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Quote from: Silkway on August 13, 2013, 02:21:28 PMYeah it has a look in stills as well. A different thing probably, but also unique and fancy.Yeah i thought 1% said that the reason of green cast is going beyond limits of actual ISO ability of canon 50d.If thats not the case, looking forward to know what is the reason...
Quote from: riccardocovino on August 13, 2013, 02:23:31 PM@silkway @andy600I don't know why but my first video with the latest TL had same green awful colors and it was impossible to recover.I turned off the camera, checked every setting, shot a second video, and everything was fine.But first video was exactly like that, awfully green.So, probably it's a matter of some setting.
Quote from: Silkway on August 13, 2013, 11:46:50 AMhey can u explane this thing? im interestedwhat is flatz preset? is it just to make flat unsaturared picture for color grading?i know u apply it in adobe camera raw in after effects import of dng filesbut do you need to apply it to every frame or to sequence?and why my after effects doesn't have output formats such ad DNxHDmaybe i have to update it?and what is it unique about da vinci and why use it?i mean can u suggest after effects plug in alternative to work with your flatz presetalso i cant even export to prores 4444 or anything...my adobe cs6 is kinda empty...this is what ive got after using your presetbtw this i did on 640 by 240 resolution raw on canon 50d on iso 1600 or so...coz i wanted to test raw video on old compact flash card from kingstonit is speed around 6 mb/sec 24fpscompared to my other card which is lexar x1000 55 mb/secthat can record something around 1585 by 900 or more not so bad for 6 mb/sec 24fps raw recording isnt it?
Quote from: D.L. Watson on August 13, 2013, 04:42:57 PMHey there Silkway. I'm not sure why your image is cast green - there must be a white balance issue. The preset does not affect your white balance - that you must set yourself using the eye drop tool in ACR.
Quote from: D.L. Watson on August 13, 2013, 04:42:57 PMThe flatz preset does not manipulate saturation - it uses tonemapping to get as much detail out of your shadows and highlights to be able to render to a more manageable file format for grading. You apply it to a sequence, but you can also use Bridge to apply it to all of your DNG's at once if you prefer. To get the DNxHD file formats, you need to download them from AVID here: http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Compatibility/en350875
Quote from: D.L. Watson on August 13, 2013, 04:42:57 PMDavinci is a powerful industry standard color correction software. Naturally, I prefer it for professional work. Unlike Adobe AE, it provides you with a RGB Parade to see if your grades/colors are broadcast legal.Here is a workflow video I did quickly covering the basics of this preset:
Quote from: Andy600 on August 13, 2013, 02:32:30 PMWas that after trying Dual ISO?
Quote from: Andy600 on August 13, 2013, 01:26:27 PMGood for you I know a lot of pros who would disagree with that. For ISO and DR, the 50D is inferior to most Rebels and certainly inferior to the newer cameras but it's still good for the money. TBH I just saw some footage from the Digital Bolex and IMO the 50D easily matches it.... probably betters it.I highlighted the ISO range not for dual ISO but for raw video (although it will have relevance to Dual ISO too) because if this is the case it will be better to shoot within the ISO limitations of the camera and increase/decrease exposure etc in post. It's all about getting the best SNR and DR from the sensor no matter what it's specific limitations are. Digitally amplifying ISO in-camera can be inferior to doing it in an image editing app AFIK.
Quote from: SebaVuye on August 13, 2013, 10:42:08 PMHey new to the forums, but not to magic lantern Just want to tell you people how awesome you are. Big love for magic lantern.I have a question to acctually,How come you can't record in 1080p without crop? Because of the cf card speeds or camera write limitations? Shooting in crop is a hell for framing :pAnd can you playback your recorded raw footage? Seems like I can't find that option?thanks!
Quote from: araucaria on August 13, 2013, 10:48:09 PMIn tragic lantern there is a ML preview which is a low fps black and white live view hack which shows the exact framing, it has some limitations but it works. You can't record 1080 outside of cropmode.
Quote from: SebaVuye on August 13, 2013, 10:54:13 PMAh thanks! Didn't know that. Is 1080p recording in no crop something realistic to archive or more like something impossible? :p
Quote from: Andy600 on August 13, 2013, 03:32:35 PM[OT]Just as predicted, the BMPCC is shipping without raw
Quote from: Andy600 on August 13, 2013, 05:17:44 PM@Silkway - might I suggest you look here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?board=14.0Grading and workflow has been covered extensively.
Quote from: Molinsky on August 13, 2013, 11:05:40 PMIt's impossible. I know it's hard to find answers in such big topic, but that was explained: the RAW image is from the LiveView image, which uses only one line of pixels at each three lines. So, 4752/3 is 1584.
Quote from: araucaria on August 14, 2013, 04:58:11 AMOkay, there have been popping up presets for After Effects/Adobe to get flat pictures, import or render them to 10bit and apply luts or whatever. I've also read people complaining about flickering in ACR.So far so good, I remember that on LRtimelapse (nice program) there is a general consens to not use highlight recovery, black , white, shadows,etc... because they are not linear but some "secret sauce" which depends on the scene. This doesn't matter to stills (which it was designed for) but when movement comes into play this can actually generate flicker. It does not always happen, but sometimes you get the flickering.To avoid this, I have "created" two a camera profiles which give you a very flat picture style and some desaturation. This is just a test as I'm not an expert but I think it works fine (tried out with the 50d raw video with cdng files). I will look into it again when I have some time. Here are the camera profiles:https://www.dropbox.com/s/sxxj82szbimxn8f/MLfilm%20slight.dcphttps://www.dropbox.com/s/8yhv4qsquaygs3s/MLfilm%20strong.dcpYou have to put them into c:/users/"your username"/AppData/Roaming/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfilesAfterwards they should appear under the camera calibration tab.
Quote from: PressureFM on August 14, 2013, 11:43:39 AMOn a Mac you have to: Download and install the DNG Profile Editor from AdobeFile -> Open an DNG imageUnder Base Profile load the custom .dcp camera profileFile -> Export Profile, which will save it in the correct folder, so you can use it in AE or PS
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