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ted ramasola

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1875 on: January 17, 2014, 05:16:18 PM »
I would say the temp is not unusual.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1876 on: January 18, 2014, 04:05:46 AM »
 @Kharak
I would say the same thing as Ted .
At 60GB Temp around 61-62 degree C
There is times it will spike to 68 degree C if I'm push it with multiplies card record with hdmi.
Stop for 5 -10 min cools down quickly . You will know when you camera to hot when it starts to have
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1877 on: January 18, 2014, 12:34:34 PM »
I would say the temp is not unusual.

I would even say: It's harmless!
Your sensor is build upon silicon transistors. And silicon can stand a lot of temerature (many hundred degrees). It's just, that components around (like housings, wires, etc.) will tire from too much heat.
But: Your camera has a build-in shut-down-safety-feature. And this feature starts long before the temerature becomes really critical!

In other word: Don't worry!  ;)

By the way: Transistors build into your computer operate all day long at temperatures beyond 50 or 60 degrees (irregardless normal cooling). And it does not harm them as well.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1878 on: January 18, 2014, 05:34:00 PM »
Dear a_d and fellas :)

Is it just me or is it like that for everyone that when you use Magic Zoom window during recording the writing speed is dropped to 20-22Mb/s from 64-70Mb/s?

This applies to at least builds from Oct-24, Dec-30 and Jan-14 which all of them I have tried. I have tried to solve this issue with reformatting the card multiple times and using different settings etc... So I am just not using MZ window during recording now, but the window would be very useful to have for refocusing during panning. Thanks :)

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RAW video: 1880x800
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1879 on: January 18, 2014, 11:07:17 PM »
Thanks for the info guys, got a 128 gig card but dont think i'll ever record that long a take.

but good to know I got ability to do so.. Well except for the recent posts about the recording stopping prematurely at 10 gig or was it 10k frames?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1880 on: January 18, 2014, 11:36:07 PM »
Current builds stop at 40gig.  A.d. 's Jan 6 MLV_rec.mo is ok. Non stop till card is full.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1881 on: January 19, 2014, 09:38:34 AM »
Folks, did you notice that files processed as a RAW + WMV package on the MLV Browser are more noiser after DNG conversion than files that are directly DNG + WMV! Or, is it just me?

Another thing, I just figured out how to get the MLV + sound thing going. Downloaded the latest build (19/01/2014) and replaced the mlv related files with the mlv module files. Ran the files through the MLV Browser and the rest is history. A few things that I have not been able to figure out still. When even I use RAW or MLV to record files, I am let down when there is no second chance - like going out with the kids and catching them playing and having fun. It happened yesterday and I just gave up on the whole thing and came back to the tried and trusted H.264 recording on my 5D3.

So my question - what is the most reliable and trusted fps, frame size, setting to record raw / mlv sound and video so that things always turn out as per expectation. I have 32GB Lexar 1000X, Komputerbay 128GB 1000X and Scandisk Extreme 95Kbps cards.

Next question - I have kept all the builds since the last 1 month or so. With the g3gg0's mlv module and the 19/01/2014 build in camera can I delete all the older ones from my computer.

Last question - what is the mlv_dump file used for?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1882 on: January 19, 2014, 01:17:45 PM »
Hey guys!

I am playing with mlv+snd and love it! Especially with Davinci Resolve the workflow got as easy as h.264 just a lot more powerful.

After processing the .mlv-file with the latest version of mlv_dump on my mac i always end up with wav-files that are a little bit longer than the raw-material and audio is not perfectly sync.


I use the latest a.d.-build from Jan 14. I do not use FPS-Override and Davinci Resolve is set to 23.976 fps.


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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1883 on: January 19, 2014, 07:00:35 PM »
Yes, its normal.

Almost always, nudge back the WAV track by 2 frames. Sometimes, but rarely, 3 frames. And the wav track is always longer by approximately 8 to 10 frames. Just cut it off.

If recording is cut abruptly, by say skip frames or card full. The characteristics of you file will be as follows.
The wav file will be much shorter.
The video file will have some missing frames in the tail end resulting in chunks of frames not continuous in number from the main video file. No biggie, just delete them in your timeline.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1884 on: January 20, 2014, 02:12:59 AM »
Folks, did you notice that files processed as a RAW + WMV package on the MLV Browser are more noiser after DNG conversion than files that are directly DNG + WMV! Or, is it just me?

I actually haven't but now you made me paranoid and have to go do a test.

Do you have any examples?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1885 on: January 20, 2014, 02:31:21 PM »
@Kharak
I would say the same thing as Ted .
At 60GB Temp around 61-62 degree C
There is times it will spike to 68 degree C if I'm push it with multiplies card record with hdmi.
Stop for 5 -10 min cools down quickly . You will know when you camera to hot when it starts to have
functions error.  :)

I'm want to do some test before I film a Economic Segment for a News show, I want to test out the MLV so I can use the Jan 6 build with Jan 14 MLV.SND? If I use .RAW I need to use Oct 24th build for Stability.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1886 on: January 20, 2014, 08:25:20 PM »
I'm want to do some test before I film a Economic Segment for a News show, I want to test out the MLV so I can use the Jan 6 build with Jan 14 MLV.SND? If I use .RAW I need to use Oct 24th build for Stability.
That's right,  Oct24th for .raw and mlv+audio jan14th for audio & jan 6th or any nighty built mlv_rec before that to jan1st.  :)
I'm curious, do you use any add on gear e.g. evf , monitor, backup(hard drive recorder) etc. ?
I'm doing a beginners guides video for ML Raw/MLV+Audio on the 5D2, for "Newbe's" . I will be cover
everything from installing ML raw, straight thought filming , post & trouble shooting problems,  and I just wanted some input for you  ;D

That's goes for anyone, if you have some input for this I would like to hear from you.
Specially if you had problem installing or filming, Thanks 

 

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1887 on: January 20, 2014, 08:40:28 PM »
@Jerone
It's an expected behaviour, 'cause your settings max out the usage of CPU and Raw Buffer.

@ted
Thanks, atleast I know what caused the bug now!

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Memory Hack On
Small Hacks On

@pholler
It's possible to stop in synch, however it generates more CPU Load and Buffer Allocation, that means less writing speed. Currently the stop concept is  sequential: the video and then the sound, so you'll get more audio data in general.

@dariSSight
Oct24 Raw: max file size is around 43GB and it fixed in the latest release.

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Tutorial: maybe a setup picture of HDMI Recorder + EVF?

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1888 on: January 21, 2014, 01:58:56 AM »
That's right,  Oct24th for .raw and mlv+audio jan14th for audio & jan 6th or any nighty built mlv_rec before that to jan1st.  :)
I'm curious, do you use any add on gear e.g. evf , monitor, backup(hard drive recorder) etc. ?
I'm doing a beginners guides video for ML Raw/MLV+Audio on the 5D2, for "Newbe's" . I will be cover
everything from installing ML raw, straight thought filming , post & trouble shooting problems,  and I just wanted some input for you  ;D

That's goes for anyone, if you have some input for this I would like to hear from you.
Specially if you had problem installing or filming, Thanks
I have monitors, rode mic and I'm looking into Hardrive offloads. I have a 7in Haier Monitor but I can't get an output from my Canon 5D Mark II. PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1889 on: January 21, 2014, 05:01:46 AM »
if you don't use magic lantern, can you output to your haier monitor?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1890 on: January 21, 2014, 06:52:19 AM »
I have a 7in Haier Monitor but I can't get an output from my Canon 5D Mark II. PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!
I did some research, on this monitor and what I found was its only component (RGB) and not HDMI.
If that's right then you need a hdmi to component converter box ,did a quick search and found this
 http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004I4WUSE/ref=asc_df_B004I4WUSE2948802?smid=A1UBX6JTHXVTF5&linkCode=asn&creative=395393&creativeASIN=B004I4WUSE&tag=shopbotca-20
but its $99.0 It maybe better to look for a hdmi monitor.   

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1891 on: January 21, 2014, 09:08:14 AM »
What do you people think.
In 5DM2 RAW mode: does it make sense to go for negative digital gain (-0,3 for example)?
And should i film in 100 or 160 ISO steps?

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1892 on: January 21, 2014, 09:21:53 AM »
In movie mode RAW, 160 = 200 = 250.

Digital gain only affects the preview.

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1893 on: January 21, 2014, 10:18:06 AM »
In movie mode RAW, 160 = 200 = 250.

Digital gain only affects the preview.

OK - So it makes no difference if i choose 160 or 200 or 250 (of course correctly exposed - ettr) ?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1894 on: January 21, 2014, 11:48:02 AM »
I did some research, on this monitor and what I found was its only component (RGB) and not HDMI.
If that's right then you need a hdmi to component converter box ,did a quick search and found this
 http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004I4WUSE/ref=asc_df_B004I4WUSE2948802?smid=A1UBX6JTHXVTF5&linkCode=asn&creative=395393&creativeASIN=B004I4WUSE&tag=shopbotca-20
but its $99.0 It maybe better to look for a hdmi monitor.

I have HDMI monitors but I want to put the Haier on a rig but I use a HDMI monitor. I think the HDMI ON the 5D Mark II is an microHDMI input right?
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1895 on: January 21, 2014, 11:49:58 AM »
if you don't use magic lantern, can you output to your haier monitor?
Checking, I will get back to you.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1896 on: January 21, 2014, 11:55:00 AM »
I think the HDMI ON the 5D Mark II is an microHDMI input right?

it is mini hdmi not micro. micro is smaller than mini.

Make sure you use HDMI to connect to monitor not the AV out cable.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1897 on: January 22, 2014, 01:31:53 AM »
@Jerone
It's an expected behaviour, 'cause your settings max out the usage of CPU and Raw Buffer.

@ted
Thanks, atleast I know what caused the bug now!

@Canon eos m
MLVViewSharp is the gui + mlv_dump and mlv_dump is the programm ...
Did you already try following settings on 5D3?
HaCKeD ON
Card spanning On (CF+SD)
Memory Hack On
Small Hacks On

@pholler
It's possible to stop in synch, however it generates more CPU Load and Buffer Allocation, that means less writing speed. Currently the stop concept is  sequential: the video and then the sound, so you'll get more audio data in general.

@dariSSight
Oct24 Raw: max file size is around 43GB and it fixed in the latest release.

@reddeercity
Tutorial: maybe a setup picture of HDMI Recorder + EVF?

Will try your suggested settings. Thx. One more thing, if I load the *.snd file on the module with the 20th Jan build on my 5D3 it crashes - over and over. How do I share the crash log with developers.
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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1898 on: January 22, 2014, 01:12:32 PM »
Hello guys,
How to get the "white rectangle recording frame" back?
I can not see the framing when using 2.35:1 mode, for example- like I used to.

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Re: 5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit
« Reply #1899 on: January 24, 2014, 06:07:06 PM »
Can't get a clear answer to this : does raw video + dual iso doable with 5D2 please ? My dual iso seems to be greyed out on live view and only active on photo mode.
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