5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit

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JackDaniel412

Built 29th may, some corrupt frame...


reddeercity

Hi all  :)
I just Tested the New Build (9eaa84d45f7b) for the 5D2
i have manage to record 1880x852 24p full card no Frame Drop
which is a Lexar 32GB_1000x. I'm in the process of checking for bad frames.
i check the preview in camera, works will, but can not control the playback.
would be nice stop play back at only time. I do like the Lv button for raw record its feels
more natral there. At less for me.
All in all very nice build at this point its Stable to put the the 5D2 in daily production
with RAW.

Update:
i just check all the frames, every thing looks Ok until frame 8926 of 10461 from that point there is pink  noise
on alternating frames until the end.
i recorded until the Card was full and stop recording on its own which was 30GB.
it seams that when you let the card fill up, it has problems with pink noise,
on shorter files i don't see this problem.
on record i only had 1 to 2 buffer Star at only time,  file was recorded @ 64.2 MB/s
i will try a lower setting  and stop before the card fill up totally


Hazer

Quick test with this build for the 29th -- I'm seeing write speeds of 68-69MB/sec on the KomputerBay 64GB 1000x.  Very nice indeed.  And optional AF-button use for recording.  Fantastic!  Thanks for this.

The Live view image is still active i.e. not frozen/hack3d during record.  Has that feature been activated yet on the 5D2?

ted ramasola

Thank you a.d.

The option which recording button to use is a nice touch. :)

Works as advertised. Tested with more than 4gig files. After breaching 13 gig at 1880x800 I knew it was already stable so I stopped recording. I was able to combined and open the files of more than 4,000 frames.

One bug is the playback within the file manager module doesnt seem to work and shows garbled characters on screen.

Delete functions work.
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t2scorp

Quote from: Hazer on May 30, 2013, 02:12:02 AM
Quick test with this build for the 29th -- I'm seeing write speeds of 68-69MB/sec on the KomputerBay 64GB 1000x.  Very nice indeed.  And optional AF-button use for recording.  Fantastic!  Thanks for this.

The Live view image is still active i.e. not frozen/hack3d during record.  Has that feature been activated yet on the 5D2?

I still have awrite speed around 62-64 MB/s

a.d.

@all with corrupt frames
Thanks for the bug report. The fixed of the pink cast in magnify caused corrupt frames (I'm guilty!), so we need to live with it for now. (Credits a1ex)
I've just added the support of global draw on!

@Hazer
It still doesn't work for 5D2! I removed it!

@ ted ramasola
You are welcome.

Hazer

Quote from: t2scorp on May 30, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
I still have awrite speed around 62-64 MB/s

Are you using a 1000x card?  If so, make sure of the following:

*Global draw is off
*Photo quality (in the stock Canon menus) is set to JPEG "L" and Raw photos are off
*All stock Canon on-screen graphics are turned off -- i.e. enter live view and press the "info" button until the screen is clear.

In a few subsequent tests I was getting around 67MB/sec but either way this is pretty strong performance.

@a.d.
Is it that we haven't figured out how to disable LV during recording yet on the 5d2, or is the 5d3 simply the priority and we haven't had time to port that feature yet?  Because if that saves a few more MB/sec, we can probably use full-res HD 1880x1060 for at least 1000 frames before buffering out.  Which would be pretty cool!

a.d.

You could use global draw on, if you like to, it automatically switch off during the recording.
What do you mean "disable LV"?

Hazer

Sorry -- was referring to hack3d mode, where the LV display does not update video during record.  If I understand correctly, this is worth a couple MB/sec write speed.  Which would be really helpful if we could get that working on the 5d2.

Kabuto1138

Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right place to put this info, but with today's build I was able to get 741 frames at 1880x940 and stable until my card filled up at 1880x854.

5d2 with a 16gb lexar 1000x

ted ramasola

Quote from: Kabuto1138 on May 30, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right place to put this info, but with today's build I was able to get 741 frames at 1880x940 and stable until my card filled up at 1880x854.

5d2 with a 16gb lexar 1000x

That is almost the same as my tests with May 29 build by a.d with 32gig lexar 1000x.
With ml menu=global draw off, stills menu=no Raw+jpeg "L"

1880 x 1058   365 frames

1880 x 940    1,406 frames

1880 x 854    stable/continuous

1720 x 968    stable/continuous

1720 x 860    stable/continuous

1280 x 720    stable/continuous

Crop mode 5x NO FPS over ride.

1280 x 1078   138 frames

1880 x 1058   156 frames

1720 x 968     305 frames

1600 x 900     830 frames

1440 x 810    stable/continuous

Crop Mode WITH FPS Over ride. Thanks Noix222 for the heads up.

1920 x 1078   268 frames

1880 x 1058   372 frames

1720 x 968   stable/continuous
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reddeercity

Quote from: Kabuto1138 on May 30, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
Hey guys, I don't know if this is the right place to put this info, but with today's build I was able to get 741 frames at 1880x940 and stable until my card filled up at 1880x854.

5d2 with a 16gb lexar 1000x

Was there only corrupt frames with the full card record?
i did a full card @ 1880x854 24p and the last 2500 frame of 10600 had alternating Pink color Frames with some
structure. I got a new Lexar 1000x 32GB, i'm going to test the new built today &
see if this happen on a full card record ;)

Kabuto1138

Quote from: reddeercity on May 30, 2013, 10:39:27 PM
Was there only corrupt frames with the full card record?
i did a full card @ 1880x854 24p and the last 2500 frame of 10600 had alternating Pink color Frames with some
structure. I got a new Lexar 1000x 32GB, i'm going to test the new built today &
see if this happen on a full card record ;)


the only trouble I'm having is that I am working of a Mac, I can't find the raw2dng that open files bigger than 4gb for Macs.  Any idea where can I find that?

thanks

ted ramasola

Quote from: Kabuto1138 on May 30, 2013, 11:57:24 PM
the only trouble I'm having is that I am working of a Mac, I can't find the raw2dng that open files bigger than 4gb for Macs.  Any idea where can I find that?

thanks

If the one linked on the 1st post of this thread does not work,
try the one linked on the first post of this other thread:
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5404.0
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noix222

you should get same recording frames with normal and 5x recording if you turn fps override ON [24fps|exact fps]...

thearc

Got 64 frames at 1880 X 1058 with a 64GB Wintec filemate pro (90mb/s read 45mb/s write)

ted ramasola

Quote from: noix222 on May 31, 2013, 04:08:08 AM
you should get same recording frames with normal and 5x recording if you turn fps override ON [24fps|exact fps]...

oops forgot about FPS over ride when doing crop mode. Thanks.  I'll update my results above.
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ted ramasola

Another nice feature of recording in Raw mode is that on my SWIT HD monitor, the resolution won't drop down to SD when recording!
In fact there is now no delay.

The bug is, it hangs the camera if you try to view the footage with HDMI cable attached ( ERR 70 )

The crop marks is not centered though and pushed to the left.

This would be good for focus pulling. :) Not for framing.

Things I also miss,

the proper frame view when in crop mode (5x)

the blacked area outside borders implemented by Pravdomil here; http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5655.0

I'm still using may 29th build by a.d since I don't have corrupt frames and I don't want pink cast image in 5x and 10x.
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Texas

a1ex

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I'm still using may 29th build by a.d since I don't have corrupt frames and I don't want pink cast image in 5x and 10x.

You are recording the results of Canon's edge detection algorithm overlaid on top of the raw image (people reported this as lots of bad pixels). This is the price to pay for non-pink preview. Sorry, I don't have a cleaner solution for this, so don't be afraid of pink cast for now.

ted ramasola

Quote from: a1ex on May 31, 2013, 06:31:23 AM
You are recording the results of Canon's edge detection algorithm overlaid on top of the raw image (people reported this as lots of bad pixels). This is the price to pay for non-pink preview. Sorry, I don't have a cleaner solution for this, so don't be afraid of pink cast for now.

Ok, I tested may 30th build.

The LV framing when in crop mode is now implementing a low res but proper framing for what will be recorded in B/W no pink cast.
However, upon start of recording the LV image reverts to pink cast with offset framing.

This is not ideal when the shot is moving.
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reddeercity

Now i'm getting All Pink Noise Frames Now :-[
This with the (d93b64292277) built from may 30th

i will go back to the May 29th & try a full card record @1880x800 and see if it happen agian :-\

a1ex

Quote from: ted ramasola on May 31, 2013, 06:54:44 AM
However, upon start of recording the LV image reverts to pink cast with offset framing.

If you keep globaldraw on while recording, it will not revert. I remember reading it's auto-disabled in some custom builds though, but I don't recommend doing that (sure, you can add it as an option).

ted ramasola

Quote from: a1ex on May 31, 2013, 07:23:13 AM
If you keep globaldraw on while recording, it will not revert. I remember reading it's auto-disabled in some custom builds though, but I don't recommend doing that (sure, you can add it as an option).

Tried it with or without global draw.

With global draw:
During preview= proper framing low res B/W
During record= offset framing high res pink cast

No Global draw:
During preview & record = offset framing high res pink cast.
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Texas

reddeercity

Will i'm having all Pink noise frames on a 21 GB file. :-\
when i recorded a short 265 Frames @1880x800 24p
No problems at all everything look like it should, but when you combine the 4 GB file together
to make a Big file All the frames are Garbage all pink noise >:(
Can anyone Shed some light on this?
i turn off everything you can i'm still using the may 30 built.
i have no Drop frame & only 1-2 buffer star at only time
is it the "total commander" Software or a bug in Writing the smaller 4 GB file?
Thanks in advance
can't work on this only more tonite time to  sleep

blackroom

same here all pink noise on spanned files with 30th build. tried 29th build same thing. i just overwrote 30th ml files with 29th maybe that's not good? is this corrupted footer issue?
non spanned shots are fine. komputerbay 64 gig 1000x.