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[reddeercity]

i can confirm the 42GB limit exist on Komputerbay 64GB 1000x card.

Thanks for confirming this 
today i had a short talk about this problem,
with my friend  who is a IT/Programmer who specialize in "Thin ware"
which is running  software on very low CPU cycle, something like that.
So he was say that blocks are now being recognize at some point in the recording process
and stops because it dose not know where to go, of course he was talking Over my head
But i think i understand the what he was saying.
All in all at best this is speculations by me and my friend, so take it with a grain of salt
   

[ted ramasola]

But i still see a 42 GB Wall for 2048x940 23.976p this is the Same for 1856x1004 ?
There is little buffing until 41GB then the Buffer Maxs. out then stops at 42 GB every time, on Lexar1000x 64GB.

Has any One being able to record over 42GB at 1856x1004 23.976 on 64GB Cards of any make ?

Reddeercity,

I wasn't able to reply to this as i had to go back to some older notes I made for testing the KB cards,

regarding the 42gig limit, this was discussed by me and KB techsupport  but it was a short conversation, I do rememeber that I reported several resolutions seem to stop around that size, approx 42.6 gig and yes it was mentioned that certain technical issues cause this. I forgot the details but it is.

Further tests, and I have also exceeded that with "manageable" resolutions but I recently stopped doing capacity stress tests as the cameras I use, the 5d2 and 7D would begin to get hot and smell exceeding the 70gig mark. Obviously these cameras were made when these capacity did not yet exist and also, originaly they were meant to stop movie recording at 4gig.

For your reference, using the 128 gig 1000X

1872 x 748 2.50:1 = continuous till full.

1856 x 790 2.35:1 = 19,192 or around 50 gig

1856 x 742 2.50:1 = 43,156 or around 100 gig

but curiously a lower res stops at 42.6

1728 x 972 16:9 = 15,578 around 42.6 gig

[reddeercity]

Reddeercity,

I wasn't able to reply to this as i had to go back to some older notes I made for testing the KB cards,

regarding the 42gig limit, this was discussed by me and KB techsupport  but it was a short conversation, I do rememeber that I reported several resolutions seem to stop around that size, approx 42.6 gig and yes it was mentioned that certain technical issues cause this. I forgot the details but it is.

Further tests, and I have also exceeded that with "manageable" resolutions but I recently stopped doing capacity stress tests as the cameras I use, the 5d2 and 7D would begin to get hot and smell exceeding the 70gig mark. Obviously these cameras were made when these capacity did not yet exist and also, originaly they were meant to stop movie recording at 4gig.

For your reference, using the 128 gig 1000X

1872 x 748 2.50:1 = continuous till full.

1856 x 790 2.35:1 = 19,192 or around 50 gig

1856 x 742 2.50:1 = 43,156 or around 100 gig

but curiously a lower res stops at 42.6

1728 x 972 16:9 = 15,578 around 42.6 gig

Thanks Ted for your Information, i have no tried those sizes.
It looks like the problem is when the Horizontal resolution increases
above 800 pixels that when the problem starts.
It may indicate that we could reaching a limitation here.

I will try to fill my 64GB card at a Horizontal less then 800 pixel(1880x800)
then go above that until see what res. stops recording.

For now i will Know to stop at about 40 GB and then restart.
Just like h264,  i had an idea , if we could implement auto record start when we hit
40 GB just like h264 at the 4 GB mark . Then it would almost be like continuous recording,
Just a thought 
 

[ted ramasola]

My concern is really the heat. At past 40 gig, I think your good as most takes really don't get to be that long.

If you need to get creative in say, landscapes, you can use FPS over ride and shoot at lower framerate to really have longer record time, and I think with lower fps, heat will take longer to build up.

[dossisman]

Here's a music video I shot with the RAW module.

[Africashot]

i can confirm the 42GB limit exist on Komputerbay 64GB 1000x card.

Probably unaware of its own limitations; my KB 64 gig card did 53.4 gb in 1856x1004 yesterday!

[reddeercity]

My concern is really the heat. At past 40 gig, I think your good as most takes really don't get to be that long.

If you need to get creative in say, landscapes, you can use FPS over ride and shoot at lower framerate to really have longer record time, and I think with lower fps, heat will take longer to build up.

Yes you are Right, i just what to know my limitations so i know how to Plan my shoots.
i do mostly Interviews which are about 5 to 10 Minutes takes.
Do you use frame over ride on all the time or something, i notice you said "you can use FPS over ride"
i always have it  on , just wondering .

[ted ramasola]

Yes to are Right, i just what to know my limitations so i know how to Plan my shoots.
i do mostly Interviews which are about 5 to 10 Minutes takes.
Do you use frame over ride on all the time or something, i notice you said "you can use FPS over ride"
i always have it  on , just wondering .

with the 5d2, if your always using raw, I guess its best practices to have it always on at 23.976 so that when you use crop mode(which is 30p by default) you are always at 23.976 with fps override.

also when using "creative artsy shots" like wide cityscapes or landscapes you can use lower FPS to get timelapse effect and also longer record times with higher resolutions.

[reddeercity]

with the 5d2, if your always using raw, I guess its best practices to have it always on at 23.976 so that when you use crop mode(which is 30p by default) you are always at 23.976 with fps override.

also when using "creative artsy shots" like wide cityscapes or landscapes you can use lower FPS to get timelapse effect and also longer record times with higher resolutions.

Thanks for the tips 
i just tried 1872 x 748 2.50:1 , and my card stop at 60 GB,
i guess Lexar 1000x  are not as fast as KB.
So i'm good we 1856x1004 for 40GB. at lest i know i will get 9 Safe minutes.
   

[ted ramasola]

Note that if you have a 64 gig card it won't actually give you 64gig but
59.6 GB (63,997,534,400 bytes), so you actually filled up your card.

in my test with 1728 x 972 at 24P

thats a Length/duration of: 15:08 min
# frames: 21,763

[reddeercity]

Note that if you have a 64 gig card it won't actually give you 64gig but
59.6 GB (63,997,534,400 bytes), so you actually filled up your card.

in my test with 1728 x 972 at 24P

thats a Length/duration of: 15:08 min
# frames: 21,763

Yes , i see my mistake in math.
i ended up with 24,850  at 23.976p  1872 x 748 = 17.2 min.

[Doyle4]

Here's a music video I shot with the RAW module.

Very nice indeed!

[rawmania]

Here's a music video I shot with the RAW module.

Very nice!
Do you wanted that cyan magenta look specially or it is from Resolve?
Best regards

[Stuntfoto]

Hello! Sorry for my English) What frame rate real make Canon 5d markII?
All my tests have drop frame ( every 5 ) with  strobe effect ,  or low speed 20-21 fs with time laps effect) and trouble sound synchronization....
Please help))) memory card 64gb 1000x
I can look good raw tests on youtube, but don't no where my error...
Thank you so much!
     

[F.T.I. ARMY]

QUESTION! What ratio are you shooting at to stretch the entire 1080p and how are you resizing it? I cant figure it out.................

[JBTML]

Hello 5d2 forum folks,

I've been hanging out in the 50D forum for awhile but I think I'm ready to put the RAW on my 5D.  I know there are many builds out there but I'm wondering what is the latest "stable" build that people are liking.   Not looking for any frills more on the stable end.  Any links would be great, I know that the latest aren't on the main page.

Thanks All!!!!

[ted ramasola]

it's on the first post.

[Doyle4]

it's on the first post.

On this section

[dossisman]

Thanks!

The teal/orange grade was applied in post. The Resolve round-trip workflow gave me problems with Premiere, so I ended up grading everything in After Effects.

Very nice!
Do you wanted that cyan magenta look specially or it is from Resolve?
Best regards

[dossisman]

Thank you!

I wanted to put the camera through it's paces and this video was perfect for it.  Dark scenes for the performance, daylight scenes for the story.  I LOVE the post flexibility of the Raw module.

Very nice indeed!

[dariSSight]

What are the .EN files (RAW REC.EN, ETTR.EN, DUAL_ISO.EN, FILE_MAN.EN and AUTOEXPO.EN) that appears on my CF card?

[disjecta]

If this is not appropriate for this forum, I apologize and feel free to remove it. I'm selling a brand new VAF-5D2b Moire / Aliasing Filter. If anyone is interested, PM me.

[Yaros525]

a.d. , maybe you can help me somehow? Can't get usb stream while RAW Video is ON.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=8081.0

Thanks!

[pointbob1]

is the possibility to record past the 4gb limit baked into the ML raw module by default; or do I need to tweak something to make it happen past 4gb? THANKS

[vikado]

is the possibility to record past the 4gb limit baked into the ML raw module by default; or do I need to tweak something to make it happen past 4gb? THANKS

its a fat32 limitation. exfat formated cards like the mark iii has can record past 4gb.
what magic lantern does is that it will keep recording, but it will break down the files into <4gb files.
what you then do, is a simple drop and drag of those spanned files into a program like rawanizer/raw2cdng and the utility will automitically process those files into a single DNG sequence.