60D RAW video - it's working !!!

Started by marekk, May 24, 2013, 09:27:26 PM

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saeed2vfx

Quote from: QUATRO on May 30, 2013, 12:34:14 AM
@saeed2vfx: you don't open these files in photoshop - they are not .RAW 32BPC HDR files that it supports. You need to convert it to a DNG sequence using RAW2DNG. Once you have the sequence, you can import it into After Effects or other editing/compositing suite (subject to support for DNG sequences) and start playing around with it.

thanks for reply

I know this is video !! But in my laptop, just Photoshop know this file...

I have not Mac , Can you get me a free software for convert these file in PC ??  :-\

Teejo

Quote from: saeed2vfx on May 30, 2013, 08:02:09 AM
thanks for reply

I know this is video !! But in my laptop, just Photoshop know this file...

I have not Mac , Can you get me a free software for convert these file in PC ??  :-\

RAW2DNG is also for PC (and Linux). Check the post here for the downloadlink:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.0

saeed2vfx

Quote from: Teejo on May 30, 2013, 09:33:29 AM
RAW2DNG is also for PC (and Linux). Check the post here for the downloadlink:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.0

very very thanks my friend  :-*

Skorpio89

A test make on high ISO value comparison to h.264... 1600 - 3200 - 6400 ... without and with noise reduction on camera raw...



i record it on 1280x720 - no skiped frames, max 187 frames...

OrionnebelGalaxie17

What does actually the "DS_STORE File" do or stand for?

marekk

it's a hidden file from Mac, you can delete it

Quote from: OrionnebelGalaxie17 on May 30, 2013, 01:32:54 PM
What does actually the "DS_STORE File" do or stand for?

marekk


OrionnebelGalaxie17


marekk

I noticed some hot/dead pixels on DNG files..

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-HdscXfsKpgdXZGUUc0VTRVMEE/edit?usp=sharing

the only way to remove it is hot/dead pixel filter in RawTherapee

QUATRO

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but when you zoom in to 5x mode in live-view and then fiddle with ML RAW Video settings, it actually allows you to capture huge frames up to 2.5K width... But it obviously fills the buffer real fast, I managed only ~60 frames or so while 1280x544 goes on for nearly 800...

CarVac

Quote from: marekk on May 30, 2013, 01:37:17 PM
there is a new raw2dng with fixed banding

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/all

What banding? If I brighten up an ISO 100 image, it gets noisy but there's no pattern noise I can see. I do have a darkframe subtracted from it, so that could be why. The darkframe cured my magenta problems...

madmats

Hi!

I saw the 60D hack this weekend and decided to take it for a spin at a real fieldtest.
At the time when I installed it on my memorycards, the update#2 was the latest version of the hack, so I don't know what have changed since then.


See my fieldtest in the video below.
I present to you: Khoma at Gröna Lund in Sweden.


(Tamron 17-55mm 2.8 / ISO 200, 1/50, 2.8)


So I took my camera and three SanDisk Extreme 16GB 45MB/s, and one SanDisk Extreme Pro 16GB 95MB/s.
There proved to be no difference between that cards, since - as you know - the 60D only writes at a maximum speed of 20MB/s.

I filmed in 1280x544-resolution, in which I knew I wouldn't be able to record continuously - but I wanted to see how it would work out anyway.

My pre-tests showed that I could record 615-frames in that resolution on my memorycards - but what did surprice me was that I do have a few shots with over 670-frames. Don't ask me how that happened - all I know that it wasn't on the 95MB/s-card.

So what did I find out? Some of you may already have posted about this - I haven't read all posts.

The last shot on the card gets corrupt
- It displays some error with the Header-or-something when the memorycard gets full, and the last shot does not convert to DNG at all.
The camera does not realize that the memorycard is full
- It says [999]-exposures left even though the card is full

That's basically it. The 24-second clips those 615-frames provided for proved sufficient enough for a nice video, though I did miss a few opportunities waiting for the buffer que to empty. In this case the crop was no issue, rather the opposite.

It's all in all a decent raw-video-camera. Since most of us only produce for Vimeo or Youtube, not having FullHD raw isn't going to make this camera useless, I argue that the post-editing abilities of raw is a far more valued option, than having crappy lossy h264 in 1080p.
The upscale hides well in the 5MB/s compression on Vimeo anyway.

madmats

Quote from: QUATRO on May 30, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
I don't know if anyone noticed this, but when you zoom in to 5x mode in live-view and then fiddle with ML RAW Video settings, it actually allows you to capture huge frames up to 2.5K width... But it obviously fills the buffer real fast, I managed only ~60 frames or so while 1280x544 goes on for nearly 800...

What memorycards are you using when you get almost 800 frames? How many FPS? I get 615-frames with 25FPS, and 95MB/s memorycard - and I also get the same result with my 45MB/s cards!

QUATRO

Quote from: madmats on May 30, 2013, 07:25:41 PM
What memorycards are you using when you get almost 800 frames? How many FPS? I get 615-frames with 25FPS, and 95MB/s memorycard - and I also get the same result with my 45MB/s cards!
Well, I'm getting ~730+ frames at 1280x544 at 24FPS on my SanDisk Extreme Pro 32GB UHS-1 (up to 95 MB/s) card on the latest build. Pretty decent, I suppose...

Below is a screengrab from when I converted the sequences just now:

geodorno

Here are my first tests:

all @ 24fps, 2:3,5, S2 photo mode, global draw ON (magic zoom, working while recording ;)
Transcend 32gb SDHC Class 10

  960x408  -  200% to HD  -  continuous *
  960x540  -  200% to HD  -  3163 frames - 131,8s @ 24fps
1280x544  -  150% to HD  -  644 frames  -  26,8s @ 24fps
1600x680  -  120% to HD  -  225 frames  -  9,4s @ 24fps
1728x736  -  111% to HD  -  173 frames  -  7,2s @ 24fps

It's so nice to finally see the grain of my camara, and not some blocky compression artifacts!
I'm so happy with my Tokina 11-16 in this croppy days

Thanks so much to all the ML community!!! God just build a special heaven for you guys!!!

* (15,6mb/s, SD-card LED even stops lighting every few seconds, stopped at 4gb, didn't try exfat yet...)
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QUATRO

I guess it's safe to say that 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-1 card is the best for 60D RAW so far?
I'm getting ~750 frames at 1280x544 24p

bhursey

Quote from: QUATRO on May 31, 2013, 02:20:02 AM
I guess it's safe to say that 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro UHS-1 card is the best for 60D RAW so far?
I'm getting ~750 frames at 1280x544 24p

I was able to get 710 frames with  1280x544 @24 with a SanDisk extreme 16 gig UHS-1 class 10 45MB/s Really in the end we are all limited to the ~20 MB/s sd interface.

payne

Quote from: geodorno on May 31, 2013, 01:57:03 AM
Here are my first tests:

all @ 24fps, 2:3,5, S2 photo mode, global draw ON (magic zoom, working while recording ;)
Transcend 32gb SDHC Class 10

  960x408  -  200% to HD  -  continuous *
  960x540  -  200% to HD  -  3163 frames - 131,8s @ 24fps
1280x544  -  150% to HD  -  644 frames  -  26,8s @ 24fps
1600x680  -  120% to HD  -  225 frames  -  9,4s @ 24fps
1728x736  -  111% to HD  -  173 frames  -  7,2s @ 24fps

It's so nice to finally see the grain of my camara, and not some blocky compression artifacts!
I'm so happy with my Tokina 11-16 in this croppy days

Thanks so much to all the ML community!!! God just build a special heaven for you guys!!!

* (15,6mb/s, SD-card LED even stops lighting every few seconds, stopped at 4gb, didn't try exfat yet...)
wow 225 frames at 1600x900? are you getting more than 134 frames because of the build you are using i wonder? what nightly build are you using?

a1ex

How many buffers and what sizes do you get? These are printed when starting recording (try to grab a screenshot if possible).

I've got 31.4*8 + 23, which is huge, compare to 5D3's 32*4...

Nibbler19

I decided to compare the available dynamic range of the RAW to the standard compressed footage by shooting a high contrast scene and bringing up the shadow brightness. The RAW video is grainier than I thought it would be in the shadows (with roughly 50% noise reduction), that being said, it still looks way better than the H.264.


a1ex

Solved the boot issues, so you can now record raw with all other stuff enabled.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/aa25c804274a

Also, here's a simulation that tells you how many frames you are going to get with certain settings. I've used the numbers from this thread to check it and seems quite accurate.

https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/42196e77c62b

marekk

Thanks !!!

Quote from: a1ex on May 31, 2013, 10:31:58 AM
Solved the boot issues, so you can now record raw with all other stuff enabled.

geodorno

Quote from: payne on May 31, 2013, 06:57:13 AM
wow 225 frames at 1600x900? are you getting more than 134 frames because of the build you are using i wonder? what nightly build are you using?

hey,
notice, that its 1600x680, not x900... 2:3,5 aspect ratio
I like it and it helps with getting more frames...
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geodorno

Quote from: a1ex on May 31, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
How many buffers and what sizes do you get? These are printed when starting recording (try to grab a screenshot if possible).

I've got 31.4*8 + 23, which is huge, compare to 5D3's 32*4...

Hard to get the screenshot at the right moment. after 15 tries, i still can't get it at the right time...

I think this is 31*8 + 21

Is this the difference between 60d models?


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geodorno

Quote from: geodorno on May 31, 2013, 01:57:03 AM
Here are my first tests:

all @ 24fps, 2:3,5, S2 photo mode, global draw ON (magic zoom, working while recording ;)
Transcend 32gb SDHC Class 10

  960x408  -  200% to HD  -  continuous *
  960x540  -  200% to HD  -  3163 frames - 131,8s @ 24fps
1280x544  -  150% to HD  -  644 frames  -  26,8s @ 24fps
1600x680  -  120% to HD  -  225 frames  -  9,4s @ 24fps
1728x736  -  111% to HD  -  173 frames  -  7,2s @ 24fps

It's so nice to finally see the grain of my camara, and not some blocky compression artifacts!
I'm so happy with my Tokina 11-16 in this croppy days

Thanks so much to all the ML community!!! God just build a special heaven for you guys!!!

* (15,6mb/s, SD-card LED even stops lighting every few seconds, stopped at 4gb, didn't try exfat yet...)


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