Author Topic: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III (Read 788055 times)

pholler · « **Reply #575 on:** July 05, 2015, 03:58:50 PM »

Well i also tried you config and activating RGB-Zebras and Full Histogram and without peaking i do get bad frames about every three minutes. It's not a focus peaking issue. Propably it always happens when cpu-load is getting high.

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #576 on:** July 05, 2015, 07:32:59 PM »

If the NOT RECORDING overlay sign stays on while recording then that's gotta be a bug. I notice that myself a few occasions as well and usually a reboot will fix it.

You mean you tried my configs with your ML copy or with my copy?

Maybe just either reset ML settings to default or erase ML contents on your card then copy latest nightly build and retry again with try enabling one module or settings at a time within ML in order to determine the so called "bug" you may be encountering?

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #577 on:** July 05, 2015, 07:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Licaon_Kter on July 05, 2015, 12:25:32 PM

Those SETTINGS are text files, just diff them.

What exactly do you mean by this?

Walter Schulz · « **Reply #578 on:** July 05, 2015, 08:16:06 PM »

Any tool able to compare 2 files will give you all difference.

Licaon_Kter · « **Reply #579 on:** July 05, 2015, 08:19:50 PM »

Using *nix ( Linux, Mac ) that's: lmgtfy.com/?q=diff

Or GUI tools like meld, Kdiff3, Winmerge, Totalcommander has a compare function, etc

Markus · « **Reply #580 on:** July 06, 2015, 05:09:57 AM »

How about your canon settings?
Manual mode?
Photo settings to maximise buffer. Sjpg or raw only setting?
Auto wb off?
Nr reduction off?
Highlight priority off?
Maybe there are some more I can't remember right now that are important to set right.

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #581 on:** July 06, 2015, 05:37:46 AM »

@Markus:

Asking me or @pholler?

Quote from: Walter Schulz on July 05, 2015, 08:16:06 PM

Any tool able to compare 2 files will give you all difference.

Gotcha makes sense thanks!

Quote from: Licaon_Kter on July 05, 2015, 08:19:50 PM

Using *nix ( Linux, Mac ) that's: lmgtfy.com/?q=diff

Or GUI tools like meld, Kdiff3, Winmerge, Totalcommander has a compare function, etc

Thanks and will definitely look into it.

pholler · « **Reply #582 on:** July 06, 2015, 04:56:43 PM »

@DeafEyeJedi:
I copied all your files including settings, the FIR-File and all the modules to my SD-card. I noticed that you deactivated mlv-recording so i activated the following modules: mlv_rev, mlv_snd and mlv_play.
I then started recording and it looked good. I made a 6 minute test-video.

After that i activated focus peaking --> bad frames

In one other test i restored ML-defaults but after activating all necessary modules (mlv, full-raw-histo, raw-zebras, level) i got bad frames again :-(

@Markus:
Here are my Canon settings:
M-Mode, 1/50s, WB shade, normally sJPEG S3 (but also tried RAW; didn't make a difference), all NR-settings off, Hightlight-Prio off, Adobe RGB, no HDR-mode, Expo simulation on in LV-settings, some custom controls
I tried different lenses and different CF-cards. Even with a different 5D3 on firmware 1.2.3 (couldn't downgrade it to 1.1.3).
For me right now i have no clue how anybody could get good video from 5D3-ML. With my good old 5D2 i never had issues like that.

My best guess is that it's cpu-overload that leads to these issues cause the amount of bad frames seems to correlate with the amount of cpu-intensive modules i use (histo, peaking, zebras).
Can anyone try exactly my settings by copying the settings-folder provided in this post on a 5D3 with 1.1.3: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=5473.msg150697#msg150697

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #583 on:** July 06, 2015, 06:08:55 PM »

@Pholler:

Okay I find that odd that you found my settings within the modules being deactivated when I just shot MLV recordings right before copying/uploading my settings for you online.

Anyway, I'll download your settings folder and paste it into my SD card to test with my 5D3 and report back ASAP.

*Edit*

Here's my first take at your settings without Focus Peak:

Here's the 2nd take with Focus Peak:

In case you were curious, here are my settings within Canon menu for comparisons:

Let me know if you need anymore help... I'm just as eager to get your 5D3 back on track with no problems -- otherwise I would be just as furious!!!

pholler · « **Reply #584 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:07:13 PM »

Thanx a lot DeafEyeJedi! Did you look at the footage after recording with MLRawViewer? Does it contain bad frames?
If this works fine with your Cam than it is either a hardware failure or my Canon settings. I am going to check them with yours now...

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #585 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:11:42 PM »

Will do that & report back after I take my cat to the vet.

pholler · « **Reply #586 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:18:11 PM »

Hope your cat is getting better!

OK, i got skipped frames with your Canon-settings :-(
There must be a hardware issue...

I tried the mlv-option "Debug Trace". It might give ma a clue. Does anyone know where the log is being saved? I couldn't find it on the cards.

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #587 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:44:54 AM »

Cat's doing swell. Thanks. What's your current shutter count on the 5D3?

Also ran MLRV with one of files that I recorded under your ML settings and noticed one strange corrupted frame but that was it out of the whole clip.

I looked at the time code and it was around the exact same moment when I was fiddling with the ML menu while recording MLV so that could be the reason?

pholler · « **Reply #588 on:** July 07, 2015, 06:10:53 PM »

Hmm, so you also do get bad frames. Could you try it again without pressing buttons in the ML menu.

If you too get bad frames that rules out a hardware issue with my equipment.

itsDPmikey · « **Reply #589 on:** July 15, 2015, 11:15:30 PM »

just saw my videos I took on a trip to Lake Tahoe. I was so pissed off to find so many pink glitchy frames.

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #590 on:** July 15, 2015, 11:17:12 PM »

@itsDPmikey:

Damnnn... from which ML nightly build did you use?

@pholler:

Sorry been out and about with work and haven't had the time to play with 5D3 until now. Will get back to you asap!

hingane · « **Reply #591 on:** July 16, 2015, 08:55:29 PM »

Hello from Finland

I have been following this threat so i would like to get involved and help in anyway i can. I film commercial videos so at the moment i have to film at least 3 times the same scene just to be sure that i have a good clip

I have had this issue for about 6 months now, so couple weeks ago i updated to Nightly.2015Jun09.5D3113 and still i have corrupted frames.

1. First i used Komputerbay 64GB x1000 (corrupted frames in every 6 clip)
2. Then i formatted the card and used exFat (corrupted frames in every 6 clip)
3. I bought SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB 160MB/s and formatted it to exFat, still corrupted frames in every 6 clip

I use focus peaks, so next time i film ill turn them off and see if i still get corrupted frames if that doesnt help ill try lower resolution.

Markus · « **Reply #592 on:** July 16, 2015, 10:45:36 PM »

@hingane:
1000x are not recommended for reliable results recording full hd mlv. Offcurse it's not certain that this is the issue but you should try 1066x cards and see if the problem persists.
Your sandisk is also a 1000x card even though they brag about 160mb/sek speeds.

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #593 on:** July 16, 2015, 11:02:24 PM »

As stated previously -- 1066x seems to be the 'sweet spot' for 5D3's...

acewinch · « **Reply #594 on:** July 17, 2015, 04:28:58 PM »

On the latest nightly build for 1.23 on my Mark III, my camera will periodically turn off live view while recording which stops recording and re-opens live view. This happens almost every 5 minutes and is not specific to any buttons being pressed. Ive reset ML to the original settings, uninstalled and reinstalled and it still happens.

Anyone know what this could be?

Markus · « **Reply #595 on:** July 17, 2015, 06:03:40 PM »

Check power save settings in canon menu.

itsDPmikey · « **Reply #596 on:** July 18, 2015, 05:31:39 AM »

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 15, 2015, 11:17:12 PM

@itsDPmikey:

Damnnn... from which ML nightly build did you use?

@pholler:

Sorry been out and about with work and haven't had the time to play with 5D3 until now. Will get back to you asap!

latest 1.1.3 July 1st

DeafEyeJedi · « **Reply #597 on:** July 18, 2015, 05:51:28 AM »

Quote from: itsDPmikey on July 18, 2015, 05:31:39 AM

latest 1.1.3 July 1st

and which cards did you use? Did you have GD on with Focus Peak or anything else in that matter while recording?

hingane · « **Reply #598 on:** July 18, 2015, 09:24:12 PM »

Quote from: Markus on July 16, 2015, 10:45:36 PM

@hingane:
1000x are not recommended for reliable results recording full hd mlv. Offcurse it's not certain that this is the issue but you should try 1066x cards and see if the problem persists.
Your sandisk is also a 1000x card even though they brag about 160mb/sek speeds.

Quote from: DeafEyeJedi on July 16, 2015, 11:02:24 PM

As stated previously -- 1066x seems to be the 'sweet spot' for 5D3's...

Thanks guys, didnt notice that!!

I bought komputerbay 64GB 1066x (on friday) so hopefully ill get them next week. I'll try lower resolution (1856x1044 -> and lower if needed) just to be sure. I'll post my results, maybe they will help somebody.

hingane · « **Reply #599 on:** July 26, 2015, 05:44:49 PM »

Hello

Now i have tried 1066x and here is my conclusion

Nightly.2015Jun09.5D3113
25fps (davinci resolver says 24fps, dunno why...)

Komputerbay 64GB 1000x - exFat
1. resolution 1920x1080 - focuspeaking ON -> bad frames
2. resolution 1856x1044 - focuspeaking ON -> bad frames (2/33)

SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB 160MB/s - exFat
1. resolution 1920x1080 - focuspeaking ON -> bad frames
3. resolution 1856x1044 - focuspeaking ON -> bad frames (6/24)

Komputerbay 64GB 1066x - exFat
1. resolution 1920x1080 - focuspeaking ON -> bad frames
2. resolution 1856x1044 - focuspeaking ON -> OK
3. resolution 1920x1080 - focuspeaking OFF -> OK

Next ill try Nightly.2015Jul02.5D3113 and extra monitor that has focus peaking

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Author Topic: Uncompressed 14-bit RAW video testing - 5D Mark III (Read 788055 times)