5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit

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kidkaelen

total beginner posting..

I have everything installed.. downloaded the stable release installed it.. then dl the nightly build and replaced the appropriate folders.. I noticed the modules say WILL LOAD.. do I have to restart my camera everytime if I want to turn modules on and off? I remember maybe two months ago I could just press the load modules button and they would simply load.. then if i didn't want them I could turn them off just as easy? All with out turning my camera on and off?.

Doyle4

gotta turn camera off then on, but there is now a custom config loader, make different configs with what modules you need, eg: RAW video config, Photo config, h.264 config etc etc.

Doyle4

Quote from: vikado on October 05, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
what's are the steps for optimum speed write again?
like do i have to format the card on a card reader or inside the camera?

I format from camera BUT a computer format i noticed can be that little bit better, but with hacks on and camera warm up i get nice write speeds, i hit 83mb today :)

vikado

Quote from: Doyle4 on October 06, 2013, 02:41:29 AM
I format from camera BUT a computer format i noticed can be that little bit better, but with hacks on and camera warm up i get nice write speeds, i hit 83mb today :)
whoa. 83mb. that's awesome.
doesn't matter but isn't that close to the write speed for 1920x1080?
and which card?
5d2 user

Doyle4

5Dmkii can hit the full 1920x1080 unfortunately atm, my 83mb write was on my card benchmark test, too late here in UK to test actually filming but i will tomorrow on the largest resolution the mkii can @16:9, i usually film @2:1 but im actually interested my self to see what can be done now with this beast of an update haha.

reddeercity

Hi all  :)
Just check out the(f620a8f2b27d )Oct.,4 2013 Built from A.D.(the one with the disclaimer)
I guess i was Wrong! there is a little more speed still in 5D2  :)
I would suspect there is Better Memory management going on.
but we still have a 45 GB wall, which is better then before  it was  42GB per shot
So to the results,
all tests on  Lexar 1000x 64GB card
Without HDMI connected to Zacuto Evf pass-though to Ninja hdmi recorder.
1872x1012 1.85:1 AR @23.976p 76.1MB/s continuous up to 45GB about 13,500 Frame
Crop mode
2048x930  2.20:1 AR @23.976p  76.5 MB/s continuous up to 45GB (this unchanged from previous Built)
2048x1024 2:1      AR @23.976   79.8 MB/s  1,254 Frames

With HDMI connected to Zacuto Evf pass-though to Ninja hdmi recorder.
1872x1012 1.85:1 AR @23.976p 75.8MB/s 3875 Frames
1856x1004 1.85:1 AR @23.976p 74.8MB/s continuous up to 43GB  :D (perfect for backup recorder, close to full HD)
before i could only use 1880x940 with hdmi connected for continuous.
Cpu temp was up a little to 63 degrees C, before it hang around 58 to 61
Like the New Font & layout. :)
No crashes with the hdmi connected while recorder Raw.
Very good job A.D.


ch_d

Quote from: Doyle4 on October 06, 2013, 12:39:33 AM
WOW.... 83mb Write!!! Best update yet!!

what card do you use? 83mb/s seems very utopic ....
5D MII

Doyle4


ted ramasola

Quote from: reddeercity on October 06, 2013, 03:39:54 AM
Hi all  :)
Just check out the(f620a8f2b27d )Oct.,4 2013 Built from A.D.(the one with the disclaimer)
I guess i was Wrong! there is a little more speed still in 5D2  :)
I would suspect there is Better Memory management going on.
but we still have a 45 GB wall, which is better then before  it was  42GB per shot
So to the results,
all tests on  Lexar 1000x 64GB card
Without HDMI connected to Zacuto Evf pass-though to Ninja hdmi recorder.
1872x1012 1.85:1 AR @23.976p 76.1MB/s continuous up to 45GB about 13,500 Frame
Crop mode
2048x930  2.20:1 AR @23.976p  76.5 MB/s continuous up to 45GB (this unchanged from previous Built)
2048x1024 2:1      AR @23.976   79.8 MB/s  1,254 Frames


Testing 1872 x 1012 on 64gig 1000x komputerbay, it seems the 43-45 gig wall is also there. Strange that the datarate is constant at 75mbps then all of a sudden drops to 1.2 - 2 mbps past the 43-45gig mark. But yeah, it's already pretty usable. Its just something the user should take note of when having long takes.
5DmkII  / 7D
www.ramasolaproductions.com
Texas

reddeercity

Quote from: ted ramasola on October 06, 2013, 05:44:54 AM
Testing 1872 x 1012 on 64gig 1000x komputerbay, it seems the 43-45 gig wall is also there. Strange that the datarate is constant at 75mbps then all of a sudden drops to 1.2 - 2 mbps past the 43-45gig mark. But yeah, it's already pretty usable. Its just something the user should take note of when having long takes.
I have to wounder if its a Fat32 System problem.

ted ramasola

I remembered the KB tech guy talking about this issue. I can't remember the details but it is something they know about.
5DmkII  / 7D
www.ramasolaproductions.com
Texas

oddname

Is it just me or isnt the new layout working as it shold?
The 2 rows of info should be on top and bottom, but all on bottom on my 5d2.

Maybe im missing something, settings etc?

xNiNELiVES

A.d. can you update the changelog here on the thread. We are all wondering what changed.

guilhermemartins

Are you guys getting bigger resolutions or only more speed?
I have been using ML for all my production company`s jobs since the release of 2.3. most of them available at.
www.mariachisaudiovisual.com.br

robert.roth001

I just installed the latest build, upgraded from the basic alpha version. I'm very confused though, why is the max horizontal pixel length now 1872? It was 1880 on the last build. I understood why it was 1880 and not 1920 (canon just upscales to full HD from 1880). Either way, why did we lose those 8 pixels?

guilhermemartins


Quote from: robert.roth001 on October 06, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
I just installed the latest build, upgraded from the basic alpha version. I'm very confused though, why is the max horizontal pixel length now 1872? It was 1880 on the last build. I understood why it was 1880 and not 1920 (canon just upscales to full HD from 1880). Either way, why did we lose those 8 pixels?

On previews builds 1880 was an option you had to toggle ON.
I have been using ML for all my production company`s jobs since the release of 2.3. most of them available at.
www.mariachisaudiovisual.com.br

Doyle4

Quote from: ch_d on October 06, 2013, 04:19:04 AM
what card do you use? 83mb/s seems very utopic ....

76mb whilst recording dude, 1880 (largest one, cant remember the height ha) @2:1 76mb and 16:9 73.8

Sorry the 83mb was on the benchmark.

SpcCb

Quote from: robert.roth001 on October 06, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
I just installed the latest build, upgraded from the basic alpha version. I'm very confused though, why is the max horizontal pixel length now 1872? It was 1880 on the last build. I understood why it was 1880 and not 1920 (canon just upscales to full HD from 1880). Either way, why did we lose those 8 pixels?
It depends of the build you use.
Builds here: -> https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads may had the 1880px capability. But builds here: -> http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ don't.

robert.roth001

Quote from: SpcCb on October 07, 2013, 12:56:00 AM
It depends of the build you use.
Builds here: -> https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads may had the 1880px capability. But builds here: -> http://builds.magiclantern.fm/#/ don't.

Oh okay I see that. But why the difference? Different people working on those builds? If so, why would they have a difference in the max pixels?

bnvm

Quote from: robert.roth001 on October 07, 2013, 01:33:36 AM
Oh okay I see that. But why the difference? Different people working on those builds? If so, why would they have a difference in the max pixels?

The build that has 1880 is a.d's custom build it is the only one that has the option, it is based of the "official" nightly build with some of his additional tweaks. When all this raw stuff was very new there was work being done on the main code base and then there are specific people who were compiling the builds for each camera so that all us of non coders could have access to it before it was in the nightly builds. I am not sure of the exact reason but I do know that having 1880 is something that is unique to the MKII and to have that option in the nightly builds would mean a specific exception just for the MKII. It seems like most of the dev's prefer not to have those kinds of things to make code more portable to other cameras and don't feel it is worth it for only 8 pixels. Also image sizes that are evenly divisible by 16 are more efficient to write 1872 is 1880 is not. Chances are when the next release of ML comes out that has raw video probably will not have 1880 as an option.

a.d's build is a custom build just for us MKII users.

Fomo

The newest build (2013-10-04) definitly has a speed increase. I went from 75mb avg to 77mb avg with a Kompbay 64gb. The overlay on the newest version has some problems, the coloring is gone and the RGB scope is missing from the bottom left. I've installed on 3 different cards and they all have the same Overlay problem. Other than that I ran it all day yesterday during a shoot and it worked awesome. Fix the overlay and this will be the new go-to version for RAW video.

jessy

hello all,
I look for a moment realized on the progress 5d ii and i have installed the latest build of October 04, I have a 32 gb card Komputerbay 1000 x n but I can not manage to make more than 500 dng in 1880 x 1058 dng or 1000 with optional interface X.
What are the optimal power dampers for continuous shooting? what options they have to activate and deactivate? 24fps? small hack? auto preview? warm up card 128 mb, 1gb? standard interface, X, + feature? global draw on or off?
many questions that could help all the people who ask the same questions as me.
Even simpler, you can share a configuration, if so, could you share yours? thank you very much

lladron

Hi folks!
I'm new here but I've looked around for a while, there is one thing, (no not ONLY one thing :) ) but there is one thing that I am wondering now. I've purchased a kumbuterbay card 1000x, and going to record some RAW files, does it mather if I format the card in fat32 or exfat, I really don't understand that bit, or is it just for the mkIII-users? Files larger than 4 gig, will they still work in the standard format card? I've read the entire thread and haven't seen this questions. I'm sorry for stupid questions and bad spelling!

Cheers!

lladron

Quote from: lladron on October 07, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Hi folks!
I'm new here but I've looked around for a while, there is one thing, (no not ONLY one thing :) ) but there is one thing that I am wondering now. I've purchased a kumbuterbay card 1000x, and going to record some RAW files, does it mather if I format the card in fat32 or exfat, I really don't understand that bit, or is it just for the mkIII-users? Files larger than 4 gig, will they still work in the standard format card? I've read the entire thread and haven't seen this questions. I'm sorry for stupid questions and bad spelling!

Cheers!

Yes I wonder this as well, a little list of what fine tunnings that work the best :)

robert.roth001

I can't help you on the fine tuning, but what I can tell you is that the camera will create a single .raw file up until 4GB is reached. After that it creates a new file (I think it's a .rar) called a spanning file. When you go to extract the DNGs just drop all of the files into the extractor (I use raw2cdng) and it'll do everything for you.

Hope that helps!