5D2 RAW video Builds 14-Bit

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guentergunter

Quote from: pointbob1 on September 04, 2013, 04:34:35 PM
is the possibility to record past the 4gb limit baked into the ML raw module by default; or do I need to tweak something to make it happen past 4gb? THANKS
Or use RAWMagic if you're on a mac.
5D2 ML RAW + VAF-5D2b: http://vimeo.com/69350650

dd2020

S.B. Please helps me how to do the post processing work.
I have shot raw video on 5d2 and try the post processing work but get stuck.
I have donwloaded the DaVinci Resolve Lite 9.1.6 and don't know how to work thing out?
I try to find 9.1.5 ver. but there is none on their website (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/).

Thank you in advance.
dd2020

reddeercity

Quote from: dd2020 on September 05, 2013, 07:23:37 PM
S.B. Please helps me how to do the post processing work.
I have shot raw video on 5d2 and try the post processing work but get stuck.
I have donwloaded the DaVinci Resolve Lite 9.1.6 and don't know how to work thing out?
I try to find 9.1.5 ver. but there is none on their website (http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/).

Thank you in advance.
dd2020
What platform are you on ? PC, Mac
Personally i stay away from Resolve, it's  "node" basic and very hard to work with even professional
have a hard Time.
So if you are new to all this, use the "KISS Method" (keep it simple etc..)
if you have Adobe products its a simple workflow.
My workflow is :
Raw>DNG's>Photoshop-Tiff's>After Effects-ProRes4444
Then import to Final Cut ProX>edit>export master ProRes or H264.
So if you can give me some info i can see if i can help.  ;) 

dd2020

Thanks so much for your generosity reddeercity.
I run on PC platform.
Would you please explain more on the part "Raw to DNG's" ... how to do that?
: )

ted ramasola

You can go even simpler and skip photoshop.

Open DNGs in AE , do basic grade- export to whatever your NLE uses.


If you are in PC use RAWanizer to convert raw clips to DNGs.
Rawanizer automatically merges split files, its a windows interface and no more manual merging of split files via command line.
As you chug along using Raw you will realize the export of footage from AE takes a long time. Thats why learning Resolve was a must for me since it is much faster.

Say what takes an hour in AE will only be approx 30 min in resolve.
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reddeercity

Quote from: dd2020 on September 05, 2013, 08:13:42 PM
Thanks so much for your generosity reddeercity.
I run on PC platform.
Would you please explain more on the part "Raw to DNG's" ... how to do that?
: )
That's the easy parts, i run on both Platforms.
I will assume you are having problems with the extractions of the DNG's. 
So the first thing you need to do is if you have multiply spanning files.
you need to combine them, to do that's you will need the Command line.
so go to the start tab on window "7" type "cmd.exe"
that will being up the Command prompt window.
from there navigate to the folder that holds the Raw file.
to combine type:" copy /B xyz.RAW+xyz.R00+xyz.R01 xyz.RAW
where (xyz=name of file) & xyz.Raw at the end is the new name of the file,
this must be different from the original name of the raw file.
take the raw combine file or the single raw file if under 4GB.
open up raw2dng.exe, if you don't have it download it
https://bitbucket.org/a_d_/magic-lantern/downloads/5D2_WIN_raw2dng.zip   
drop & drag the raw file on the App.
make sure that raw file is in a new folder.
that about it. if you still have problems let know :D

gtsofilms

The only thing about resolve is that you get the pink fringing when you import the dngs, with AE the footage is very clean and looks great. I don't use resolve for that reason, even though it's faster. 
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https://vimeo.com/chester112

ted ramasola

Quote from: gtsofilms on September 05, 2013, 09:49:54 PM
The only thing about resolve is that you get the pink fringing when you import the dngs, with AE the footage is very clean and looks great. I don't use resolve for that reason, even though it's faster.

I've noticed the pink fringing as well but apparently they're not there, or they are so minimal in the exported file. In cases where it does show is when aggressive sharpening was applied, but the magenta channel can be tweaked.
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xNiNELiVES

Quote from: ted ramasola on September 05, 2013, 09:54:20 PM
I've noticed the pink fringing as well but apparently they're not there, or they are so minimal in the exported file. In cases where it does show is when aggressive sharpening was applied, but the magenta channel can be tweaked.

Is this the kinda stuff that looks like chromatic abberation?

gtsofilms

yep but in my experience it's been much heavier than normal CA from lenses.  The files I've exported from Davinci have had lots of magenta casts to the point where it's unusable.
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eatownleg

ML Raw is quiet reliable for serious work, thanks to developers!
That's video that I've made:



Shot on Canon 5D2 in Raw, some footage on 5D3 Raw (00:02-00:19, 00:36-00:56)

5d mk2 ML Raw July build, got up to 18-25 sec with 64Gb Transcend 1000x
Adobe After Effects + editing in Premiere Pro

xNiNELiVES

Quote from: gtsofilms on September 06, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
yep but in my experience it's been much heavier than normal CA from lenses.  The files I've exported from Davinci have had lots of magenta casts to the point where it's unusable.

Yeah shots especially out in sunlight are like this. Terrible. So how do I fix this? Defringe in post?

Kharak

Greetings from the shadows.

Been wanting to register for a long time.-

First off. thank you for giving me a new cinema camera, a.d, alex and all the other developers ! I love you!

I've had no problems to speak of with the raw builds, camera has only crashed twice since RAW first was released.
But I just can't get full resolution out of crop mode. There is a black border to the right of the frame, some 30 pixels or maybe more. I read awhile ago that you had to move the Focus box 8 times left and 7 times up or something like that, but I can't find that post in this thread. Also tried "Center for 5x RAW" in focus box settings, but that too gives me the black border. Can someone redirect me or tell me what I need to do to get full res out of the Crop mode?

Thank you,

Kharak. 

once you go raw you never go back

PressureFM

Quote from: Kharak on September 06, 2013, 11:39:36 AM
Greetings from the shadows.

Been wanting to register for a long time.-

First off. thank you for giving me a new cinema camera, a.d, alex and all the other developers ! I love you!

I've had no problems to speak of with the raw builds, camera has only crashed twice since RAW first was released.
But I just can't get full resolution out of crop mode. There is a black border to the right of the frame, some 30 pixels or maybe more. I read awhile ago that you had to move the Focus box 8 times left and 7 times up or something like that, but I can't find that post in this thread. Also tried "Center for 5x RAW" in focus box settings, but that too gives me the black border. Can someone redirect me or tell me what I need to do to get full res out of the Crop mode?

Thank you,

Kharak.

What exactly do you mean by full resolution?

Kharak

Quote from: PressureFM on September 06, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
What exactly do you mean by full resolution?

Say I record in 2:35.1 in 3x crop mode. I record in 2152x918 or something like that (don't have camera here). The DNG's I extract say 2152x918, but looking at the DNG's, the right side of the frame has a black border, something like 30 pixels on the entire right side of the frame are black. So I have to crop the DNG's and actually have 2122x918.

So what I am asking is, how do I get full resolution out of the crop mode?



EDIT: I will post a frame so you can see what I mean.

Update: How do I post images?
once you go raw you never go back

JulianH

Are you sure you are using (one of) the newest build(s)? This black border thing was common in the early days of ML raw.

Kharak

Quote from: JulianH on September 06, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
Are you sure you are using (one of) the newest build(s)? This black border thing was common in the early days of ML raw.

Yes, I have newest build (2013.04.09) and I have experienced the same in every build since I started playing with crop mode.

I must admit, I did find it weird that I did not hear anyone else speak of this issue.

Maybe a complete re-install of ML will help?
once you go raw you never go back

critycal

What is the fastest workflow in Windows? I would like to convert the raw files to a flat profile to edit right in Premiere.
BTW, I saw a video doing 50 or 60fps on the MK II, does anyone know how it's done?

ted ramasola

Quote from: Kharak on September 06, 2013, 12:26:58 PM
Say I record in 2:35.1 in 3x crop mode. I record in 2152x918 or something like that (don't have camera here). The DNG's I extract say 2152x918, but looking at the DNG's, the right side of the frame has a black border, something like 30 pixels on the entire right side of the frame are black. So I have to crop the DNG's and actually have 2122x918.

So what I am asking is, how do I get full resolution out of the crop mode?



EDIT: I will post a frame so you can see what I mean.

Update: How do I post images?

I just tested this resolution using aug 30 build. DNGs turn out ok . no black borders.

edit:

Just tested with sep 4 build . no blsck borders, dngs are ok.
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Kharak

Quote from: ted ramasola on September 06, 2013, 11:06:27 PM
I just tested this resolution using aug 30 build. DNGs turn out ok . no black borders.

edit:

Just tested with sep 4 build . no blsck borders, dngs are ok.

Thank you for testing this on my behalf.

This clearly shows it has something to do with my ML files (hopefully not my camera). I will re-install ML and get back to you on this.
once you go raw you never go back

Zao

Quote from: critycal on September 06, 2013, 10:39:50 PM
BTW, I saw a video doing 50 or 60fps on the MK II, does anyone know how it's done?

Where is this video, I'd like to see it. Until then I'm sure it would've been a 5d3 or a 7d...or twixtor etc
5Dii/T3i & a few super taks

ted ramasola

Quote from: Zao on September 07, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
Where is this video, I'd like to see it. Until then I'm sure it would've been a 5d3 or a 7d...or twixtor etc

The most the mk2 can do is 35fps (31.xx exact value) this is on 30P via canon menu.

60P possible with 7D and mkIII.
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ted ramasola

I hope devs will continue on improving the preview for crop mode. The images out of it is great detail wise.

Its such a waste if such a functionality cant be use in many situations as framing is difficult to predict when recording starts.

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Texas

reddeercity

I was wondering if any one has work with the
raw2cdng converter ?
I found and downloaded version-1.3.0 works very well.
Did any one have trouble with color or any image problems ?
I only tested it once & had no problems, but i don't see many posts
about it.
For me If this converter is stable, i can import the cdng's right in to
Final Cut Pro X and start working right a way without stepping out of
FCPX , which is a big bouns, & with the "Send to" App i can
work in Motion and then back to FCPX all in the same session.
This workflow will rival Adobe's in the same Fashion.
I tried to use "raw2dng" but FCPX would not recognizes the file.
But it dose see the DNG's from "raw2cdng"
And i do not see any difference between them or is there?
:D

ted ramasola

I tested them both with skin tones and color charts and I also don't see , to my eye at least, any difference.
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