 PM »
Sweet.

Just to confirm a1ex.  Don't need the AlreadyApplied tag.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2013, 09:58:38 PM »
Found something: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5208053

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There has been a bug, not sure in LR or PS, where if the XMP file date is BEFORE the raw-file date, then the XMP is ignored so maybe that could be happening.

I would prefer to avoid the delay hack, because it happens in a Canon task and will slow down image review and who knows what else. The proper way to do it would be to offload it to a ML task.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2013, 10:04:24 PM »
Hmm, I think I know what I missed.

When adding those XMP date tags, it probably wants these bloody things too

    xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/"
    xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/"

Give me a sec.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2013, 10:46:58 PM »
No good.  It's ignoring those XMP date tags.  I can take a hex editor to the CR2 files and adjust their date early and it still makes no difference.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2013, 11:22:38 PM »
I am perfectly ok with using the uft-8 converter.  It is so tiny and easy to use in windows. 

@ Audionut  Do you know of a program that could add or subtract exposure values to the XMP files (many at once).  I want to generate three files with different exposures so that I can merge them to HDR.  In the past I had no problems with ACR but now each image has a different exposure so it cannot be done quickly in ACR.  Maybe an option in ML to generate three different XMP?
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2013, 12:16:02 AM »
I can't think of one off the top of my head.

I'm positive I don't understand exactly what you're trying to do.
You're not trying to generate 3 exposures from the 1 raw file right?  That's not hdr.

I don't understand the problem your having with exposure values in acr.  Can you explain it better for me?

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2013, 02:15:26 AM »
Since the dynamic range and color depth is so good in RAW, I have cheated before where I take one .CR2 image and export it out of ACR at three different exposures.  Later I use Photomatix Pro to generate a very nice HDR.  I have also done this with Timelapse images by importing them to ACR and generating the three exposures which are then batch joining them, three at a time, to make a pseudo HDR Timelapse.  This works pretty good...

Now with these .CR2 files, each one has a preset exposure that make the Timelapse Flicker Free..  The problem I have is now to raise say 1 EV to all images, then export them, then lower exp by -2 EV, then export them.  Finally I merge the original with the +1, -2 to make new HDR image.  So I need a software that take the current corrected exposure and change all of them at the same time or via a script.

Maybe LRTimelapse can do this but I have not used it before. 
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2013, 07:21:31 AM »
Ah, I see.  Just to be clear, that's not HDR.  You can't increase the dynamic range of 1 file.  Yeah, I know there's heaps of progs out there that market it as such, but their lying.  You're only working with the dynamic range of that original file.  I think that process is more accurately called tone mapping (not 100 % sure on the correct terminology).  Anyway, I'll stop being me now.

If you can find something that can batch edit the value (eg: -1EV from current value), you could copy the XMP's twice, and batch edit each set with a different EV based on the original.  But honestly, I don't think you're going to have much luck unless you can find someone who can write something new with that process in mind.

edit:
My best guess would be the ExifTool by Phil Harvey with the ExifTool GUI

Not sure if it will do exactly what you want.  But if your register on the forums over there, you might be able to convince the devs to make the changes you need, or find better information on the process at least.

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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2013, 05:39:45 PM »
I AM LOST!! 5D3 commit  cecbc21d

ACR reads most files but fails 3 out of 20 aprox.

But the big problem is that when I used the utf-8 converter..  Now ACR cannot read any of them!  So now I have no FIX!

Just to make sure I tested ACR with previous xmp from june 3, 4rth, and 5th.  And it works as expected utf-8 converter always fixed the issue.

Just to make sure I formatted SD card and reinstalled ML.  No change..

Just to make sure I re-loaded Canon FIR 1.1.3.  No change..

I tried changing the format as previously with notepad+++ No change

I tried copying the old text format from working versions... No change

I tried previous commits form 5th, 4rth, 3rd.  No change, ie cannot open files when I process with utf-8converter.

Now I simply cannot read reliably the XMP.

Something changed in the camera itself and cannot be reverted back to the way it was.  I did have a crash and had to enter the date and time zone again, maybe that has something to do with it?
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Re: [SOLVED] POST DEFLICKER with XMP
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2013, 07:55:13 PM »
And I can confirm the same problems with Adobe Lightroom 4.2.
Can anyone else test these xmp files and report any issues?  I am working on windows 7 - 64 bit
Thanks
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